To think that Rachel Reeves really ought to practice what she preaches?

I like Reeves a lot & don't see her as only negative about UK prospects. I see her as being honest about a challenging situation. The media will have quoted her selectively, too, because they can't quote every nuance, the previous speeches will also have had very positive narrative about Britain having the resilience to overcome challenges.

The Times has come under considerable scrutiny recently for a seeming policy of publishing articles with Clickbait headlines , normally a DM/ Telegraph ploy, where the substance of the headline can only generally be found in the final paragraphs . Usually the headline finds only a glancing match to the content or actuality. They started this game during Covid and it has accelerated under new leadership. The headlines are rarely written by the journalist.

As others have said, what she actually said about Trump was diplomatically brief.

and replace with the bastards who made the mess in the first place or the bastards who want to degrade womwns rights and deport immigrants who do the shitty jobs we cant be bothered to do..

That might well be true but accusing RR of being a Trump supporter on the basis of her saying we should adopt some of his positivity about his own country is a bit if a stretch.
I am no Rachel Reeves (or Labour) fan but this is just silly.
As is the Rachel from Accounts moniker, which was slightly amusing the first time I heard it but just tired now. Not misogynistic though - politicians both male and female and left and right have always been called names.

and replace with......the bastards who made this mess or the bastards who want to take away women's rights and deport all the immigrants who do the shitty jobs we cant be bothered to do...

Lol! Btw I think the gloomy messaging and NICs increase were mistakes but she can hopefully fix them and it sounds like she is trying to do that. To agree with a past poster, call out her mistakes by all means PLEASE stop calling her ‘Rachel from accounts’!! Did we give Kwasi after mini budget or George O after pasty tax a patronising nickname! I didn’t think so! And even if she did work in accounts it’s more real-world financial experience than those two ever had!

38% of the population wants this government out ASAP (which is more than the % of pop that put them in power) and here on MN it’s called being a bot.

Is that you, Rachel?

If you go on about ‘bots’ Mnhq will delete, suspend or maybe ban. So feel free and see what they do

Yanbu but she’s peddling hard

Stalling growth is her budget and each week it’s the attempt for a new headline about growth, whether it’s China or blaming others

She hasn’t “tanked the economy” regardless of how many times you say it.

Please can we stop calling her fucking Rachel from Accounts on a forum full of women. It is unimaginably misogynistic.

OMG she did not stumble into the job by accident, she is highly accomplished and respected by politicians on either side of the House. She has been handed a binfire. Step 1 was putting it out. Step 2 building back

I will debate with anyone, regardless of their opinions and have done so extensively.
I am very pro free speech and would never try to silence anyone.
However I draw the line at posters who evidently can't debate without resorting to name calling, which you did in your very first post on this thread.
I believe MN regard the never-ending accusations of Tory Bot as trollhunting, which is why I reported it.
You could never silence the left -wing 'dissenters' on MN, believe me 😁

You clearly have lost your sense of humour and cannot recognise a tongue in cheek comment.

Plus, the Orange Cheeto himself said on day one he would get the price of eggs down, along side ending the Ukrainian war of course. Both of which he didn't do on day one.

I can't believe you actually thought I was serious, that's fucking hilarious! 🤣 brightened my Sunday morning right up 😂😂😂

Yes, I think she’s right for saying we can learn from his positivity and purpose… that’s VERY different from saying that she
agrees with the substance of what he’s saying.

i don’t think she’s hypocritical if she then is more positive. The problem is her credibility is shot, so will it have any impact or be believable, or will it just come across
as contrived and desperate. I want the UK to succeed, so given that she’s not going anyway it seems, then I hope she does change tone and somehow is able to be convincing.

RR (definitely not rolls royce) is about to realise ... all her tax and NI changes aren't going to work. She's a failure.

Trump, not Trunk!

Trunk has been in office for 4 days. Love him or loathe him, the idea that he’s a failure because he hasn’t already reduced the price of eggs is ridiculous! Many of the eggs in shops will have been put on the shelves when Biden was president a few short days ago!

im not saying this because I like Trump - I don’t - just that your post is ridiculous.

Wee Rach ain’t a clue about anything. She faked her CV for Christ sake. She doesn’t know what she’s on about.

again. Absolute deflection

how has the party who has been in for the last 4% of the time since 2010 to blame for the current state of affairs?

when the tories came in in 2010 they introduced austerity, stated no magic money tree, biscuit tin is empty. And cut so much back which hit women, the disabled and the poor disproportionately.

then came Brexit, and Covid, and the truss economy crash.

but it’s labours fault. Sure

bht continue to deflect …. Clearly you have no response.

and report me again if you want - easier to silence people than to debate isn’t it?

While I haven’t been wild about her budget I did hear her speech at the Labour conference on the radio and she was extremely upbeat about how great the UK was. It was a very positive and enthusiastic view - not at all doom and gloom. Belief in the country etc. I like the UK personally so I liked the speech.

Her comments more recently are consistent with that. They do not directly translate as “I ❤️ Trump.”

I won't engage with anyone who just shouts Tory Bot when they hear something they don't agree with. It makes me think they have nothing original to say and it looks like I am right

OMG you actually did report me and get me deleted for having a different opinion to you!!

FFS. The extreme right really is trying to silence the dissenters!

Well yes I’m going to blame the party that has been in power for 96% of the time since 2010

or do you think that all our woes have just arisen since Labour got in 6months ago??

i really don’t believe that you believe that. As one would have to be profoundly stupid to think that.

own the shit the tories have created and recognise it is going to take years for this country to recover.