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No dryer but don't dry indoors

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KarmaKoma · 25/01/2025 08:19

Starting new rental. Agreement says don't dry indoors but landlord doesn't provide a dryer to enable you to meet this. Isn't this a bit ridiculous?

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DelectableMe · 25/01/2025 09:37

NormaleKartoffeln · 25/01/2025 09:27

Where we live that rules out half the year.

Me too - in fact, longer than that where I live. I wouldn't be without a tumble dryer.

NoWordForFluffy · 25/01/2025 09:36

KarmaKoma · 25/01/2025 08:22

That's interesting, I didn't know that. There is a garden and as soon as it warms up I will dry everything outside as personal preference anyway but we are in the north and it is impossible to do this in winter.

Where in the north? We're in the north and dry outside all year.

Not everything can be put into a tumble dryer anyway, so even if you had one you couldn't do everything in it.

I'd get airers and a dehumidifier in your shoes, I think. It should solve any damp issues before they start.

Longhotsummers · 25/01/2025 09:36

So there’s actually no problem after all? You have space for a drier and are supplying the white goods. You could have set up a heated clothes horse with cover in the garage as an alternative. Sounds like another landlord bashing thread to me, especially as it’s a pretty standard clause these days.

DelectableMe · 25/01/2025 09:36

Buy a dryer. Saves hours and a lot of fuss. Game changer. Just buy a condenser one, put it in the garage.

TheMammySheep · 25/01/2025 09:33

TheMammySheep · 25/01/2025 08:21

Are you in a house or flat? If you have no outside space to dry, ie a garden, it's illegal not to provide a dryer

Editing the above. I'm on an island in the UK and it's a legal requirement here. Seems it isn't in the UK Wink

PokerFriedDips · 25/01/2025 09:31

I think if it's already established that providing the laundry related white-goods is up to you then it's clear that providing any tumble drier would equally be up to you not to them.

However - I saw your update saying you could put a tumble drier in the garage and I wonder if it's worth clarifying whether the garage would be excluded from the no-drying-indoors condition because better than a tumble drier is a dry-soon heated airer which is cheaper to run and more effective, but would break the rules in the main house.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 25/01/2025 09:30

TheMammySheep · 25/01/2025 08:21

Are you in a house or flat? If you have no outside space to dry, ie a garden, it's illegal not to provide a dryer

Is it? Where? Would a tenant not provide their own?

purpleme12 · 25/01/2025 09:29

I think all tenancy agreements say it as standard

But I've never had a dryer

So I've always had to dry inside unless it's warmer weather

NormaleKartoffeln · 25/01/2025 09:27

MrsMoastyToasty · 25/01/2025 08:45

If the pavements are dry then it's dry enough to hang out washing. You may not get it totally dry but you will get most of the moisture out (and laundry smells nicer dried outside).

Where we live that rules out half the year.

NormaleKartoffeln · 25/01/2025 09:26

KarmaKoma · 25/01/2025 08:41

@NormaleKartoffeln I expect them not to have a proviso in the contract that says you can't dry indoors if they aren't providing anything to make this possible. I don't mind no dryer, I do mind a contract requirement that they do nothing to make feasible to meet.

Not sure. I'd you're providing you're own washer then I'd assume own drier too.

Cattreesea · 25/01/2025 09:24

What a silly request.

You can't dry clothes outdoors all year around in the UK...

I have a garden and I still need to have a clothes airer inside. Just use something that and make sure that you ventilate and heat the property correctly.

MyPearlCrow · 25/01/2025 09:21

MrsMoastyToasty · 25/01/2025 08:45

If the pavements are dry then it's dry enough to hang out washing. You may not get it totally dry but you will get most of the moisture out (and laundry smells nicer dried outside).

I hate the smell of outside laundry (although I do dry outside in warmer months). It smells weird to me but might be because the washing powder smell has been blown off?

TheMammySheep · 25/01/2025 09:20

@PotaytoPotahhto apologies, I live on an island in the UK and it's a legal requirement here. It doesn't seem to be a legal requirement on the mainland.

MyPearlCrow · 25/01/2025 09:19

is there room to put up an airer in the bathroom? Issue for LL Is damp, but bathrooms are tiled/hard floored and usually have extractors/windows for getting rid of steam/damp.

you need to dry clothes. LL needs to clarify how you can do this in winter without a dryer or the ability to hang clothes out.

im a LL. this is a ridiculous request.

RampantIvy · 25/01/2025 09:19

Whatcanisayexceptyourewelcomeee · 25/01/2025 09:16

Regarding a dryer in the garage, just make sure you don't get a condenser or heat pump and the heat pump won't work as effectively and the water that collects in the condenser drawer can freeze in the winter and cause issues. Vented is best for garages/outbuildings (I work for a white goods manufacturer)

I kept our condenser dryer in the garage for many years. The water will only freeze if you don't empty the tank after use. I empty the tank and clean the filter after every use. Doesn't everyone do this?

RampantIvy · 25/01/2025 09:16

Geneticsbunny · 25/01/2025 09:07

You can dry outside any time of year as long as it isn't raining. Could you put a gazebo up over the washing line?

That is not true.

I can put washing out on any day if isn't raining, but it doesn't always dry because the air is so damp. Humidity outside is currently 78% and washing won't dry in this.

Cosyblankets · 25/01/2025 09:16

TheMammySheep · 25/01/2025 08:21

Are you in a house or flat? If you have no outside space to dry, ie a garden, it's illegal not to provide a dryer

Can you provide a link to this law?

Whatcanisayexceptyourewelcomeee · 25/01/2025 09:16

Regarding a dryer in the garage, just make sure you don't get a condenser or heat pump and the heat pump won't work as effectively and the water that collects in the condenser drawer can freeze in the winter and cause issues. Vented is best for garages/outbuildings (I work for a white goods manufacturer)

Cosyblankets · 25/01/2025 09:14

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/01/2025 08:54

I'm quite northerly (Yorkshire, northern edge) and I dry my washing outside as much as I can because my house is tiny, no drier and nowhere to hang it. I've found that watching the weather forecast like a hawk is key (my washing is going out today, for example), you can get most stuff more or less dry on a washing line, even if it gets occasionally rained on. Particularly if the wind is brisk. I must admit to a heated airer which gets used maybe twice a month, but I try not to get this out as it blocks most of one room and the dog tends to rub herself on it...

Do you work full time away from the house?
It's quite a decent day here in the north West but the chances of that coinciding with people being at home to do the washing in the winter are quite slim.

CatAmongTheSeagulls · 25/01/2025 09:14

It's not 'illegal' for this clause to be in there and they don't need to provide you with the equipment (tumble dryer) to do it.

It's the same logic that they will say you need to keep a garden well maintained but will not provide the lawn mower.

It's likely to be simply a boiler-plate tenancy agreement which the landlord has been advised to use. I would, using a bit of common sense, interpret this as no 'unassisted' drying indoors, ie not just over radiators and building up damp. In the same way as using a tumble dryer is also actually... drying indoors. So, using a clothes horse & dehumidifier would be an acceptable way of going ahead. That is my recommendation.

Since the reason that clause is in there is about damp in the home, if you dry in a way that does not cause damp (eg, dehumidifier), then I'd just do that and not stress remotely.

What you likely shouldn't do is just dry unaided in the home if you can avoid it, both because it does contribute to damp and because it's against the tenancy agreement.

rubiconartist · 25/01/2025 09:13

I really don't see the outrage at not being allowed to dry clothes indoors because of the problems it can cause. You won't want to end up being liable for causing issues in the house.

We've never dried clothes in the house until we got a heated airer and even then we are really careful and use it in a well ventilated room.

The idea that it's a legal requirement to provide a way to dry clothes seems batshit. I'd love to see the legislation.

Whatcanisayexceptyourewelcomeee · 25/01/2025 09:13

The first time I rented (around 4 years ago) the contract stated you can't dry clothes indoors.
Not something I'd usually do, but I ignored it. I also didn't have a dryer and didn't want on due to the cost of electricity. I just got airers and put them upstairs in the warmest area of the house. I just made sure to ventilate every day to ensure it didn't cause mould.
Absolutely no issues the two years I was there.

Geneticsbunny · 25/01/2025 09:07

You can dry outside any time of year as long as it isn't raining. Could you put a gazebo up over the washing line?

Ginmonkeyagain · 25/01/2025 09:07

We live in a flat (owned not rented) that is prone to condensation. We don't have a dryer. We have a large private balcony that we use to dry washing most of the year (tbf we are in London which is drier and warmer on average compared to the rest of the country).

When it is we, we use an airer in the smaller bedroom with an EBACC dehumidifier on laundry setting. It is very effective and we never get condensation Issues. I also air the room out properly after we have had washing in there.

PrincessofWells · 25/01/2025 09:04

TheMammySheep · 25/01/2025 08:21

Are you in a house or flat? If you have no outside space to dry, ie a garden, it's illegal not to provide a dryer

Utter fabrication . . .. Foolish not to provide one but a law, where do people find this stuff 🤣