Circumcision should be banned.

That graphic is shocking. 100% FGM in many African countries. Whilst FGM is illegal in the UK we now have a court dedicated to FGM cases as it happens here albeit hushed up of course.
We need to stop migration from these places, FGM has no place in the UK. The law matters nothing to these people who want to practice their culture.

circumcision was also encouraged by the military and in canada by the police force (in that at one point it was a requirement) for health reasons (less chance of infection).
generally mn is not in favor of circumcision at all, i've never heard it discussed much in canada some do some don't 100% family preference.
it has health benefits and is easier tolerated in infants than older children.

It's more about the child having a choice in what happens to it's own body. When they are 18 then let them decide what they want then. Until then leave the poor kids alone.
Personally I don't even like seeing babies with piercings... fgs leave the kids alone until they can make their own decisions.

I was only interested in adult males

A babies foreskin is fused to their penis, in the same way their skin is fused to their fingers. If parents want to pay someone to mutilate their child, perhaps they should have a finger completely skinned with the same level of pain relief as the baby, their finger should then be covered in wee and poo several times a day during the healing process.

It is ludicrous.
I get that a few thousand years ago, poor genital hygiene posed a serious health risk, hence the 'need' for mutilating children...
But in the modern age, fuck your stupid fucking religious fucking nonsense that advocates mutilating children.

Would you say this regarding FGM though?

I think involuntary (as in parents deciding for their children) male circumcision is as barbaric as female - men can lose sensation and it affects their sex life and can provoke profound mental health issues for assorted reasons. There was an article about a man who committed suicide due to the impact it had had on him a few years ago and more should be publicly discussed about it.

It’s ridiculous that this subject seems taboo or out of bounds just bc it is practised by non-Christian religions. Also the inhumane way animals are butchered in the name of some religions is just as vile. What about child brides? Should they be allowed again? Thats finally being stamped out, and they’re now discussing in hushed tones the matter of banning cousin marriage due to the horrendous impact it has on the children involved with numerous birth defects etc.

Why is C of E allowed to be openly mocked in the media, and in society in general, but the gross customs of others tolerated and worse still protected? Anyone?

I lurk on r/PornisMisogyny, & several women there theorise that circumcision partly fuels feelings of sexual inadequacy & consequent misogyny in the US, as it's so common there.

This is both antisemitic and false (and I am both Jewish and live in the USA). The influence of Jews on American circumcision practices is wildly exaggerated. In fact, there was an active effort to keep Jews out of medicine for a kong time, which is why there are so many hospitals in major cities named things like Beth Israel and Mount Sinai. They were founded by Jewish doctors who weren't allowed to practise in the other hospitals.

Even today Jews are less than 2% of the US population.

It was promoted by 19th and early 20th century doctors who weren't Jewish. John Harvey Kellogg (of cornflakes fame) was a Seventh-Day Adventist who promoted circumcision to reduce masturbation.

The history of circumcision bans has a lot of antisemitism and today Islamophobia.

A child can never consent to this procedure. Surely, if that child grows up, and wants to go through it as an adult than that’s fine.

The majority of people do it, because they are told that it’s „”a religious tradition”, or that „”it’s a cultural norm”, or that it’s just what has always been done”. Etc. In most instances, it’s never an informed decision, people just go along with it blindly, without properly questioning the reasoning behind it. Like I said, a child is not able to consent to such an extreme procedure. I would never put religion/culture/tradition ahead of putting my child’s well being first, never. They were born perfect. Just because some things have been done since year dot, doesn’t mean they are right, and we should always be questioning, and not accepting things in blind faith. Surely a mother, if given the chance, will know what is the best for her own child, more so than some holy man or some elder, who think they know better. Seriously, tradition doesn’t always equal good.

Circumcision offers benefits of easier cleanliness though and can avoid issues of the foreskin becoming too tight. FGM offers no benefit whatsoever…

By that reasoning then let’s also ban ear piercing on babies and young children then 🙄 FWIW I remember my brother had to have it done as a young child because his foreskin was too tight. My husband had to have it done as a teen, for the same reason. He soon got over the procedure. And it’s much easier to keep clean down there because there’s less area for bacteria to accumulate and multiply.

Then they can be lumped in together - unnecessary surgical operations on genitals that need to be banned. Why complicate things.

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I was circumcised within days of being born. Our family doctor was adamant that the foreskin served no useful purpose, and increased the possibility of infection.
In later years, I was happy with having been circumcised and always flinched at the idea of a penis that was "uncut."
I will have to reread this thread to see if there are posts from women who express any preference either way in respect of partners

You will never outlaw FGM while male circumcision is allowed.

If you want FGM to stop it all stops.

Because Hospitals can charge for it

Of course it should be banned!

health benefits of voluntary male circumcision.
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As someone whose child has to undergo potentially life saving surgery when very young, I really struggle with this unnecessary mutilation of a perfect newborn/infant. I will never forget my eldest needing a cannula put in his hand as a newborn: that was horrendous enough to put him thorough although, again, medically necessary.

It became popular in (puritanical) America for the same reason it became popular in religions: because it makes masturbation less fun. Everything else is post hoc justification and not based in science.

I've heard Muslims trying to claim that eating pork is intrinsically harmful to the human body in a way that eating beef isn't (as opposed to potentially poisonous because pigs are not very clean), and I would not be at all surprised to find that some highly orthodox rabbi has a video demonstrating that if you cook veal in a cream sauce it transmogrifies into plutonium or something.

Circumcision has not been proven to have a health benefit. Take your misinformation elsewhere

You know the moment someone starts off a post with 'educate yourself', the rest of the comment is going to be moronic.

You educate yourself
Babies arrive with all the necesssary bits there in most cases. Its not up to non medically qualified people to decide that some bits should be cut off.

Me too, newborn baby, absolutely horrific !