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To think that moving to London will "fix me"

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Usedphone · 24/01/2025 10:37

Dear MN I've posted about this before, but after 16 years in the UK, I've come to the conclusion that I genuinely don't feel at home, and I don't think I ever will.

I miss the nicer weather, but above it all I think the lack of feeling of belonging is what's dragging me down.

So the idea is that once we move to London, life should be "easier". I'll be able.to work in an office environment and get to see my fellow nationals. I'll also be able to do more activities that I actually enjoy.

My DH thinks it's because I'm looking for people that are 100% like me, and that I'll never find them. I don't think I'm that odd!

I'm just a very career driven (not mummsy at all) lady that really likes performance sports, likes to get into fandoms, would like to celebrate her dog's birthday, go on 5 star holidays, while listening to chill wave!

Because I work remotely, I don't get to see any one and my social skills are completely gone. I'm not outdoorsy and we live on the coast.

My idea of fun would be to join a wine appreciation club (or cheese!). I've tried running clubs but unfortunately I'm swamped with work more often than not, so have zero continuity.

I've also tried with local groups and sometimes there's some interest but when it comes to actually meeting, nobody shows up!

So my last hope is to move to London when we can and see if I can integrate, if not I think I'd rather move back to my birth country, where at least I've got 2 friends.

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Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:25

LaurieFairyCake · 24/01/2025 11:22

Welcome to London Grin

I can only offer my own perspective, it fixed me. 20 years of living somewhere shit for my kids and I was persistently low level depressed and bored. I HATED the small town mentality and there was nothing to do.

The second the last went to uni we moved here (8 years now!) and I have never had one day of low mood. All I can say is that I wish I hadn't lost those 20 years.

Some people are just big city people. I have done 4 'things' in the last week and I reckon I went weeks without leaving the house in the last place.

For some people it isn't 'them', instead it's environmental. For most people reframing and changing perspective helps. Not for me, I just needed to fucking move.

OMG that's me!!! (And our circumstances!) This gives me so much hope!

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LostittoBostik · 24/01/2025 11:24

LaurieFairyCake · 24/01/2025 11:22

Welcome to London Grin

I can only offer my own perspective, it fixed me. 20 years of living somewhere shit for my kids and I was persistently low level depressed and bored. I HATED the small town mentality and there was nothing to do.

The second the last went to uni we moved here (8 years now!) and I have never had one day of low mood. All I can say is that I wish I hadn't lost those 20 years.

Some people are just big city people. I have done 4 'things' in the last week and I reckon I went weeks without leaving the house in the last place.

For some people it isn't 'them', instead it's environmental. For most people reframing and changing perspective helps. Not for me, I just needed to fucking move.

I love posts like these that remind me never to leave when I have a little wobble

Frostynoman · 24/01/2025 11:23

Oxford?

LostittoBostik · 24/01/2025 11:23

Do you have kids? Not clear from your OP. I think that makes a big difference to how you'll experience London. I have different thoughts depending on what life stage you're at

LaurieFairyCake · 24/01/2025 11:22

Welcome to London Grin

I can only offer my own perspective, it fixed me. 20 years of living somewhere shit for my kids and I was persistently low level depressed and bored. I HATED the small town mentality and there was nothing to do.

The second the last went to uni we moved here (8 years now!) and I have never had one day of low mood. All I can say is that I wish I hadn't lost those 20 years.

Some people are just big city people. I have done 4 'things' in the last week and I reckon I went weeks without leaving the house in the last place.

For some people it isn't 'them', instead it's environmental. For most people reframing and changing perspective helps. Not for me, I just needed to fucking move.

Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:22

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/01/2025 11:17

Wimbledon is actually quite a long way out but very nice especially if you are in the village. Clapham has a lot of rich bankers and lawyers depending where you are and some parts are very family focused.

We are in West London (Zone 3) on the Lizzy line so can be in the West End in 15 mins. I work in the City and my commute is around 30 mins.

Even with a decent household income rent for a nice area will be high. Going out is expensive but on the plus side there are great options and public transport is great.

I love London and it would take a lot for me to move away (I have been here over 30 years). I think you should give it a try but be realistic about the costs and that a significant uplift in salary doesn’t necessarily translate into a significant uplift in lifestyle.

Yes our preference is Clapham. There's a few houses that we could currently afford (buying).

We're lucky in the sense that our mortgage is absolutely tiny and the house is worth something, so even though we'll need a mortgage to buy in Clapham, our mortgage would be around £1200 (maybe less) so it's ok

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Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:20

EatingHealthy · 24/01/2025 11:17

I think, given your circumstances, you should do it. Being able to work in an office and interact with diverse, interesting people will make a massive difference even if it takes a while to develop a social circle (and it almost certainly will). Are you going to find people who are just like you? No probably not, but you'll find different people who share different aspects of your personality and interests.

Btw what are 'performance sports'?

Endurance mainly, but I focus a lot on my performance metrics (pace, wattage, etc...)

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Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:18

WoodenFloorboards · 24/01/2025 11:12

She does already have friends in London though. And it can be easier for most of us to make friends with people you have something in common with.

Some gifted and likeable people can make friends with absolutely anyone from any background, and some people are terrible at making friends full stop, but most of us are somewhere in the middle and find it easier to get on with people we have a lot on common with. The OP is far more likely to find these people in a big multicultural city, working face to face with people with a similar skillset.

Yes, that's why I'm hopeful! I have very little in common with the people around me.

Normally you get the people who were born and bred here and love it, and the ones that moved here and love it. I don't love it. I find it boring and isolating.

I have one friend who feels the same and she's desperate to move back to London, but she doesn't know if she can afford it.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/01/2025 11:17

Wimbledon is actually quite a long way out but very nice especially if you are in the village. Clapham has a lot of rich bankers and lawyers depending where you are and some parts are very family focused.

We are in West London (Zone 3) on the Lizzy line so can be in the West End in 15 mins. I work in the City and my commute is around 30 mins.

Even with a decent household income rent for a nice area will be high. Going out is expensive but on the plus side there are great options and public transport is great.

I love London and it would take a lot for me to move away (I have been here over 30 years). I think you should give it a try but be realistic about the costs and that a significant uplift in salary doesn’t necessarily translate into a significant uplift in lifestyle.

hagchic · 24/01/2025 11:17

Go for it. You won't know until you try and if doesn't work out it sounds like you're young enough to manage the change.

Is it just you though? Are there other people in this mix who do not feel the same way or would be affected by moving in a negative way?

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 11:17

WoodenFloorboards · 24/01/2025 11:12

She does already have friends in London though. And it can be easier for most of us to make friends with people you have something in common with.

Some gifted and likeable people can make friends with absolutely anyone from any background, and some people are terrible at making friends full stop, but most of us are somewhere in the middle and find it easier to get on with people we have a lot on common with. The OP is far more likely to find these people in a big multicultural city, working face to face with people with a similar skillset.

OP is part of a WhatsApp group that she has “met a few times” it’s a bit full on to view these as proper friends and it may lead to disappointment on her behalf.

I’ve several WhatsApp groups for various things, hobbies, baby stuff, school stuff etc. Sometimes we meet up but people have their own core friends.

EatingHealthy · 24/01/2025 11:17

I think, given your circumstances, you should do it. Being able to work in an office and interact with diverse, interesting people will make a massive difference even if it takes a while to develop a social circle (and it almost certainly will). Are you going to find people who are just like you? No probably not, but you'll find different people who share different aspects of your personality and interests.

Btw what are 'performance sports'?

WoodenFloorboards · 24/01/2025 11:12

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 11:08

Bluntly your issue is a lack of social circle. London won’t fix that, London won’t automatically give you more friends. In fact it can be easier to be lonely in London than somewhere smaller.

She does already have friends in London though. And it can be easier for most of us to make friends with people you have something in common with.

Some gifted and likeable people can make friends with absolutely anyone from any background, and some people are terrible at making friends full stop, but most of us are somewhere in the middle and find it easier to get on with people we have a lot on common with. The OP is far more likely to find these people in a big multicultural city, working face to face with people with a similar skillset.

Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:12

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 11:08

Bluntly your issue is a lack of social circle. London won’t fix that, London won’t automatically give you more friends. In fact it can be easier to be lonely in London than somewhere smaller.

It would give me more opportunities though (or so I think)

*Expat community
*Religious congregation (which I do attend the local one sometimes attend but the average age is 85). There are a lot of more groups depending of interests that I could attend.
*The work related social life
*Networking events

I find it hard to empathise (neuro divergent) so I do need the common ground to be able to "bond"..

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Snoken · 24/01/2025 11:09

If you can afford London then you should definitely try that. It sounds like you already have more of a social life there the few times a year you go compared to where you live now.

I was also an immigrant living in England and felt much more at home and integrated when I lived in London compared to when I lived in the north. Up north there was nobody else that I knew of that I shared a nationality with but in London there were lots of social groups and events from my home country. There was even food shops and bakeries with food from home. It was a million times easier to live in London. I couldn't move back home due to marriage and kids, but London was the next best thing for sure.

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 11:08

Bluntly your issue is a lack of social circle. London won’t fix that, London won’t automatically give you more friends. In fact it can be easier to be lonely in London than somewhere smaller.

cheezncrackers · 24/01/2025 11:08

Why on earth would being in London allow you to 'celebrate your dog's birthday'??? Surely you would do that privately, or are you planning to hire out a private room in a club? 😂

London is reasonably busy Tues-Thurs. People go out after work a lot less than they did, but there is some work-related socialising and young people (pre-marriage and kids) still go out.

London is very multi-cultural, international, etc, so if you want more of that then yes, you'll feel more at home. It sounds to me though that your biggest issue is WFH, which can be isolating and if you're an extrovert who values going out and socialising then an in-person job will almost certainly give you more of what you need and miss.

Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:06

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/01/2025 11:05

It will really depend where in London you live and what you do for a living.

London is fantastic and can work well if you have a different nationality. DH is North African and has plenty of friends from his home country, can find local food, speak his mother tongue.

However, it is expensive to live here. If you live further out for cost reasons you may find yourself far from the groups you want to mix with and spending a lot of time commuting

We can afford to live centrally (well Clapham/Wimbledon) so that's not a real issue.

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Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:05

MJconfessions · 24/01/2025 11:02

Sorry your post is hard to follow.

What part of the uk has “nicer weather” to miss? It’s all pretty shit!

If you don’t feel at home in the UK after 16 years, why would London be any different? Is it similar to where you lived before?

London has its charm but it certainly won’t fix your problems and comes with its own problems

I miss the weather of my birth country.

And at least it would be a city. I was born and raised in a city of 20+ million my "town" has like 10k people.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/01/2025 11:05

It will really depend where in London you live and what you do for a living.

London is fantastic and can work well if you have a different nationality. DH is North African and has plenty of friends from his home country, can find local food, speak his mother tongue.

However, it is expensive to live here. If you live further out for cost reasons you may find yourself far from the groups you want to mix with and spending a lot of time commuting

MidnightPatrol · 24/01/2025 11:04

WoodenFloorboards · 24/01/2025 10:55

Tell that to the City of London pubs last night. They were all absolutely rammed: Dry January be damned..

Well yes, obviously people drink, but it’s not the same work boozing culture as in the past. All my friends have found the same.

People will still probably be meeting their mates for drinks, and yes having drinks with colleagues. And Thursday is now the ‘big night’ given so many WFH on Fridays.

It does seem very busy this January - dry January obviously less popular than in the past.

MJconfessions · 24/01/2025 11:02

Sorry your post is hard to follow.

What part of the uk has “nicer weather” to miss? It’s all pretty shit!

If you don’t feel at home in the UK after 16 years, why would London be any different? Is it similar to where you lived before?

London has its charm but it certainly won’t fix your problems and comes with its own problems

IsadoraQuagmire · 24/01/2025 11:01

WoodenFloorboards · 24/01/2025 10:55

Tell that to the City of London pubs last night. They were all absolutely rammed: Dry January be damned..

I was thinking that. I don't drink alcohol, so don't usually go inside pubs, but when I walk past pubs in the city any time after late afternoon/early evening, there are always crowds of people standing outside drinking.

Usedphone · 24/01/2025 11:00

FusionChefGeoff · 24/01/2025 10:58

Could you look for an office based role in your nearest town / city first?

The costs of living in London are eye watering...

Unfortunately anything "local" pays about half of my salary. I already had a bit of a pay cut for being fully remote.

The biggest city (which is still 3 hours away) would be a similar salary to my current one.

My role in London is close/north to £100k

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UserSchmoozer33 · 24/01/2025 11:00

If you can afford it, give it a go! Can't be any worse than your current situation. Before kids I did all my socialising through work friends and associated people and it was fun!

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