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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:59

MorrisZapp · 23/01/2025 14:20

Many cohabiting couples have a joint account, into which they pay a percentage of their income based on proportion. This is standard and unremarkable stuff. On what basis do you want it kept secret? And how do you even know they discussed such a mundane topic?

Because he told me? Do you generally keep all the concern you have with other people secret from your partner? It would be weird if he kept this from me.

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RebelliousStarrChild · 23/01/2025 14:58

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:54

Wait wait wait!! Everyone on here is so upset that I’m bothered that my fiancé shared his financial information with his mother I just assumed British must be much more open to that sort of thing. And in actuality they are LESS open.

It's not about British vs American.
It's more that he speaks to his mum everyday and you your parents once a week. You can't force him to change his relationship with his mum to satisfy your standard.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:57

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 14:17

Absolutely I can say as his partner, “hey babe I would appreciate it if our financial set up as a couple stayed between us.”

You can intersperse as many ‘babes’ in
to your demands as you want, it doesn’t make it any less controlling.

he isn’t respecting my comfort level.

He wants to sound his mum out about finances, why can’t you respect his comfort level?

If this was solely his account then I would agree. Like things with his truck sure he can tell his mom all about that financial and all till the cows come home. But sorry no an account that has my name on it I absolutely have say over.

So it is about him paying more than you into the joint account.

I wish people would talk to their parents more, it would save some people from ceding financial power to a partner.

Nope sorry if we are both on the account this needs to be both discussed together or if I’m not comfortable with at not discussed ar all with his mother. My fiancé shows he is very in love with me why would he want to go to a biased party?? He wants financial advice great that’s what non biased parties like financial advisors are for. The fact he did this behind my back makes me question things

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NameChangedOfc · 23/01/2025 14:57

The one thing we disagree about is his mother.

Oh, dear...
First of all YANBU: you feel as if your mil is the third in the relationship because, at least for your fiance, she is.
The major issue here is the need of your fiance to overshare with his mother: that to me indicates a very enmeshed and unhealthy relationship between them (he's 29!).
I strongly advice you to not let this fall through the cracks, so to speak. There's clearly an issue that, if not dealt with correctly, will blow up your relationship.
Good luck!

Cluedoless · 23/01/2025 14:56

Op no you can't win on here because you are being completely unreasonable and you are getting more unreasonable able with every post.

Controlling what he talks about with his mum is wrong

If you work full time but also do the lion share of housework that's wrong too.

One wrong doesnt excuse the other wrong. And just because i think you are wrong about the first thing I don't think the second thing makes it any better

One thing has got nothing to do with the other.

Op I'd also say that wanting to be the number one woman in his life just sounds weird to me. It's not a competition and you don't own each other. It's just all overly intense and dramatic.

If I was his mum I wouldn't think that your finances are a problem but if you come across as possessive and controlling in real life as you do here then I'd be worried for my son.

You are still very young and I remember when I was in my twenties me, dh and lots of friends probably confused being possessive abd controlling with passion and love. Twenties years later I know it's not. Possessiveness and wanting to control kill love. Most of us thankfully quickly outgrew that and learnt that real love and healthy relationships are based on respect and tolerance.

HollyKnight · 23/01/2025 14:55

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:51

But he didn’t even tell me he was going to share OUR financial info. You want financial advice that’s what an unbiased party like a financial advisor is for. I should be part of that discussion when it involves me as his future wife. The fact he didn’t involve me and went behind my back is telling. He has to know it’s his mother so naturally she is biased in favor of him so why would he do that to me?

Jeez. Seriously? He didn't go behind your back. They didn't arrange to formally discuss your finances. This wasn't a conspiracy. They were just having a conversation.

What is your relationship like with your own parents?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:54

FunkyColdMargarita · 23/01/2025 14:14

This exact same scenario (from the mother's perspective) came up two days ago. In fact, I'm 50/50 on if you're trolling or not, but just in case you aren't.

The fact that you used "mom" is a red flag to a bull on MN. It's a perfect normal word in many parts of the UK but they assume you're American and therefore decide to be arseholes in their responses to you.

Basically on the last thread the mother was told in no uncertain words to butt the hell out and that she was too involved. So it would reason that most people would actually agree with you if they hadn't decided to be twats

As previous posters have said the British do not share financial information as freely as Americans which is exactly why you know the answers being given to you are ludicrous.

Mother in law should butt out and your boyfriend should keep it private now that you have asked him to. You're allowed to have boundaries, that doesn't make you "creepy" or anything else that has been said.

You want this out of the way now before you have kids and he's telling her about your mucus plug.

Wait wait wait!! Everyone on here is so upset that I’m bothered that my fiancé shared his financial information with his mother I just assumed British must be much more open to that sort of thing. And in actuality they are LESS open.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 14:54

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:50

Why? He is enmeshed with his mother.

If he is enmeshed with his mother then how are you and him a team?

Whoarethoseguys · 23/01/2025 14:53

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:40

What would my fiancé be offended about? What am I implying?

You are implying that your boyfriend can't have a close and loving relationship with his mother.
If you have children I think you might think differently.
The mother child relationship is close and special and it doesn't go away just because the child is grown up and in a relationship.
You sound as though you resent your boyfriend's relationship with his mother and I think that's sad. He is allowed to love you both it doesn't need to be a competition.
I say that as someone married to someone who was extremely close to his mother (she is now dead) . At times she drove me crazy but she was his mother he loved her and it was right that she continued to have an important place in his life marriage didn't change that

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 14:53

He has to know it’s his mother so naturally she is biased in favor of him so why would he do that to me?

This only applies if you think your best interests are at odds to his.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:52

poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 14:47

Exactly what I'm thinking.

Why am I not his confident when we been together so long?

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:51

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 14:13

You are being controlling.

According to you he always put you first.

Now because of this you are crying and needing time alone?

It's not a big deal to talk about these things in the states. Americans are much more open than others.

And if he wants to discuss the financial setup why is that bad? Maybe he does want advice? He's allowed to ask and share.

This would be a huge red flag to me in terms of having a controlling future spouse.

Not sure why she has to be lonely for your fiancee to talk to her?

But he didn’t even tell me he was going to share OUR financial info. You want financial advice that’s what an unbiased party like a financial advisor is for. I should be part of that discussion when it involves me as his future wife. The fact he didn’t involve me and went behind my back is telling. He has to know it’s his mother so naturally she is biased in favor of him so why would he do that to me?

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PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 14:51

Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

Do you also source his socks and undies?

Stop doing all the housework, you’re mothering him, which is why you resent his real mother.

MillyVannily · 23/01/2025 14:51

OP, I have been very dependant on my parents money in the past and even then I didn't share details on our financial setup between my and my OH with them. I would be upset as well if my OH discussed in such detail with his mom. I see I'm in the minority but I don't think you are wrong or hysterical ...

RebelliousStarrChild · 23/01/2025 14:51

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:46

Oh give it time I’m sure that’s next. It’s a slippery slope with enmeshed mothers and sons.

If this is truly how you feel then you are both not as ready to get married as you think you are.

He loves his mum and wants to speak to her everyday, your intention is to change that and put restrictions on their relationship. You might love him but you clearly don't completely understand him.

You are upset at the moment because you feel attacked, but when you calm down you should try to re-evaluate your relationship and the issues you are having more honestly. This is definitely the type of issue that can ruin a marriage long term.

AliceInWonderland24 · 23/01/2025 14:51

Telling her an out your finances is the least of your problems OP. Complete enmeshment is. Wait until DC come along…

SomethingElseAgain · 23/01/2025 14:51

I am a woman and have a close relationship with my mother. We don't talk every day but I trust her more than essentially anyone on earth and know she has my best interests at heart and is very discreet. I also have an extremely happy and long-term marriage.

I would not be at all happy if my husband suddenly started dictating what I can and cannot speak to my mother about, bar information that affects only him and not me (though it is hard to imagine what that would be!) For his part he wouldn't want to deprive me of her support or get in the way of our candour. I afford him the same courtesy.

That said, we each have good relationships with each other's parents too so this would all be part of the same supportive family dynamic.

What are your feelings about his mother aside from this? Because I'm getting the sense that this is the tip of the iceberg of a much bigger back-story and problem, either re your relationship with her and/or re a lack of closeness and support from your own family that might be worth exploring to make sure it doesn't scupper you down the line.

It's very untraditional for a Brit to be wondering if an American family is a bit repressed and distant, but there we are!

I think it might be worth thinking about bit deeper about what underpins all of this.

I wish you all the best!

ChonkyRabbit · 23/01/2025 14:50

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:29

Yes I work full time but apparently the majority of mumsnet think it’s ok for my fiancé to invite his mother into our private finances and I don’t have a say in any of it. And that his mother has a right to butt into her adult son’s future marriage. And apparently they think we should split the finances down to the exact T and live as roommates rather than a romantically involved couple about to be married. I should accept his mother being the third person in our relationship. And his mother should come before me. Oh and forget the fact I was with my fiance for years before he was established in his career and supported every career move he made since then including leaving my home town and family and friends without question to be with him that emotional support and proof of love and commitment means nothing. The only thing that matters is we don’t make the exact same amount therefore I’m using him for his money.

haha all that being said I don’t mind cleaning the whole house as that’s another way I contribute to the household.

What a drama llama! I hope that other poster is your MIL because you deserve each other.

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 14:50

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:46

Oh give it time I’m sure that’s next. It’s a slippery slope with enmeshed mothers and sons.

It’s really not.
Perhaps move on, this clearly isn’t the relationship for you. It sounds like he wants a very typical relationship with his mother and that’s an issue for you. It might suit to look for a future partner who has no close family.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:50

smellydog1 · 23/01/2025 14:13

He needs to run for the hills

Why? He is enmeshed with his mother.

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HollyKnight · 23/01/2025 14:50

Did his mother actually say anything about your setup or have you just imagined a whole scenario in your head? You talk about her as if she is your rival. That is not going to go well.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:49

FunkyColdMargarita · 23/01/2025 14:37

You really will mind if you choose to have kids in the future. Start as you mean to go on. It's difficult to know just how much extra work is already heaped on to women after children until you experience it.

You're going to get abused because MN doesn't like Americans. Its the one country they feel comfortable being open about it.

ok that checks out then. I was genuinely confused as to why they thought a partnership should involve bean counting and splitting things down the middle as if we were roommates. If anything it’s a lot more uncommon to find a partner you connect with where you both make exactly the same. I’m curious on here if there was never a time in their relationship where they made less then their partner or where the pendulum didn’t swing in the other direction. Maybe the focus should be on asking why teachers are so underpaid for all the work they do

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nam3c4ang3 · 23/01/2025 14:49

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:44

Also his mom doesn’t treat us equal at all! Despite that I’ve been with him since we were very young and shown a lot of support to her son through his move and everything. Never reaches out to me only talks to her son. I read on here about MILs or soon to be MILs starting to include both in texts or reaching out to the DIL. My birthday rolls around no acknowledgment. She will travel and get just my fiancé something. Christmas even though we live together and are engaged to be married doesn’t acknowledge us as a couple just addresses cards to my fiance individually. When she visits never tries to foster any sort of independent relationship with me. Yes I’ve reached out to her always gotten her a nice Xmas gift and birthday gift

Ahhhh... the drip feed. You dont like her. Fair enough. Should have opened with that in the original post OP.

Thisismetooaswell · 23/01/2025 14:48

Calmhappyandhealthy · 23/01/2025 13:44

Dear lord! What a drama !

If there's things you want kept private from his mother, or anyone, discuss these things with him.....explain how you feel....LISTEN to how he feels.

And compromise.

You know.....like adults

Don't cry and need "alone time"

🙄

I think this is the problem tbh. 19 is very young to meet the person you settle down with. I wouldn't be happy at all if my daughter married someone she met at 19 without ever having another adult relationship (although I am aware there would be nothing I could do about it)

poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 14:48

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:46

Oh give it time I’m sure that’s next. It’s a slippery slope with enmeshed mothers and sons.

If you feel that way, why are you there?

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