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Teachers I need solidarity before I leave the profession

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Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 17:38

I love teaching. I have done it for 22 years.
I am sick of parents moaning. Today has put the tin hat on it.
Here's my situation (this is not exact but an approximation as close to similar as I can get it without putting actual details.)
Let's say I've been teaching French bakery recipes to my cooking club. A local French bakery has offered to host 5 students( in its tiny kitchen) on Saturday morning at 7.30am before they open so they can watch the pastry chef making the items. This is a total favour and just a nice thing they do not have to do. They did this as on my way to work, I was chatting whilst waiting to get my coffee. I as a teacher have agreed to give up my Saturday morning to take them. Every child in cookery club was offered the experience, by email with their parent copied in. It was NOT first come first served, they were clearly told if there's more than 5, we will draw out of a hat. There were more than 5 interested , so I wrote them all on pieces of paper and trotted next door to a different teacher, who came and drew 5 names out. Now I have Two parental complaints demanding to see photos of the slips and why didn't I video the draw and provide evidence. I know it's Friday and I'm tired but fuck I want to leave.

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Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 24/01/2025 21:45

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 20:34

OK you're entirely right. Thanks

Sorry l need to back op up here - she didn't know it would be that popular and the bakery are doing her a massive favour - why would she decline such an offer? If it goes well, they may invite her back so more children can go.
If she did 1st come 1st served, the people that didn't see the letter or email straight away would kick off.
Random names out of a hat is the best way - obvs the selected children's names don't get the next trip out.

DoggoQuestions · 24/01/2025 21:45

(in the colloquial all day every day sense anyway)

DoggoQuestions · 24/01/2025 21:44

saraclara · 24/01/2025 21:41

We are looking after their kids 24/7 for a 5 days straight

Umm. You might want to try that again @Sugarcoldturkey 🙄

As they were talking about a residential, they were absolutely correct with the 24/7.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 21:41

We are looking after their kids 24/7 for a 5 days straight

Umm. You might want to try that again @Sugarcoldturkey 🙄

100PercentFaithful · 24/01/2025 21:37

We have a parent at school who is that parent.
Complains about everything. I think she just wants attention herself despite being well educated, well to do and in a good job.
The result of her endless complaining is all the staff dislike her and her child.
Everyone dreads getting her kid in their class.
Everyone is defensive and guarded and falsely naice to her (through gritted teeth).
Everyone is extremely guarded with every dealing with her child.

Her child has zero resilience. Absolutely none.

He cries and whinges over everything.
Mum will sort every single trivial thing out for him. He will grow into a Trump-like adult and will no doubt be a terrible husband.

Embroideryemma · 24/01/2025 21:37

In primary we were told to email the teacher. I emailed the teacher. The head called me out for emailing the teacher at 10:30 at night. As though I have a choice about when to squeeze life admin in.

In secondary (state) we have to email the admin office, who seem to delete all messages immediately as no one ever gets back to us ever. Even when my child was struggling with severe mental ill health. Yeh I get the you are busy, but either offer communication or don’t. Don’t offer it but not respond.

AllstarFacilier · 24/01/2025 21:35

Oh god I’ve just been reminded of a trip we ran before Christmas. When we got back from school, parents collecting kids parked in the bus bays instead of using the car park, so the buses had to stop in the road to let kids out. One parent left his car parked across the zebra crossing to go into school and complain about how unsafe it was for thus to let the kids out where we did.

Doubledded123 · 24/01/2025 21:32

Yes and yes, in my school today... we banned 3 more parents ... Rude abusive and genuinely threatening.

Wineinthegarden · 24/01/2025 21:29

It’s just so tiring and so depleting. I try so hard to make things fun but keep being told it’s boring. And parents telling me that their child doesn’t like something or being told that they need to do things. Like writing or reading. I don’t know how they expect me to get them through their GCSEs if I don’t get them to read or write. Just lost and that the joy has gone out of teaching. I still laugh and enjoy being with the kids but it’s definitely not what it was when I came into the job.

Lilactimes · 24/01/2025 21:29

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 20:52

This is a really good point actually
I also think parents don't realise that when they behave like this, it makes teachers reluctant to engage with their child. Their child is worse off as you are so scared to do right for doing wrong

Are you not allowed to turn round and say - I had arranged this, was going to do this on Saturday but now it’s become too complicated so I’m not sorry. It’s good that they realise I think. I would have been mortified as a parent if I’d thought my behaviour had ruined things.

derxa · 24/01/2025 21:25

Ribenaberry12 · 24/01/2025 20:56

Parents will complain about ANYTHING. Best school I worked at was oversubscribed. In the face of bonkers parental complaints the Headteacher adopted an approach of: “Is that so? Well, it turns out we have a waiting list of students who are willing to wear the uniform/do their homework/go to detention/not twat about in class so if your child doesn’t want to there’s 20 kids waiting who’d love their place…” worked a dream. They soon sorted themselves out. Doubt you could get away with it now!

What a brilliant response

Lilactimes · 24/01/2025 21:24

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 17:38

I love teaching. I have done it for 22 years.
I am sick of parents moaning. Today has put the tin hat on it.
Here's my situation (this is not exact but an approximation as close to similar as I can get it without putting actual details.)
Let's say I've been teaching French bakery recipes to my cooking club. A local French bakery has offered to host 5 students( in its tiny kitchen) on Saturday morning at 7.30am before they open so they can watch the pastry chef making the items. This is a total favour and just a nice thing they do not have to do. They did this as on my way to work, I was chatting whilst waiting to get my coffee. I as a teacher have agreed to give up my Saturday morning to take them. Every child in cookery club was offered the experience, by email with their parent copied in. It was NOT first come first served, they were clearly told if there's more than 5, we will draw out of a hat. There were more than 5 interested , so I wrote them all on pieces of paper and trotted next door to a different teacher, who came and drew 5 names out. Now I have Two parental complaints demanding to see photos of the slips and why didn't I video the draw and provide evidence. I know it's Friday and I'm tired but fuck I want to leave.

Omg - I’m so sorry…. That is crazy. I can’t believe they would behave so rudely towards you. Idiots. You sound great - don’t give up - teachers are fab!

Whattodo121 · 24/01/2025 21:23

This week in teaching I have been stretched to beyond breaking point and I cried all the way to work. Nothing I do is ever enough. My feeling of burnout is more from micromanaging and totally unreasonable expectations from SLT rather than parents complaining, but over the years I worked in private schools I had many many batshit parental complaints. Awful. Not sure how much longer I can do this for.

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 21:18

InWalksBarberalla · 24/01/2025 21:16

Well it certainly sounds like being a teacher makes life harder than it should be and if all teachers decided they didn't want to do it anymore then the rest of us would be screwed.

And if we all decided to not make life harder for ourselves, every club would vanish, things like scouts, guides, brownies would go. Every kid hanging back to talk to me would be ignored so I could go and have my break uninterrupted. I'd also not adapt any resources or update anything

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InWalksBarberalla · 24/01/2025 21:16

brummumma · 24/01/2025 20:52

Not at all

I'm just saying it wasn't the best idea and was always going to cause grief when such a small number of children could attend. Why make life harder for yourself?

Well it certainly sounds like being a teacher makes life harder than it should be and if all teachers decided they didn't want to do it anymore then the rest of us would be screwed.

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 21:10

Cakeandusername · 24/01/2025 21:08

Not a teacher but a volunteer leader. We are definitely getting far more emails especially from parents of the younger ones.
Emails that just a few years ago you’d never have received.
X was ‘sad’ she didn’t get a turn at a game (there’s too many to all have a turn each week) - easily dealt with by a never mind I’m sure you’ll get a turn soon instead mum writes long email.
And parents getting very involved in tiny details to try and protect child from any minor upset or inconvenience eg y must sit with her friend.

Our drama lead had a parent email as her son had been sent back for moving when he definitely wasn't moving and it wasn't fair. Know what she was talking about? The children's game of grandmas footsteps!!

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Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 24/01/2025 21:09

HereBeFuckery · 24/01/2025 20:44

Not just the parents/children complaining of the 'unfairness' of everything anything they don't win, but the 'I don't feel comfortable' brigade.
This week I've had 'can I move seats, I don't feel comfortable next to a boy', and 'I don't feel comfortable in the detention hall, can you cancel my detention' and 'I didn't feel comfortable waiting to go to the toilet, so I left the classroom (despite being told not to).'

I have adopted a 'hmm, okay' and big smile.

Ah can’t you just wait until these people hit the real world and understand that work isn’t like this.

Can you imagine ‘I feel uncomfortable with the deadline you have given me’.

Cakeandusername · 24/01/2025 21:08

Not a teacher but a volunteer leader. We are definitely getting far more emails especially from parents of the younger ones.
Emails that just a few years ago you’d never have received.
X was ‘sad’ she didn’t get a turn at a game (there’s too many to all have a turn each week) - easily dealt with by a never mind I’m sure you’ll get a turn soon instead mum writes long email.
And parents getting very involved in tiny details to try and protect child from any minor upset or inconvenience eg y must sit with her friend.

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 21:06

All emails are very guessable so its teachersname @ nameofschool

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Brainstorm23 · 24/01/2025 21:02

I'm astounded that parents have your e-mail address! When I was at school I don't even think we had parents evenings in primary and i'm only early 40s. Parents got a report once a year and that was that. I don't think they ever even saw the teacher at all.

My daughter's in P3 and I don't think her teacher is perfect but I just let her crack on the basis that she's the trained education professional and I'm very much not.

Midnightlove · 24/01/2025 21:02

Wow I feel for you.. I try so hard not to be that parent! Just drop him off, pick him up and unless there's anything major I need to mention just leave the teachers alone. There are certain parents constantly surrounding DSs teacher at drop off and pick up each day though, no doubt being a pain in the arse.

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 24/01/2025 21:01

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 20:29

Children being disappointed by something when they clearly knew it was a draw is mental.
Ever heard of a raffle?

Raffle
Applying for a job
Applying to university
Applying for an apprenticeship
Trying out for a school team
Trying out for a school play
Head kid
School captain

Basically living in the real world.

The person you are responding to is absolutely one of those parents so just ignore her and her entitled “why did you do this when it wast fair for everyone behaviour’.

Poster you are the kind of parent that makes teachers want to give up teaching If you can do a better job, retrain and try.

Teachers once again I salute you.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 24/01/2025 20:58

Wankers. That is all.

ASimpleLampoon · 24/01/2025 20:57

Hufflemuff · 24/01/2025 17:43

I feel for you! Out of interest whats been the turning point for you?

My mum friends and I were discussing it - 2 of them are teachers and we think a key turning point was the ability to email teachers becoming a thing. People are more comfortable being livid about something behind a screen I guess!

But also the flip side of this in secondary schools, where you get a notification on every behaviour point and missed bit of homework- so we are dragged into school dramas at home, that previously would have just been left between child and teacher.

In my DD school we can't email teachers only the head of year. That's an important boundary to have I reckon!

Soniastrumpet1984 · 24/01/2025 20:57

Ribenaberry12 · 24/01/2025 20:56

Parents will complain about ANYTHING. Best school I worked at was oversubscribed. In the face of bonkers parental complaints the Headteacher adopted an approach of: “Is that so? Well, it turns out we have a waiting list of students who are willing to wear the uniform/do their homework/go to detention/not twat about in class so if your child doesn’t want to there’s 20 kids waiting who’d love their place…” worked a dream. They soon sorted themselves out. Doubt you could get away with it now!

God wouldn't you love to do this?
Just reply to the email with " off somewhere else then" and every school did it

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