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to say that I won't do two 60 minute round trips so she can see her friend?

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letsi · 25/01/2025 11:23

my 12 year old wants to see her friend who lives half an hour away. (friend moved house)
She wants to stay for the day and me to pick her up late evening. Her friends parents don't drive. This would mean doing two 60 minute round trips. I've asked her to see if she can hang out with a local friend this weekend. Am I being mean? I wouldn't mind so much if she'd do a sleepover so I didn't have to do two trips but friend can't do a sleepover and dd hates them.
Would you do this driving?
End of month and can't afford the diesel either!

OP posts:
Setyoufree · 25/01/2025 12:25

Is the cost actually the issue? Most of your post is about that time rather than the cost. If you genuinely can't afford it then YANBU but if you just can't be bothered, I'd say pretty unreasonable. Friendships are important

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 25/01/2025 12:25

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:22

i know that cos I put her postcode into google
maps
and checked!

Jesus. Never in a million years would my mum have faffed about on my behalf like this. If I wanted to see my friends, I had to make the plan and work out my transport options. A lift to the bus stop or train station was as far as my mum was involved.

Iamoldandwearpurple · 25/01/2025 12:25

If it is just the drive and she isnt asking every week then yabu. She is 12. It's her friend, don't be so mean.

If it is genuinely the cost then that's a different issue and you would not be unreasonable to explain that there isn't money for fuel until after payday and honor to do the run another weekend and budget for it.

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:25

SALaw · 25/01/2025 12:22

You've majored on the time issue and then thrown in the cost issue at the end. The time issue you are being unreasonable and mean about. The cost issue, which I'm not sure is the actual reason, is fine if it's true. If the bus or train are more affordable I'd take her on them.

Ha! You caught me! Admittedly it's a bit mean but I'm absolutely conscious of there being too much month left at the end of the money too! 🤣

OP posts:
stichguru · 25/01/2025 12:24

I'm glad you've made this work. If you are reluctant to drive though, I do think you need to think about DD using public transport more. I know kids who take the train to school from just turned 11.

MintTwirl · 25/01/2025 12:24

I think 30 mins each way is fine but obviously if you can’t afford it then that’s that really. Glad to see it’s resolved anyway.

I get why you nights not use public transport for this for a 12 year old. As a bus user(I don’t drive), a bus journey can take 2 or 3 times longer than a drive door to door plus possibly having to change bus if no direct route and relying on the bus actually turning up. It’s very different for a 12 year old to do that alone on an unfamiliar route compared to getting a bus home from school along with others or getting into a familiar town with friends.

SALaw · 25/01/2025 12:23

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:10

the station isn't walkable from the area her friend lives in. She does get trains with her fiends but has never gone on one alone. She would
happily do this, so that's a me problem not a dd problem.

You said when she's older she can get the train so it must be possible?!

RedSkyDelights · 25/01/2025 12:23

GRex · 25/01/2025 12:18

How do the girl's parents live somewhere that has no walking route to public transport if they don't drive? Is this perhaps just your version of walkable, because you can't imagine a 15 min walk?

OP's earlier post says that the girls could meet half way on the train when they are older, so I'm not sure how OP thinks that would be possible if friend's house is not walkable to the train station.

Although later post suggests that it's not distance that's the factor, but OP's perception of what she's happy for her daughter to do.

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:22

i know that cos I put her postcode into google
maps
and checked!

OP posts:
SALaw · 25/01/2025 12:22

You've majored on the time issue and then thrown in the cost issue at the end. The time issue you are being unreasonable and mean about. The cost issue, which I'm not sure is the actual reason, is fine if it's true. If the bus or train are more affordable I'd take her on them.

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:21

the walk from station to their house takes an hour and fifteen minutes. I don't know about buses from their house to the station

OP posts:
Mumwithbaggage · 25/01/2025 12:20

We live in the middle of nowhere and so did all of the dc's friends when they were young so it's part of the routine in the countryside. If it's the cost, then nothing you can do about it unfortunately.

stichguru · 25/01/2025 12:19

I wouldn't drop all and do it now, but I'd definately say we could plan a trip. I guess it depends what you do though? I mean to me it would be daughter's choice of a day out. Like do you ever take her to do anything by car? I mean if at the moment work and school are the only things you drive to, fair enough, but if you'd spend money on petrol to go to another family activity, then you could do this. Would meeting somewhere that friend and mum would be able to get to on the bus be possible?

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 25/01/2025 12:18

I'd do it but could afford the fuel. I also quite like half an hour to myself in the car with a podcast.

GRex · 25/01/2025 12:18

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:10

the station isn't walkable from the area her friend lives in. She does get trains with her fiends but has never gone on one alone. She would
happily do this, so that's a me problem not a dd problem.

How do the girl's parents live somewhere that has no walking route to public transport if they don't drive? Is this perhaps just your version of walkable, because you can't imagine a 15 min walk?

biscuitsandbooks · 25/01/2025 12:18

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:10

the station isn't walkable from the area her friend lives in. She does get trains with her fiends but has never gone on one alone. She would
happily do this, so that's a me problem not a dd problem.

Isn't this the ideal time to work on that then?

Maybe not today, but get her to catch the train alone and meet you somewhere perhaps, or she could get a train to meet a friend?

summer3219 · 25/01/2025 12:17

I do this a number of times a week just to get my DC to their part time job as we live rurally. I don't consider that a long drive. However, if you can't afford it then you can't afford it.

Completelyjo · 25/01/2025 12:17

Drooping off half an hour away is hardly the other side of the world. I would do it for mine and my parents always would have done it for us when we were kids.

GRex · 25/01/2025 12:16

If you can't afford the fuel then you could have invited the other girl over, or sent her on the bus/ train. It's sad to read how some parents really don't care about their kids' friendships; friendship is so important to children for their self-esteem, growing social skills and happiness, I'm confused why that wouldn't matter to their parent.

soupyspoon · 25/01/2025 12:16

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:10

the station isn't walkable from the area her friend lives in. She does get trains with her fiends but has never gone on one alone. She would
happily do this, so that's a me problem not a dd problem.

In what way is it not walkable, how far?

No bus?

At 12 I was popping into town, local shops etc with friends

user1492757084 · 25/01/2025 12:15

That was fortunate this time.
Great!

I would limit the number of times I'd drive DD in future though..
I would encourage her to make play dates with other friends closer as they are likely to be more sustainable.

TheChosenTwo · 25/01/2025 12:14

I used to do this frequently, dds boyfriend lived about half an hour away so I would drop her and bring her home later. Also used to pick him up and bring him here if those were the plans. Obviously they used to both ask if I was free to do this and sometimes I wasn’t so it was tough crap on them! His mum never drove him anywhere (not my business, never asked why or why not) and buses were infrequent for the route they’d have had to have taken to get to his although they did occasionally do this if dh or I weren’t around.
Dd can drive herself now so my days of taxiing are over but I didn’t really mind it tbh.
However if you can’t afford the fuel then it’s just a straightforward “no, sorry but finances are stretched already and I can’t afford the petrol in the car this month”.

Pomsy · 25/01/2025 12:13

letsi · 25/01/2025 12:10

the station isn't walkable from the area her friend lives in. She does get trains with her fiends but has never gone on one alone. She would
happily do this, so that's a me problem not a dd problem.

Now is the time to work on that. It is a bit scary as a parent the first time you let them do it, but it’s the first steps to letting her become more independent and building resilience.
My DD is 15 now but has been getting the train by herself since she was your daughters age.

DragonFly98 · 25/01/2025 12:11

letsi · 25/01/2025 11:29

yep, that wouldn't work either, guess I'm thinking ahead to the future if she sees her friend again. I can't afford the diesel. This has been the longest January ever! When they're older they can meet on the train halfway, but she's too young for that.

Why is she to young? A NT 12 year old should be able to catch a train by herself.

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 25/01/2025 12:11

Yes I would. Friendships are so important at that age and 12 is tricky - so dependent still on parents but with such strong emotions and feelings about the things they want to do.

If you absolutely cannot afford it then it’s obviously a no. But that is not really how I read your post as your question was would others do it. Well if you do not have the money at all then it’s not really a question of would you. I interpret it more as you would rather not do it and the cost is also a factor. In those circumstances; yes I definitely would do it.