Circumcision should be banned.

There is nothing ignorant about it. It’s not whether the organ is functional later in life. It’s about causing pain without consent.

Probably because we know if it was an acceptable Christian and/or white practice then we'd be ok with it, because it would be the accepted norm. The uncomfortable truth.

Ignorant comment alert

I’m sure it was. A friend’s baby was circumcised within a month or two of birth. I had to go to theirs to drop off something and the screams I heard from that baby haunted me for days!! No anaesthesia was used and he was too young for paracetemol. So, ZERO pain relief. HORRIFIC!!

FGM is illegal, not unnecessary

I have read that the equivalent of FGM on a male would be if they had about 2/3 of the penis removed, let alone the terrible complications FGM often causes

I think you'd have a very different reaction if this was an American site. FWIW I disagree with it, but I'm sure research will show that screens do more long term damage statistically, yet that's acceptable 🤷🏼‍♀️

I think it should be banned for children. Leave their bodies alone until they are old enough to make up their own mind. I say that as a mother of a child that was circumcised for religious reasons with no pressure exerted on me to do so. Something I deeply regret and whilst DS is absolutely fine with no memory of it, at the time I wish I had listened to my maternal instinct that it was not normal. I still get upset thinking about it now. I would add FGM and ear piercings to the list. All completely unnecessary in children.

I know this is an old post but I had to comment.

I’ve always disagreed with this. FGM is basically a tool to subjugate and control girls and young women, male circumcision, although used differently, is still totally unacceptable if it is done to children - with or without their consent. The fact it’s done for some archaic religious purpose is irrelevant. We don’t stone women for adultery here and wouldn’t tolerate it. There are many things that were done a very long time ago that were part of our own indigenous culture and religion that have been rightly discarded. This is surely a human rights issue - how can it not be?!

Ppl are up in arms when babies have their ears pierced, but this is somehow tolerated bc it’s in the scary realms of ethnicity and religion. Fuck that.

Circumcision is unnecessary mutilation or body modification, to put a more sanitary spin on it. Once it’s done - that’s it, forever. How can it ever be justified?!

How can the imposition of such a significant alteration to another person’s genitalia be approved and carried out by qualified surgeons - if they’re ‘lucky’?

This should not even be up for discussion and should not be tolerated here or anywhere else for that matter - it should carry the same stigma as FGM - I’m amazed it doesn’t.

Ppl like the poster I am quoting sum up the view a lot of ppl seem to share - they don’t want to be seen to be critical of another culture or religion. So child abuse should be tolerated if it’s done by a non-British/christian parent? We’ve managed to outlaw child brides and raised the age to 18 but for some reason physical abuse via non-medical surgery is acceptable ?! What if it was part of a culture to have sex with your brother at the age of 16, or FIL before getting married? Or having your fingernails removed at birth?

I cannot understand why ppl would rather not say or do anything for fear of being labelled a racist at the expense of protecting vulnerable babies and children. But then the whole child grooming travesty highlights the gross hypocrisy we have as a society for turning a blind eye to child suffering and abuse in specific circumstances.

It has to stop.

Why are you spreading misinformation? What are you getting from it?

For little ones it’s fine to just have a splash in the bath when they get older it’s a good idea to pull back the foreskin and give it a wash with a flannel to make sure there isn’t any cheesy build up. My ex was in the army apparently new recruits are given instruction on how to wash properly! It can cause quite nasty sores if sand got trapped under a foreskin and left. Possibly more applicable if you were to end up fighting in a desert.

It's best that a young boy is taught how to pull it back and wash around the base of the glans when having a bath or showering. You would think it would be obvious but to many it isn't.

What utter nonsense. It’s not less sweaty and it does affect a sex.

What is this thing about keeping a foreskin clean? I have a son, I have never paid his foreskin any special attention (should I have?) he used to just splash about in the bath. My son's an adult now.

We removed DD's tonsils during her Christening,party, you never know

@Hoppinggreen You mean I didn't really need to lob my kids toes off at birth even though he might have got athletes foot later in life? Shit.

Very very few men/boys need their foreskin removed later for medical reasons.
Your argument suggests we should cut off all sorts of bits from babies in case they cause an issue later

It says so in the 'Parents guide to mutilating your child's penis for no reason' handbook.

It's under the 'what bollocks to make up when people challenge your pathetic reasons' section.

"doesn't affect sex,"

And you would know this how?

Lots of populations near the equator have no tradition of infant circumcision (hint: Jews do it to show that they are different - it wasn't the default in "hot countries".)

It should be simple enough to work out number of infants needed to circumcise to avoid a phimosis needing circumcision (most don't). It's over 100 to prevent 1 uti - over time, you'll have a death or accidental amputation to avoid the uti or phimosis so need to take that into account as well.

Sweaty foreskin is not a thing, and people with no experience with foreskins really overestimate how hard it is to keep a small boy with one clean...

The foreskin has no purpose?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

In hot countries it's easier to keep clean and less sweaty, so I understand why most of the countries near equator circumcise boys at birth. The foreskin has no purpose, doesn't affect sex, removal at birth prevents problems later on like foreskin being too tight.

I don’t imagine they are. Similarly, I wouldn’t want anything to do with someone like that.

My beautiful son after 8 days old? Anyone's beautiful baby after birth being handed over to be cut? It's bad enough having the heel prick test, don't worry I wasn't dramatic but even at 1 plus getting his innoculations which he had to have was bad enough... I just don't get this at all & don't say it's cultural it isn't, it's insane

I heard someone upthread sayin their American husband wanted it done to their baby beause "otherwise he won't look like me" no words