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Housing association saying I’m unreasonable I don’t think I am !!!

416 replies

HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 08:23

The HA need to do planned repair/upgrade work. The appt slots are 830-1230 or 130-530.
I asked them to book mine around school runs but twice they’ve turned up when I’m out ? Now saying that if they are ‘refused entry’ a third time it will lead to further action???

Surely they have to be fair about this and come at a time that works for everyone

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Kingsleadhat · 24/01/2025 09:22

Although your neighbour wouldn't be able to do the school run could they sit in your house while you do it?

Ameliepoulainandthephotobooth · 24/01/2025 09:22

HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 08:28

There’s nobody else who can do
the school run and no suitable neighbours to ask (one is very elderly , one works nights and the others I hardly see I think they work )

Do you know the elderly neighbour (or anyone) well enough to ask if they could sit at yours while you do the school run?

Travelodge · 24/01/2025 09:21

Winter2020 · 24/01/2025 08:40

I would reply formally in writing - this can be an email but follow up with a posted letter.

State that you are writing in reference to their letter dated xxxx regarding entry to the property.

State all the hours you can accommodate
E.g. 9:30-2.00
And 4-10pm

State that you have no other means to get your child to school and that your offer of these hours has been ignored.

Stare that you have also offered that the housing association can also complete the works without you present and you can provide access via a key safe - and that this has been declined.

State that if they choose to take further action (for example request a warrant of entry via a court or to serve notice) this letter will form your defence of offering reasonable access to the Court and you consider that they the housing association are the ones not making reasonable accommodations rather than you.

Edit to say it wouldn't hurt to call your letter "a complaint" as hhe housing association is likely to have targets to resolve complaints and involve the higher ups who are not so "computer says no".

Edited

I would also add that you can’t take your children to school Breakfast Club earlier as your DC has special needs and needs 1:1 support which is currently unavailable at the club. They probably won't want to be seen to be being unreasonable when there’s a SN child in the equation.

Dotjones · 24/01/2025 09:21

This is the same thing someone who rents privately has to deal with, it's the same thing someone who owns have to deal with if they want work done. Slots are set like this because it helps them manage their day. The customer is expected to bend to accomodate the service provider, not the other way around.

Doggymummar · 24/01/2025 09:21

Unfortunately we all have to make arrangements from time to time. I rent privately and work so I always request the first appointment of the day if something needs doing. The landlord has a key as do the letting agent so, same as you if I were to miss two appointments they would take further action, in this case be here in the house to let the person in. It's never happened tho because we work it out. I generally ask for and get a Saturday appointment or in the evening after 6pm at a push. We needed a new shower recently and they came at 7.30 am to assess and returned on the Saturday to fit it.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 24/01/2025 09:21

Why are you refusing to answer what the repair is for?

Id ignore the comments about free housing: free repairs etc… pointless, unnecessary and frankly pathetic.

FoxInTheForest · 24/01/2025 09:20

romdowa · 24/01/2025 08:33

You'll have to let the school know that you will have to drop the children late on that particular day. Not much else you can do

My friends in a council house and has to stay in the duration of any work being done so this wouldnt work unless its a short job. Can't even pop out to the shop. Guessing it's so the contractors can't be accused of theft.

Startinganew32 · 24/01/2025 09:18

Can your mum not assist at all with this issue then? Either by being in your house when they call round or doing the school run for you?

Landlords are always responsible for repairs - it’s totally normal. I don’t know why people are making an issue of that.

SillyMaker · 24/01/2025 09:18

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HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 09:16

i think people think that everyone in HA property is getting it for free ? I work and I pay rent I do get UC but because I work evening and weekend and my mum does my childcare I’m not even claiming childcare costs . It’s not like I’m ungrateful for my home and for UC I just have to try and fit things around school. I won’t lie I don’t really want the dc off school it’s the only break I get !!

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Coloursofthewind2 · 24/01/2025 09:15

I live in a housing association property and also have to do school runs. My childs school is 10 minutes up the road though so I just leave a note on my front door saying on the school run, back in 10 or something and might come back to a workman waiting at the door. But it is literally 20 minutes for me to get to school and back.

I have also left workmen in my property before to go and pick my child up from school which I wasn't 100% comfortable with but had to be done.

Startinganew32 · 24/01/2025 09:15

DazzlingCuckoos · 24/01/2025 09:12

You mention an elderly neighbour.

Would they come and sit in your home for a short time while you take your DC to school?

Yes I was going to suggest that - get someone to wait in your house if you genuinely can’t get anyone else to do the school run.

But seriously if you want the repairs done then you have to suck up the school attendance thing and stop saying you can’t do it. Loads of kids miss school regularly. Unless someone’s literally off all the time with unauthorised absences, there’s no real consequences - what is the school realistically going to do? Prioritise getting your house sorted out.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 24/01/2025 09:14

Iloveyoubut · 24/01/2025 09:04

repairs are still not free to the tenant. Lucky enough to get one? So you think anyone in a council or housing association house should accept less? Be more grateful? Bow harder? Wow.

Edited

The repairs are paid for by the housing association, so yes they are “free” in the sense that OP is not having to lay out £500 on top of her rent to fix a broken shower etc. Rent is separate and significantly cheaper than market rate.

I don’t think anyone should “accept less” where on earth have you got that from? I made the point we have to work our schedules around tradesmen we pay for as well.

Yes I think people should be grateful to be in receipt of subsidised housing funded in part by the tax payer, is that really a controversial opinion?

adiffer · 24/01/2025 09:14

I had this years ago with HA for a gas boiler check and I didn't let it lie, in the end they gave me an evening appointment.
They are being unreasonable. Don't give in with them

Hedgingmybetching · 24/01/2025 09:14

Winter2020 · 24/01/2025 08:40

I would reply formally in writing - this can be an email but follow up with a posted letter.

State that you are writing in reference to their letter dated xxxx regarding entry to the property.

State all the hours you can accommodate
E.g. 9:30-2.00
And 4-10pm

State that you have no other means to get your child to school and that your offer of these hours has been ignored.

Stare that you have also offered that the housing association can also complete the works without you present and you can provide access via a key safe - and that this has been declined.

State that if they choose to take further action (for example request a warrant of entry via a court or to serve notice) this letter will form your defence of offering reasonable access to the Court and you consider that they the housing association are the ones not making reasonable accommodations rather than you.

Edit to say it wouldn't hurt to call your letter "a complaint" as hhe housing association is likely to have targets to resolve complaints and involve the higher ups who are not so "computer says no".

Edited

This is a really good letter. Well done Winter.

Sorry you're having such difficulty OP and sorry you're being sneered at by some clueless Mumsnetters. Xx Hope it gets sorted.

justbeingasmartarse · 24/01/2025 09:14

GreenYellowBrown · 24/01/2025 09:09

YABVVVU. These people have got jobs to do, you’re not the only person in the world to ever have had a child. They’ve given you a time slot so you need to arrange childcare for that time. Presumably this is being done for free so count yourself lucky rather than moaning.

Edited

Arrange childcare with who though? It doesn’t sound like the OP gas much of a support network.

Serencwtch · 24/01/2025 09:13

Mines the same - it can be a nuisance & waste lots of annual leave waiting in for them. I think it's just something you have to work with in HA & council housing.

You need to weigh up the cost of a few days of unpaid leave or a few hours of extra child care with what you would pay if you moved to private rented. A private landlord would likely be more flexible (but not necessarily)

HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 09:13

DazzlingCuckoos · 24/01/2025 09:12

You mention an elderly neighbour.

Would they come and sit in your home for a short time while you take your DC to school?

No she has carers x3 a day and isn’t well she can’t go out

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DazzlingCuckoos · 24/01/2025 09:12

You mention an elderly neighbour.

Would they come and sit in your home for a short time while you take your DC to school?

IkeaJesusChrist · 24/01/2025 09:12

Our HA offers school run appointments so between 09:15 and 14:45.

Travelodge · 24/01/2025 09:12

HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 08:34

They won’t authorise the absence though as it could end up a whole morning or afternoon off

As long as you don’t have other unauthorised absences, it won’t matter. One unauthorised half-day is not going to be a big deal.

HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 09:11

I’ve emailed the HA to request a time slot 915-1230 I’ve explained in detail (again) I’m hoping someone sympathetic sees it !

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justbeingasmartarse · 24/01/2025 09:11

I don’t think they can guarantee turning up at a particular time. They have a list of jobs to do in various places and work their way through them and they get there when they get there.

I understand this is very difficult if you have no-one to ask to take the kids to school. Maybe speak to the school and explain you will be in late. If they make a fuss ask them what they suggest you do? 🤷‍♀️

HAunreasonable · 24/01/2025 09:10

Ilovemyshed · 24/01/2025 09:07

Just phone the school that morning and tell them the kids have d&v 🤷🏽‍♀️

That’s 48 hrs though they’d have to then have another day off after unless I had the appt on a Friday and I can’t pick the day either !

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HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 24/01/2025 09:10

What’s the repair for?

Tbh it’s a pretty standard appointment times and is part of your tenancy agreement.

If for any compliance repairs then your failure to allow access will lead to court action.

However I would call them up and ask to speak to a manager and explain your circumstances, however if your appointment is for an electrical EIRC they take 4 hrs to complete so they will need access in the stipulated times.