Holidays - grumpy husband.

Go on your holiday and get rid of the miserable bastard for good. He sounds enchanting.

You and your daughter go and leave him at home.

I’m taking my son here later this year. Dubrovnik airport only a 30’min transfer. it’s my favourite country. An hour away from Bosnia, 30 mins from Montenegro (also stunning countries I’ve visited). There’s a cable car, zip line, quad bikes, sea kayaking, boat trips, visit the old walled city. This hotel is a short public bus ride away from the old town.

www.jet2holidays.com/beach/croatia/dubrovnik-coast/dubrovnik-babin-kuk/sunny-dubrovnik-by-valamar?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADmgmx_w2_Zj5bWPIr5P8IFJ14oUb&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqaOn5PqRiwMV8IdQBh2YRi5rEAAYASAAEgJCCvD_BwE

If your looking for a package beach holiday turkey has long transfers in most resorts.

have you thought about Croatia? Beutiful country. Teen friendly.

God he sounds like a right mood hoover that will never be happy.
Go somewhere lovely with your dd.

Why do you come home from the pub crying?

To the OP, if you are keen on Italy by train please look at Seat61.com. The man in seat 61 (his favourite spot on Eurostar) is a great resource. You can search from UK to Italy or inside one country anywhere in the world. Gives step by step info, prices, photos, tips great for planning and daydreaming. Good luck.

I've spent the last 10 years holidaying with the DDs but without DH. Started when they were 11 and 14. Up til then we'd only done UK breaks and when I wanted to then go abroad he didn't. But told me that shouldn't stop me doing it if I wanted to. So we did. We started 'easy' with the Eurostar to Disneyland Paris. Then the next year flew abroad and have done so every year since.

DD1 has now joined DH in not wanting to go away - doesn't think it's worth the cost and fuss, and doesn't cope well in the heat. But DD2 (now 20) is still v keen to go away with me and keep exploring places we haven't been to.

We've done Athens, Menorca, Salou, Majorca, Lanzarote, Tenerife, Malta and should have gone to Sorrento until Covid cancelled it.

😢 That's so sad. Just do your own thing, there's no law says you have to go on the same holiday.

Turkey is not like that whatsoever. It’s completely different to what it was 15 years ago and has some of the best service I’ve ever encountered

I'd definitely go away with your dd.

And why not ask your h to book your holiday next year himself? Then he might appreciate the hours that go into finding a nice holiday in the right place to suit everyone!

We did it using Milan as a base then just did day trips mainly because I cannot travel light and I would have got very stressed lugging cases off and on trains! The trains you just book on Trainline, it’s incredibly easy. If you wanted to move around, I would book the hotels then book the trains.

Is he grumpy regardless of holiday type? I think he is going by your description of a UK holiday. Tell him you want different holidays to him, that he’s inevitably grumpy and it ruins holidays and limits what you can do. Go enjoy yourself, your dd might not have many more years left of wanting to go with you, make the most of it now!

How do you book all this and where do you stay? I'm feeling overwhelmed just reading all those stops, though I'd love to try and do it. I would need two bedrooms as well as I can't do a triple, I'm too old to share with the kids! But it sounds fantastic. Did you just turn up, or book beforehand?

Feel your pain. It's very hard to find holidays that suit all members of the family. My DH was a moaner/kill joy too. He may well enjoy a week at home on his own anyway, plus if you go with DD, could you have a long weekend city break with him another time?
I've travelled in trains in Italy many times - cheap, clean and reliable. You can easily do a loop around the north and see the main cities - Pisa, Florence, Siena, Genoa, Milan, Verona and Venice. If you want beach/sea try Camogli (accessible from Genoa or Milan airports then train) and from there you can get train down to the Cinque Terre villages on day trips.

Me too! I don't wear a wedding ring these days and I think they think I'm a rich divorcee! LOL!

Oh just go!! You won't look back. It's so lovely. The peace, the calmness, the freedom!! We have some 'tisms also! DH also a workaholic and gets stressed. Not happy once he's back due to the pile up of work but realises he has to decompress or he'll burn out.

But nothing is ever right and there's a lot of complaining. He wants a gym with plenty of equipment, a place to cycle, perfect food, the right bed, a swimming pool, but not too much sun, perfect wifi, hot but not too hot, not too far etc, good choice of restaurants but also likes to cook but wants a hotel with facilities but lots of space for the family....

It's so daunting booking a holiday every year. He has no time to do it so I have to do it instead but then it's all on me if it's not quite top notch and of course it's got to be done for not too much money!! Urgh. Impossible!!

He'll then compare it to previous hoilday and go through why those were better but he wasn't 100% happy on any of those either! I can never win!!

You are definitely not alone in this, I do it and know others that do too so is wouldn't worry about that at all. I get some surprised comments at times as the assumption is that I'm a single parent when actually it's just that I'm solo parenting on a week in the sun with DC and left DH at home.