To think that AI is taking over jobs far, far, FAR quicker than we anticipated?

@SnarkSideOfLife
Re read what I said.
Humans check every order due to multiple snafus in the past.

Amazon already uses robots for picking orders in the warehouses, 750,000 robots apparently https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/operations/amazon-introduces-new-robotics-solutions

Nah, anything written by ai is so obviously AI and therefore not much cop.

Cvs are arriving having been submitted to ai first and are weirdly unreadable

Up your standards. Appreciate unique human thought and discussion. Reject AI reports and emails which don't make sense. ' Have a prosperous weekend' Utter bollocks.

I've had a play with it, to see what kind of essays it can write. Especially as kids are increasingly using it to submit theirs. It does passable gcse ones, but not A Level. There's no heart or thought.

I do think it's going to change all the knowledge professions. But unless there are massive changes in society, it all feels back to front. Surely AI should make our lives better, not turn us into the mechanicals. I want a world where AI does everything and our job is just to experience the world.

Then I want spaceships. Proper, talking ones.

I think that jobs which require actual human connection will be fine. There's a hell of a difference between taking advice or guidance from an actual person who has been through similar events, and reading a shitty AI paragraph about the topic.

Even for things that can be automated, like checkouts, lots of people still choose to use the option with a person involved.

Shitty AI customer service chat bots annoy customers who persevere until they can reach a human or vote with their feet.

Art, Music and Literature aren't just tasks to be completed. A movie isn't just a story made of pictures. Underneath it all, they are all ways for us to connect with other human minds and feel what they are feeling for a time. People need people.

One of the jobs I do online is evaluating AI.

Nah, there, is no intelligence there - no learning. It's still just a computer program. AI is great for things like spotting anomalies in scans/xrays etc, but crap at finding the meaning in those anomalies - so it would be a great asset to the NHS to highlight findings that doctors can interpret.

It would be great at something like 111 calls, where there's only a need to follow a script that leads to an outcome. It would be awful at assessing 999 calls, because it can't understand anything other than the spoken word. A breathless voice or a voice in pain would mean nothing to an AI if the person was not able to say they were in pain or breathless.

It cannot learn, although we are constantly told it can. The same mistakes happen again and again, even in something as simple as the AI you see at the top of a google search. It smashes together anything related to specific words - it has no understanding of the same word having different meanings, or people with the same first name being different people. this can possobly be programmed out, but hasn't happened yet.

I tried AI to get from a recording of a meeting to a record of decisions and outcomes.
Never again.

And when AI can replace the job of a fork lift driver in a warehouse
or a supermarket shopping order picker
or an Amazon warehouse order checker
I'll be too old to care

That's interesting. What sort of jobs/level are these people at?

Genuinely curious - not being snarky! I know very little about ChatGPT and that sort of AI.

Ai is not always right.

Everybody I have spoken to in tech industries says that the problem is more nuanced. AI is very good at analysing data, but generative AI (think Chat GTP) is being waaay oversold. It cannot do what the media claims it can, and is unlikely to in our lifetimes.
On the other hand, the highest value stock on the SNP500 is Nvidia, making GPUs for AI. They worry that once it is realised that AI cannot do what it claims, it will cause the next stock market crash.

This is an interesting idea. For roles that involve both a client facing part and then copious record keeping of everything you discuss with the client, I can see a benefit.

There are always more people than I can help in my role. Reducing the time I spend recording would mean I can reach twice as many people.

You're right, from my perspective in Marketing I've been able to cut my spend on graphic designers because a couple of things I've been able to AI together myself. Same with copy writing and translating things. We used to pay a translation company, but now we're finding the AI so intuitive that it's not necessary to pay £200 for translating 5 pages of text.

I could have done with hiring an assistant writer a while ago, maybe a 2 or 3 days a week role but AI has helped speed up certain things so fast that we don't need this!

YES I KNOW... I'm being part of the problem

Yes, I think we're still a good way off full self driving in the UK.

And, apparently, paperless offces.

But that doesn't mean the tech isn't there.

Interesting point about trucks first - that seems obvious now I think about it!
And probably things like city taxis.

Self Driving Cars : The first to go will be trucks because they do set routes and there is a huge shortage of drivers
but its still 10 years away.

Rural roads in areas with no phone signal will keep driverless cars in cities for years yet
but cities are where therr are alternatives to travelling by car

Paperless office - yeah right. Lever arch sales are still doing great !

Not for me! But I'm more of a 'buy a 10 year old car for 2k and drive it until it falls apart' sort of driver! So a bit out of touch with car prices.

But it'll come. Especially as many car owners are happy to pay monthly. I

But are they close to being affordable? I can’t even afford a secondhand electric car and the cost of electric vehicles is cited as one of the barriers to take-up; it’s unlikely we’ll all switch to driverless cars if we’re all out of a job because of AI.

I really hope your Data Protection information is up to date, I wouldn’t donate to any charity that is going to potentially let AI access to any of my data.

When bridges were built over the Thames the boatmen kicked up a right fuss.

Bloody progress! It’s all run by unscrupulous capitalists.

Self driving cars are close. Very, very close. The progress in this area is astonishing.

Paperless offices are quite easily achievable if they are wanted.

Exactly. Progress always throws people into a panic - I imagine when cars were invented, grooms and coachmen were worried. Same for posties when the telephone took off and, I don’t know, theatre staff when television became everyday probably. But nothing terrible happened, new jobs were created, some survived regardless. Society adapts.

IME we have finally achieved paperless offices, some 20 years after they were promised.

We were promised self driving cars and paperless offices.
Neither of those have happened.

The world population is now at the ageing stagnation phase just before it starts to fall significantly.
Only sub Saharan Africa has a birth rate above replacement.

AI will get rid of lots of jobs that did not exist 50 years ago.
Others will take their place.
Many long standing jobs will carry on the same as they ever did.

I’m close to feeling terrified, tbh. I want to get a mortgage next year but if I lose my job, then what? I could go into a practical, caring profession but there won’t be enough vacancies because there’s going to be people like me desperate for work. The first priority for businesses is profit, so any chance they can get to make roles redundant that very expensive humans are currently doing, they take - I get it. But I have a horrible feeling that within the next ten years there won’t be enough jobs to go round. We are sleepwalking into this horror show.

What I notice in the legal profession is vacancies asking for actual skills in using AI. So there is a role; but it's not being a lawyer. Senior people will love it as they must cut costs in their roles, and they will be incentivised to get their bonus by doing so.

I could do my job with AI, and it would be much faster. That would involve me not to giving it to a junior and letting them do it to develop their skills. If people are paid by results this will become very toxic for young people.

The issue with cutting all the junior/ training level jobs, is where are the people who are going to provide value by checking and editing AI responses actually going to come from with no experience or training?