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People with driveways parking on the street

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Hellskitchen24 · 24/01/2025 14:05

I live in a long row of terraces. Most roads are terraced here, as I live in a fairly working class town. This means that the only people with driveways are the end of the terraces. I live a few doors down from the end.

My neighbour has in the last 6 months or so decided to mostly stop using their driveway. It’s a relatively fit retired couple. They probably only use the car a handful of times per week, and instead park it on the road outside our houses. They’ve got this thing now where on the odd occasion they do have it on their drive, as soon as the person moves from the space outside our house, they are up and put their car on it. Even if that’s at the crack of dawn; I’ve seen them peering out at the window at 6:30am, on the rare occasion I’ve got that space and I leave for work. They will be loitering by the door waiting for me to leave.

I don’t quite understand the logic. They are only one of two houses on the street with two dedicated parking spaces, with a perfectly wide accessible drive. I get back quite late at night from work and have to park several streets away when I’m heavily pregnant. So admittedly it does wind me up a bit seeing their empty driveway while all the other residents struggle to park. I know legally they are doing nothing wrong at all. But would I be unreasonable to put a note through their door asking them to possibly use their perfectly accessible driveway to free up more space for the majority who don’t have off road parking?

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PlumpHobbit · 29/01/2025 18:57

Abitofalark · 29/01/2025 02:09

If these are public roads, the turn into the close should have double yellow lines for several metres around the junction.That's standard where I live. You can ask your local council highways department to do it. Years ago I went to see them in person and got some double yellows put in along the side of my house in place of a single yellow. That was in addition to those already around the junction.

It takes a while but they will get around to it according to their timetable of works and legal requirements to consult or whatever. My council publishes a list every so often, maybe twice a year, of changes they've made to local road markings, whether it's no loading or yellow lines etc.

Thank you, they are in desperate need of double yellows, people seem to be so incredibly selfish round here, bloody range rover is still dumped right in the entrance to the road, so I think it's going to take double yellows, rather than relying on people using common sense/decency

Need to get a message together to send to them

Abitofalark · 29/01/2025 02:09

PlumpHobbit · 28/01/2025 23:19

People park like absolute feckwitts round here - opposite ends of road, right on the corner of a turning etc

Really racks me off slaloming around cars, especially as there's driveways and you can see space on them, it just takes a bit of effort to maybe move the outer car if the other is needed

It's also dangerous being on the wrong side of the road to get out a turning, because there's a fucking car blocking the side of the road you're supposed to be on. Great fun if something is trying to turn in as well, and is also on the wrong side of the road due to the sodding car opposite the junction

What's worse is off the busier road, there's cars right up to the turning most of the time, and there's a school just up the road, makes it so dangerous and the potential for a nasty accident- i always turn in super slowly knowing there's probably a car but some people may not

Really want to get some double yellows put in but wouldn't know how to go about it

It all kicked off in the neighbourhood group chat recently as someone's massive car was parked opposite the turning out the road, and someone parked theirs the opposite side, no way an ambulance could have fitted. Said massive range rover is now right on the corner of the turn into our close, causing anyone exiting it to be on the wrong side of the road. Again had issues this morning where i was forced to be on the wrong side waiting to get out, and someone was trying to get in, also impeded by parked cars on their part of road. Really want to put another moan in the group chat about the range rover now causing yet more problems but think all hell would break loose!

If these are public roads, the turn into the close should have double yellow lines for several metres around the junction.That's standard where I live. You can ask your local council highways department to do it. Years ago I went to see them in person and got some double yellows put in along the side of my house in place of a single yellow. That was in addition to those already around the junction.

It takes a while but they will get around to it according to their timetable of works and legal requirements to consult or whatever. My council publishes a list every so often, maybe twice a year, of changes they've made to local road markings, whether it's no loading or yellow lines etc.

PlumpHobbit · 28/01/2025 23:19

People park like absolute feckwitts round here - opposite ends of road, right on the corner of a turning etc

Really racks me off slaloming around cars, especially as there's driveways and you can see space on them, it just takes a bit of effort to maybe move the outer car if the other is needed

It's also dangerous being on the wrong side of the road to get out a turning, because there's a fucking car blocking the side of the road you're supposed to be on. Great fun if something is trying to turn in as well, and is also on the wrong side of the road due to the sodding car opposite the junction

What's worse is off the busier road, there's cars right up to the turning most of the time, and there's a school just up the road, makes it so dangerous and the potential for a nasty accident- i always turn in super slowly knowing there's probably a car but some people may not

Really want to get some double yellows put in but wouldn't know how to go about it

It all kicked off in the neighbourhood group chat recently as someone's massive car was parked opposite the turning out the road, and someone parked theirs the opposite side, no way an ambulance could have fitted. Said massive range rover is now right on the corner of the turn into our close, causing anyone exiting it to be on the wrong side of the road. Again had issues this morning where i was forced to be on the wrong side waiting to get out, and someone was trying to get in, also impeded by parked cars on their part of road. Really want to put another moan in the group chat about the range rover now causing yet more problems but think all hell would break loose!

DuesToTheDirt · 28/01/2025 20:14

Iwantmyoldnameback · 28/01/2025 09:07

The annoying thing is by adding driveways people are taking away street parking spaces from other people which is why I think it's a bit cheeky if they don't use them. Different if houses are built with them if course.

Someone on our street turned their driveway into a parking space, side on to the house - it wouldn't fit if it were facing the house. The road markings are about 1 1/2 car lengths, and if people park carelessly that's 2 car spaces taken away from public parking. Gives me the rage.

Blushingm · 28/01/2025 17:45

SillySausij · 28/01/2025 01:04

Just park in their drive, it's not illegal to do this. Then when they question you on it just tell them that you used it as they never do and you assumed they prefer the road. 🤷
if they don't want someone to park on their drive then they should use it themselves and not use the road.

It's still considered trespassing even if not technically illegal it's a civil offence

Iwantmyoldnameback · 28/01/2025 09:07

The annoying thing is by adding driveways people are taking away street parking spaces from other people which is why I think it's a bit cheeky if they don't use them. Different if houses are built with them if course.

Madeinbuck · 28/01/2025 07:16

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TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 28/01/2025 06:57

Hellskitchen24 · 24/01/2025 14:24

They don’t have carers. They are fairly fit looking, probably 70 odd.

I don’t “spy” on anyone. I work three long days a week, which means I’m home the other 4. My front room overlooks the street, and subsequently their car. I am looking at it now from the sofa as I’m on a day off - it hardly ever moves!

You said they only use their car a handful of times per week, but as you are working from home for 2 days, out at work for 3, are you using yours more than they are using theirs over the course of a week?
Better to go and have a discussion with them than to leave a note (that's passive-aggressive)

Madeinbuck · 28/01/2025 06:29

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SillySausij · 28/01/2025 01:04

Just park in their drive, it's not illegal to do this. Then when they question you on it just tell them that you used it as they never do and you assumed they prefer the road. 🤷
if they don't want someone to park on their drive then they should use it themselves and not use the road.

Howdyneighbour · 28/01/2025 00:58

OP you have my strongest sympathies, I could have written this word for word. The man we are unfortunate enough to live next door to did this when we first moved in. Him - end of the terrace, garage, drive way, off road parking space. Us - front garden + nothing. His wife parked in the off road space, he used the garage for his motorcycle, and preferred to leave the driveway free. I presume in order to ease access to the garage / motorcycle, which he used more frequently than his overlarge car. This sat parked outside our house for 8 days out of 10 without moving. On the rare occasions he did use it, if we or someone else managed to park in the space, he would, like your neighbour, be twitching at the curtains until the space was free at which point he would whip out and take it. Within seconds or minutes at the most.

He once went on holiday for a fortnight, taking their car. He actually had a relative come and park a workvan in the space during his 14 day absence, to ensure he could park there on his return. This was when we had 2 children under 2/3, leaving the house with buggies and baby gear and car seats, and all the rest that this stage of life entails. We had other residents in the street approach us a number of times, in the local park or whilst my poor partner struggled from his distant parking spot with a baby under one arm, buggy under other and toddler by the hand to say they couldn't understand why he did this or how we coped.

In my more charitable moments, I wonder if he actually has some kind of very specific mental deficiency relating to car parking because surely even selfish dickheads don't usually go so far as to recruit their relatives into their dickheadishness whilst they go on holiday.

We eventually had a driveway put in, and the day he came home to find our buildings digging up the parvement around his precious vehicle was a satisfying one indeed. There was a lot of huffing, puffing and vigorous pavement brushing. I'll be forever grateful that we were able to do this. The parking on our whole street has improved as a result, because the person he did this to next also did a driveway at which point he gave up, and discovered his ample off road parking is in fact more than sufficient for his needs.

I wish you a similiarly successful outcome and in the meantime send my sympathies.

Abitofalark · 28/01/2025 00:38

ADifferentSong · 27/01/2025 17:03

You have read this completely the wrong way round.

No, I was referring to a previous comment about terraced houses failing to integrate with the modern world.

ADifferentSong · 27/01/2025 17:03

Abitofalark · 25/01/2025 13:49

It's the houses' fault that the modern world is turning into a giant car park. Er...what could possibly be missing from that line of thought?

You have read this completely the wrong way round.

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MontyDonsBlueScarf · 25/01/2025 14:18

BatchCookBabe · 24/01/2025 20:52

As has been said on here several times, if you have so little driving skill(s) that you can't get on and off your own driveway, you shouldn't be driving. 'I can't get on and off my driveway because it's difficult' is a rubbish reason for parking on the road and getting in peoples way. Learn to drive properly!

@LakieLady isn't saying she can't get into her drive, she's saying that when she does she can't get out of her car because of the combination of her physical abilities and the land levels What's that got to do with her driving skills?

Abitofalark · 25/01/2025 13:49

ADifferentSong · 25/01/2025 10:41

Or the developments of the modern world fail to integrate with what is already there.

It's the houses' fault that the modern world is turning into a giant car park. Er...what could possibly be missing from that line of thought?

Abitofalark · 25/01/2025 13:41

Pluvia · 24/01/2025 15:44

I'd go round there, heavily pregnant, and say that if they weren't going to use their drive to park in, will they let you park there? Tell them that once you've had the baby you will expect them to move their car to enable you to park outside your home rather than in adjoining streets. I'd shame them into behaving reasonably.

I very much doubt they would welcome the idea of someone parking on their property.

Blushingm · 25/01/2025 12:48

Op you bought a house where on street parking is obviously difficult as you apparently had to park 'streets' away.

1 person not using their drive won't solve this as it's sounds like 1 people xtra on street parking space will be a drop in the ocean.
You bought that house knowing the parking situation so why are you now complaining?

You have no idea why they don't use their drive - you're speculating.. You've not even spoken to them but you're obviously riled up and are out for an argument with them

ADifferentSong · 25/01/2025 10:41

GreenTeaLikesMe · 25/01/2025 07:22

Britain really needs to have a conversation about the acres and acres of terraces founds across some of its cities. What with the parking madness, the tiny sizes and the problems involved with trying to insulate them, they really are unsuited to the modern world.

Or the developments of the modern world fail to integrate with what is already there.

ADifferentSong · 25/01/2025 10:39

But having said this, it is the neighbourly thing to try and help the people next door or opposite.

ADifferentSong · 25/01/2025 10:38

CherryFlan · 24/01/2025 14:23

But if parking is so much in-demand that you have to park several streets away then whether their single car is parked on the street or off-street parking is going to make bugger-all difference. When they move their car the space won't remain free and available for your convenience!

This is so true. We’ve had gas works going on all along our road. The workers have dug holes and barriered both sides of the driveway opposite to us leaving them a very narrow gap indeed. When my car is parked outside (we have no driveway), I have parked my own car further along the road to help the people opposite get their cars in and out, especially as they have two small kids. But that hasn’t stopped other people from parking their cars in ‘my spot’, so I wonder at the point of my moving 🤷🏻‍♀️

RedRiverShore5 · 25/01/2025 10:31

Yes, I would just ask if you can use the drive if there is no space, we always let NDNs use ours when we go on holidays.

mummyh2016 · 25/01/2025 10:02

They aren't lucky to have a driveway, buyers or renters will be paying more for a property with off street parking than one without. When we were buying our house our top priority was off street parking. Others will prioritise a bigger house/nicer area/south facing garden etc. Sorry to be blunt you choosing to live in a property with no off street parking doesn't mean you get priority over the street parking opposed to those with a driveway.
You said they used the drive up until 6 months ago so there must be a reason why this changed. Why it has changed is none of your business though, using notes or telling them to move is being unreasonable. If you have a good relationship I would nicely ask them if it would be possible to use their drive when there isn't anywhere to park in your street, with the promise to move your car as soon as a space comes available. If they say no (which is within their rights) then don't get annoyed and say thank you and continue what you've been doing.

CactusUmbrella · 25/01/2025 07:58

Why don't you ask if YOU can use their drive OP? That would certainly solve the issue!