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She doesn't speak English - pointless meeting up

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Dannnyy · 24/01/2025 06:57

My brother recently got engaged, he and his fiancée are coming to visit next week, we have met her briefly but have no relationship with her really.
My parents really want us all to go out for a meal, however she speaks 3 languages none of which are English. I know my brother could just translate and I have school level knowledge of one language. However I think it would be extremely awkward, and just not very fun. Apparently she is learning English but my brother says she's not in any hurry to get "good" at it.

AIBU to think it's pointless meeting for a meal in these circumstances?

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/01/2025 07:50

YABVU

Of course it’s worth meeting up. It will be a bit more difficult but people muddle through.

Are you seriously saying you’ve never spent time with anyone who barely speaks English before and have no experience of making conversation work with either someone translating, muddling through with bits of each other’s language or (these days) google translate or similar.

Many of the richest experiences of spending time with others can be in this sort of scenario.

And the language you speak a bit - can you try to improve that with some Duolingo language or similar?

Summerbay23 · 24/01/2025 07:49

Yep, totally unreasonable.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 07:49

My FIL was Polish. The relatives live in very rural Poland and only one of them speaks English. None of us speak Polish.

We visit them every few years, and are very fond of them. If the English speaker is around, he translates for us. If he's at work and unavailable, we all smile a lot and my SIL dredges up random bits of Polish vocabulary (single words) that she's gathered over the years. We have a lovely time.

PurpleThistle7 · 24/01/2025 07:47

Well this is a depressing thing to read. Your poor brother.

SallySesame · 24/01/2025 07:47

She speaks three languages, all of which are commonly taught in UK schools, and yet you don’t know a few words of any of them? And aren’t prepared to learn?

Zonder · 24/01/2025 07:46

She will have learned some English at school for sure. But she probably just doesn't speak it well - like your average Brit with their school french.

However I'm wondering if this is a reverse and making a point about Brits going abroad with no local language. That's very common!

Tumblingthrough · 24/01/2025 07:46

Is this a wind-up?

MandyFriend · 24/01/2025 07:44

YABU! I think you're being very short-sighted and unfriendly. This is the lady your brother loves and wants to marry. Of course wants to introduce her to his family so you can all get to know her. If she already speaks four languages, she must have an ear for them and the chances are she's probably already trying to learn English. You could even learn some phrases in her language to make her feel welcome. Nothing too complicated, just a hello and welcome to the family kind of thing.

Just go along with an open mind and a kind heart, because it looks like she's going to be around for a while. Do you really want to be labelled the a-hole sister who wouldn't go to a special family dinner because it was going to be a bit boring?!

Maddy70 · 24/01/2025 07:44

Jesus. Really?

WhatNoRaisins · 24/01/2025 07:44

It sounds like you and your brother aren't close if it met his partner at a wedding and made little attempt to speak to them. I'd have thought you'd have been curious to meet her. It's up to you how much you want to put yourself out for someone you aren't close with.

AndromacheAstyanax · 24/01/2025 07:43

Do meet her! She’s joining your family after all. Put your school-level language to work (we really must value language education more!).

Stravaig · 24/01/2025 07:43

You don't need to share a language to communicate! Just being together, gestures, body language, facial expressions, atmosphere, these all work fine, in fact they will all be heightened if verbal communication is tricky.

As it happens, you DO share a language, just one that you're not very good at.

Your brother is going to marry this person, so I suggest you start learning her native language. Right now. You could master some basic phrases in the week before this dinner, and your efforts would go a long way to making her feel welcome.

Or start improving the language you do share. The absolute state of you judging her lack of English when you are so linguistically lazy yourself!

One of my favourite, relaxing, cosy things is eating out with others, surrounded by languages I don't really understand, basking in warmth and laughter and good food and conviviality. Home.

Don't be scared, OP. Just try it. And get a wiggle on with DuoLingo or similar in the meantime.

LegoHouse274 · 24/01/2025 07:43

reichs79 · 24/01/2025 07:42

This can't be serious...

Reads a bit like a reverse

Tipperttruck · 24/01/2025 07:43

I had this situation. I went a long, tried to include her as much as possible but naturally spoke to my family member too. The woman then went absolutely crazy and stormed out because we had spoken in English a few times. It was horribly tense and the relationship was never repaired.

brunettemic · 24/01/2025 07:42

I’m surprised he even wants you to meet her given how awful you sound.

reichs79 · 24/01/2025 07:42

This can't be serious...

SeaUrchinHat · 24/01/2025 07:42

Yeah why bother with someone who doesn’t speak English OP. Bloody hell. I imagine she’s not in a hurry to meet up with you either if this is any indication of your general attitude (undoubtedly your brother has already warned her). Would you have anything in common with a tri-linguist anyway? She sounds very accomplished.

Kurokurosuke · 24/01/2025 07:41

Totally unreasonable. Friends and family are the main reasons people become proficient in other languages. And communication comes in many ways.

Dannnyy · 24/01/2025 07:41

Perhaps my parents are exaggerating how little English she speaks, my mum made it out like she knows little past hi/bye.

I've "met" her before, but it was at a wedding and we didn't say much past hi or bye.

Others have agreed that it would be odd for someone who is from her region wouldn't know any English at all.

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sjs42 · 24/01/2025 07:40

Op come on. It’s 2025. Use your phone. You can talk at it and it’ll speak to her in any language you want.

RampantIvy · 24/01/2025 07:39

Dannnyy · 24/01/2025 07:23

Okay I appreciate I'm being unreasonable.

I've never left the uk, not even on holiday and I live in a very homogenous small northern town where there are very few non English people let alone non English speaking people. So this is a new experience for me.

Royston Vasey? 😁

I live in a small northern village, but the local inhabitants aren't as inward looking and xenophobic as you are.

Have you never wanted to expand your horizons?

PigInAHouse · 24/01/2025 07:38

YRGAM · 24/01/2025 07:34

I understand the sentiment but English is in a category of its own as the global lingua franca. Especially in Europe, I think it's reasonable to select English as the most likely shared language to hold a conversation in, so comparing her not knowing English to him not knowing Fr/De/It isn't a fair comparison, in my opinion.

I didn’t say anything about the OP not knowing Fr/De/It, just commenting that she hasn’t bothered to learn a single other language (whatever that may be) but seems disgruntled that her brother’s partner hasn’t learned English on top of the 3 languages she already speaks.
As I said, my (European) BIL doesn’t speak any English. I don’t speak any of his language. However I speak a decent amount of French, as does he, so we get by.
So many English people don’t bother learning any other languages because they just assume everyone else will speak theirs. Well the OP has now realised that’s not the case.

Ameliepoulainandthephotobooth · 24/01/2025 07:37

You sound incredibly ignorant.

MassiveSalad22 · 24/01/2025 07:37

What do you mean by ‘worth it’ though? Makes it sound like you think this SIL is provided for your own entertainment.

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 24/01/2025 07:37

YABU - unless you don’t have any sort of relationship with your brother? She will be your SIL. Are you going to avoid her forever because ‘it’s not worth it’ as you don’t speak the same language???

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