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To not want to leave children with DH because it creates work for me?

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butterfliesandbugs · 25/01/2025 14:53

I know I’m going to get a bit of an online flaming for this but I’m genuinely wondering how many of us are in the same position.

Our children are four and one (two in may.) And I need a break from them but I never get one because I just don’t like leaving them with DH. I do love him and he loves the children but he just can’t seem to plan ahead for when he has them and it creates work for me.

So some examples are

Not giving DS anything to eat and then when DS was hungry let him eat an entire pack of blueberries and then he had loose poos the next day and was sent home from preschool.

Not offering them drinks - this is a biggie as DS doesn’t drink enough as it is.

If I go out and they are in the house I come back and it honestly looks like it’s been ransacked .

Driving somewhere that’s a fair trek mid to late afternoon so someone falls asleep and is then up till gone ten.

Not changing DDs nappy when it’s wet (only dirty)

I know people will claim it’s weaponised incompetent and it honestly isn’t. Just incompetence. And I know one of the issues is he isn’t used to having them but I frankly CBA with the fallout for when he does!

OP posts:
butterfliesandbugs · 25/01/2025 17:28

crumblingschools · 25/01/2025 17:22

So if he had taken them today in the car and they fell asleep, then let him do bed time and the putting back to bed etc. To be fair this is a risk you take if you go out in a car with young children, but you can't let that mean you never go anywhere

We go to plenty of places, just … not at 430 in the evening!

So I knew I’d be held responsible and I am not disappointed. I think the thing is that it’s impossible in most average family homes to be oblivious to preschoolers running around no matter how much you might want to. (And they seek me out anyway.)

I am resigned to it by now. DHs dad is the same, just hyper focused on one thing and everything else ceases to exist.

OP posts:
Pickled21 · 25/01/2025 17:28

I couldn't be with someone like this but I believe a partner should be exactly that. It's up to you to decide the standards you want to live by. You seem to think that the resentment will lessen as the kids get older because it will get easier. As they grown there are less physical demands on you so eventually they won't need your help to go to the loo but there will still be the mental load. The mental demands on you will not change, as they get bigger it's more geared to wards play dates, afterschool avtivities, hobbies, friend's parties, exam revision etc.

Do not have further children with him. I would have a sit down discussion with him and try to understand exactly why he thinks it is OK to leave a baby in a wet nappy or not offer a child a drink. Tbh I'd have gone apeshit as it's just so unacceptable.

You aren't breaking the cycle though are you? This is what your children will learn,that it's mum's job to manage everything. You won't get any thanks for being a martyr.

user1471538283 · 25/01/2025 17:26

This is neglect. I would tell him this straight. Anyone let alone a parent knows that babies need to be changed regularly. All children need to be fed properly and given drinks. It's also cruel. How would he feel if he was denied the basics. He needs to parent. Or he can leave.

Some of my best memories was doing very ordinary things with my DF. He would make lovely meals, play with me and still do the stuff that every parent does.

One day if this carries on he will bleat about how he doesn't have a relationship with his children.

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 17:25

Some men are useless in purpose so you don’t ask them

keep trying. Wrote a list is need be

12 lunch and drink
1/3 nap
3 wake up and change nappy
330 park - games inside etx
5 tea

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 17:23

butterfliesandbugs · 25/01/2025 15:23

I’m pretty much resigned to this being how it is. It does make me a bit resentful but it’s getting easier and will get easier still as they get older. Like now he’s got to go to the city to collect something and he offered to take them but they’d probably fall asleep so I’ve had to say no. But it leaves me with them and this sort of thing happens a lot but hard to argue with because he’ll say ‘well I offered to take them to X to give you a break!’

Can you go to the city instead and he has the kids

crumblingschools · 25/01/2025 17:22

So if he had taken them today in the car and they fell asleep, then let him do bed time and the putting back to bed etc. To be fair this is a risk you take if you go out in a car with young children, but you can't let that mean you never go anywhere

Corinthiana · 25/01/2025 17:20

PitchOver · 25/01/2025 17:15

No I wouldn't be leaving the children with him even more so that 'he'll learn' because he won't and then they will suffer for it.

Problem is, if you leave him then he gets unsupervised access to them.

Maybe a threat that you will report him to social services if he doesn't step up and start providing basic levels of care for his children might do the trick.

I honestly think that a lot of men just walk around with their head up their arse most of the time. Oblivious to anything that doesn't directly affect them.

Saying oh but he has a professional job therefore he must know how to parent is comparing apples with oranges imo. I don't agree that he's necessarily doing it on purpose but that's irrelevant. Deliberate or not it shouldn't be happening.

This ⬆️

CurlewKate · 25/01/2025 17:20

I've said it before and I'll say it again-only form adult relationships with adults.

Trashpalace · 25/01/2025 17:19

Rawnotblended · 25/01/2025 17:10

I think we know the answer to that.

Mine is a company director of a company you’d have heard of. Remarkable how he holds it together, isn’t it?

Well exactly!

If he can manage a job but not meeting basic needs of his children then it is not due to incompetence in the usual sense of the word.

Corinthiana · 25/01/2025 17:19

Yetanotherthrowaway · 25/01/2025 15:33

Honestly, this sort of stuff makes me so furious - what an unbelievably cruel person to leave their child in dirty nappies and not provide water, a basic fucking minimum. God gorbid he should be in charge of a dog. It’s either weaponised incompetence (although you say not) or he is not capable of normal function. I simply do not believe that any wel-meaning human can’t fathom that a child needs these things, never mind one who’s been a parent for several,years.

Absolutely. How the OP finds this excusable is extraordinary.

WellsAndThistles · 25/01/2025 17:18

Your DH shouldn't need your permission to take his own kids out. Stop being alpha parent, let him figure out parenting.

PitchOver · 25/01/2025 17:15

No I wouldn't be leaving the children with him even more so that 'he'll learn' because he won't and then they will suffer for it.

Problem is, if you leave him then he gets unsupervised access to them.

Maybe a threat that you will report him to social services if he doesn't step up and start providing basic levels of care for his children might do the trick.

I honestly think that a lot of men just walk around with their head up their arse most of the time. Oblivious to anything that doesn't directly affect them.

Saying oh but he has a professional job therefore he must know how to parent is comparing apples with oranges imo. I don't agree that he's necessarily doing it on purpose but that's irrelevant. Deliberate or not it shouldn't be happening.

queenMab99 · 25/01/2025 17:11

Not feeding them properly, not giving a drink or changing a wet nappy is cruel to the child, who is not old enough to complain. He is a horrible father, he is negligent and causing them harm! He really needs to deal with this, what happens if you need to go into hospital or something? Have you explained to him properly? He needs to sort himself out and become a reliable parent. The absolute basics of looking after small children is everyone fed and nobody dead, it is hard looking after 2 little ones but surely he can manage to do it for a day every so often, without one of them ending up with nappy rash or dehydration!

Rawnotblended · 25/01/2025 17:10

Trashpalace · 25/01/2025 17:07

Does he manage to hold down a job?

Or does he keep getting sacked for forgetting to do basic tasks at work? If not, how does he manage to remember to do essential tasks at work?

I think we know the answer to that.

Mine is a company director of a company you’d have heard of. Remarkable how he holds it together, isn’t it?

LostittoBostik · 25/01/2025 17:10

TomatoSandwiches · 25/01/2025 15:47

Go away for 3 months or 6 and he'll learn.

Yeah sure. Any mother here would go off for 3 months leaving their one year old with a father they literally don't trust to look after their kids safely for 12 hours.

If you can't actually help, maybe don't post?

Whachamacallit · 25/01/2025 17:10

Solidarity @butterfliesandbugs The dc were the only issue that dh and I ever argued about. He was a bit less useless than yours (he changed nappies) and did at least not repeat some of his mistakes (to avoid another roasting) but it was just infuriating. I think it boiled down to not being able to prioritise them.

As the dc got older, it got better. I think they have actively benefitted from our different styles and approaches. He’s been much more capable through the school age and into the teen years. Although he still seems incapable of grasping the concept of providing regular timely meals or that McDonalds for every meal is not ok. He’s not great at feeding himself properly either.

He’s brilliant in other ways - quick to pitch in with housework, generous to a fault, a great provider, and he loves spending time as a family. He actively encouraged me to take breaks, giving me gifts of spa breaks, etc so I don’t really understand the blind spot - as you said not weaponised incompetence but actual incompetence.

For me the solution was longer breaks because he recruited help (even if the price was mil clucking about poor dh being expected to do everything) or suggesting boundaried activities (eg take them to the zoo at this time, and to the cafe there, and bring them home by this time) but that can take too much mental effort when you actually need a break

ScaredOfDinosaurs · 25/01/2025 17:09

You've already capitulated by doing it all.

STOP. You're the only one that can make this change. Find your voice.

LostittoBostik · 25/01/2025 17:08

Out of interest, what does he do for a job?

Trashpalace · 25/01/2025 17:07

Does he manage to hold down a job?

Or does he keep getting sacked for forgetting to do basic tasks at work? If not, how does he manage to remember to do essential tasks at work?

Rawnotblended · 25/01/2025 17:07

its also gross misogyny. My ex thought that his parental input should not be extended past making sure the kids didn’t catch fire.

outerspacepotato · 25/01/2025 17:05

I can see why you don't want to leave your children with a negligent parent who won't do the most essential parenting tasks like giving food and water and changing a soiled diaper.

I would never stay with someone who is criminally neglecting their children. He doesn't love them. Child neglect is not love. It's endangering them.

Fencehedge · 25/01/2025 17:03

It's neglect. It's not shit parenting or incompetence, it's neglect.

SalmonEile · 25/01/2025 17:03

I think he needs to be more involved in day to day life then,
Its frustrating to have to micromanage a grown adult and tell them how to parent but it’s what needs to be done -
“Ok so DDs nappy needs changing and DS needs lunch - which will you sort and I’ll do the other” and repeat
it’s not easy but might help

Rawnotblended · 25/01/2025 17:03

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/01/2025 16:59

Does he see them and has he bucked his ideas up if so?

He sees them if I deliver them to him, so now it’s just for extended visits in school holidays. Did he buck his ideas up? No. Far from it. If anything, in order to prove that it wasn’t his job to do wife work and if I didn’t like it then I should do it myself, he got worse.

He’s still a dickhead now. But not my problem.

Snorlaxo · 25/01/2025 17:01

When things go wrong, who is inconvenienced? Does he try and make ds sleep after allowing a nap? Does he have to leave work and pick up ds from preschool because of the blueberries ? Parents sometimes learn from our mistakes (we’ve all made the car journey at 4pm one!) and make a note not to repeat it.

What would your h say about his parenting ? Does he agree that he’s made lots of big mistakes like not feeding lunch or would he say that he is a great parent but ends up clashing with you because you are too rigid ?

Some of your list are more serious than others. Even a childless person would know to offer food and drink every time they felt hunger and thirst themselves. If he genuinely never feels hunger or thirst then setting alarms every 2-3 hours would be an obvious way to deal with his inability to look at the time and think it’s time for lunch or whatever.

Despite what you think, your post screams weaponized incompetence. I suspect he’s happy with the current status quo when the longer you live like this, the worse it becomes and you end up having to wait until ds is old enough to make lunch and offer drinks to dd too.

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