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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Sofasogreat · 23/01/2025 15:16

You say he's enmeshed, that he's looking for biased opinion from his mother, and that you do all the house care. You're still young, OP - maybe this relationships will work out really well and AIBU are just being vipers, or maybe you'll look back in years to come and be really glad this site made you think about what you really want if you later on have children or caring responsibilities and might be bringing in little or nothing financially.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:15

When I first started living with DH (who is American and I am not) I shared all the details with my own mum. Not because I am ‘enmeshed’ with her but because she was a professionally successful woman who taught me that I must never be dependent. Now I was marrying someone who would always earn more (he’s a doctor, I am an academic in the humanities) and I wanted to hear her opinion as a woman and my mum about this. And she did suggest a few things I could do financially to protect myself further (also given that I was the one living in a foreign country). My mum was more than 13 hours away btw. Had DH ‘forbidden’ me from speaking to my mum about our finances I would have really wondered why and it would have been a huge red flag.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 15:15

What's wrong with someone being best friends with their mom?

Also you keep saying he's overly emeshed but now you say he's normal.

And why do you keep talking about unbiased opinions? Has his mother said you don't contribute enough? Has your fiancee said that?

You are freaking out about nothing and changing the narrative to suit your needs.

And you sound really jealous of his mom.

TheseCalmSeas · 23/01/2025 15:15

I think you’re over reacting and are being a bit controlling.

Also, I wouldn’t dream of this setup pre marriage.

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:46

Oh give it time I’m sure that’s next. It’s a slippery slope with enmeshed mothers and sons.

Here it is. You sound overly dramatic and manipulative with this fantastical slippery slope stuff where you're now blaming him for stuff that he hadn't done yet and isn't in the same league as this issue.

You sound fixated, somewhat obsessive, and in competition with his mom, ie wanting to be his best friend and not his mom. Your husband can be close to more than one person, it's not a contest. She gave him life FFS.

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 15:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:09

In what way am I your worst nightmare? Only
of sons not of daughters? Why!

Do you think you chose which sex you’re the mother of?

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 15:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:40

What would my fiancé be offended about? What am I implying?

Well just a reminder of the general gist of what you are saying:

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage.

I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

I mean metaphorically his mother is living in our pocket with open access to our lives at any given time served up on a silver platter by my fiance.

It invites unsolicited advice or opinions which can cause issues.

I just don’t want her living in our places.

What good can come out of his mother who naturally is a biased party having access to that?

That’s what I worry about in our future him inviting his mother into our marriage by telling her things that aren’t her business. Like what is he hoping to accomplish by doing that? I’m worried he is trying to seek her approval.

Just not sure why he feels his mother is owed an exact financial breakdown.

Breaking down as a nearly married man every detail of our financial set up is not healthy.

Basically you are inferring that she is trying to prise this information out of him intent on using it against you, so instead of seeing it as a perfectly normal mother son relationship (this sort of relationship is extremely common with daughters to be fair), speaking about a topic which seems to have come up naturally in conversation. You are instead accusing her of trying to interfere in your lives, by influencing her son outside of your 'control', even though you have not offered any evidence that she does interfere or uses anything that he shares with her against you or anything really, they lives 100s of miles away from each other and share their lives, millions of people live like this and there is nothing negative about it, it is purely a loving, supportive and close familial relationship.

You are jealous of the close relationship he has with his mum and instead of accepting that is part of who he is (which it is and always has been), you are now using emotional manipulation to try and put a stop to it, so you can have him all to yourself. It is controlling and abusive to saboutage your partners relationships outside of you as a couple and to isolate them from their family, which is basically what you are trying to do here.

There may be a reason why she is keeping you at arms length to be honest, you sound incredibly possessive and jealous, but as long as she isn't interfering in your day to day lives then there is room for him to have a mother relationship alongside a wife relationship.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:12

Wexone · 23/01/2025 14:40

Plenty of my friends tell their mother everything, my sister being one of them, she talks to her numerous times a day as well as spend weekends with her. Women have their mother with them at birth, have them stay for weeks on end to help at home, and people will say this is normal , Some women tell their mothers every detail of their sex life finances etc. Why is it ok for women to be best friends with their mother but not a man to be best friends with their mother ? If you don't like it dump him find someone else

He can do both aswell you know

Who wants to be with a man child who is best friends with mommy? No woman in their right mind would sign up for that. Luckily my fiancé is normal and considers me his best friend.

and the mother staying with woman isn’t comparable. The man’s body didn’t just go through a traumatic event such as giving birth. Where their hormones are all over the place and their body is forever changed. Let’s not act like child birth has the same effect on men and women when men contribute what? 2 seconds to the pregnancy process oh yeah and ten get praised for doing the bare minimim
as a father

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MollyRover · 23/01/2025 15:12

I will tell anyone who's interested what the financial setup is. No amounts or who earns more but I'm happy to share the practical information on how we manage it. Almost no one is interested so I don't share it a lot. I couldn't be more distant from my parents but I'm happy to enlighten them if they want to know. I'm not British or American.

You're massively blowing this out of proportion.

Maurepas · 23/01/2025 15:10

But OP - deep down are you actually controlling? Finances are a big part of anyone's life so no surprise his mother is interested in the set up. He may tell her all and everything about you or he may not. He probably feels at liberty to do so.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:09

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:40

I think you need to seriously consider your relationship. You want him to be something he isn't by the sounds of it. You haven't shown where your mother in law is "enmeshed" any more than being a loving parent. She hasn't begged him for the information, or cried when he wouldn't share - it's sounding like he told her off his own back. Maybe buy a notebook so you can list the rules for your partner.

To be honest, as a mother of sons, you really are my worst nightmare!

In what way am I your worst nightmare? Only
of sons not of daughters? Why!

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NameChangedOfc · 23/01/2025 15:09

@FunkyColdMargarita is right, the rest is pure madness

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 15:09

Montymorency · 23/01/2025 15:07

home delivery meals 5 times a week?! does his mother know?

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poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 15:08

If he was my friend, I'd advise him to have a fuck off fund, the same way women are told to have on here. You come off controlling and intense.

Montymorency · 23/01/2025 15:07

home delivery meals 5 times a week?! does his mother know?

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 15:05

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:57

Nope sorry if we are both on the account this needs to be both discussed together or if I’m not comfortable with at not discussed ar all with his mother. My fiancé shows he is very in love with me why would he want to go to a biased party?? He wants financial advice great that’s what non biased parties like financial advisors are for. The fact he did this behind my back makes me question things

You seem to see-saw between ‘we’re a team and unit’ and ‘he’s enmeshed with his mum/confidante’.

The cracks are beginning to appear in your relationship because you’re too intense about engineering the perfect team unit.

Autumn38 · 23/01/2025 15:05

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:12

Yes but when I’m half of that financial set up. Absolutely I can say as his partner, “hey babe I would appreciate it if our financial set up as a couple stayed between us.” That’s communication in a relationship and setting a boundary. Now obviously I’m not around for every conversation he has with his mother but a good and loving partner would respect something that makes his fiance uncomfortable. So if he responds and says, “no my mom has a right to know about our finances” then I have a much bigger problem on my hand that he isn’t respecting my comfort level. If this was solely his account then I would agree. Like things with his truck sure he can tell his mom all about that financial and all till the cows come home. But sorry no an account that has my name on it I absolutely have say over.

What if he said ‘I have a right to discuss things about my life with people I love’ what would you do then?

I don’t tell my mum things because she ‘has a right to know’. I tell her things because I want to. If my partner tried to stop me doing that I’d find it controlling.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 23/01/2025 15:04

@ThisQuickJadeWasp are you the future dil to the mother who is currently discussing how her son and future dil are handling their finances???

Gcsunnyside23 · 23/01/2025 15:03

You're being over the top, he's not gave details just how you're set up. I've discussed this with people at work when talking at how people split things differently, it's not exposing and not a big deal in my opinion.
It comes more down to you're jealous of his relationship with his mum. Honestly I don't think it weird to talk to your mum every day, I don't but I know loads that do and they think it's weird I don't. Different strokes for different folk and all that. What's wrong with discussing day to day life like things you're doing around the home? That's so normal.
Honestly op youre the one that sounds overbearing, he's not 'exposing' you and having general chit chat, how would you like it if he started policing how much you called your friends or family?

RebelliousStarrChild · 23/01/2025 15:02

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:57

Nope sorry if we are both on the account this needs to be both discussed together or if I’m not comfortable with at not discussed ar all with his mother. My fiancé shows he is very in love with me why would he want to go to a biased party?? He wants financial advice great that’s what non biased parties like financial advisors are for. The fact he did this behind my back makes me question things

Where did he say he wanted or asked for financial advice? He said it was mentioned in passing. You are making it bigger to justify telling him how to behave in future, that is very controlling.

Moveoverdarlin · 23/01/2025 15:02

But there is nothing you are doing that billions of other married couples aren’t doing. You share finances. Big fucking deal. What’s the big surprise? He hasn’t told his mother anything really.

Your post is so long, but the crux of it is young couple, due to be married, have a joint account and share money. The man told his mother.

Am I missing something? He didn’t tell her your favourite position. What’s the problem??

Cluedoless · 23/01/2025 15:01

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:44

Also his mom doesn’t treat us equal at all! Despite that I’ve been with him since we were very young and shown a lot of support to her son through his move and everything. Never reaches out to me only talks to her son. I read on here about MILs or soon to be MILs starting to include both in texts or reaching out to the DIL. My birthday rolls around no acknowledgment. She will travel and get just my fiancé something. Christmas even though we live together and are engaged to be married doesn’t acknowledge us as a couple just addresses cards to my fiance individually. When she visits never tries to foster any sort of independent relationship with me. Yes I’ve reached out to her always gotten her a nice Xmas gift and birthday gift

So this is the actual issue. Controlling what he discusses with his mum will not change how she treats you and I'd focus my energy on how she treats you as that doesn't sound nice. So maybe talk to your partner about how you feel his mum acts as if you are not family (or are not going to be family) rather than the nonsense about what he can or cant discuss with her.

SomethingElseAgain · 23/01/2025 15:00

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:54

Wait wait wait!! Everyone on here is so upset that I’m bothered that my fiancé shared his financial information with his mother I just assumed British must be much more open to that sort of thing. And in actuality they are LESS open.

I mean, there are over 68m of us. We're not a homogeneous lump!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:00

MsMarch · 23/01/2025 14:26

The question for me would be WHY is he telling her. If it's general chit chat, I personally wouldn't be upset about that and it's HIS finances so he can share it - just like he can share HIS health concerns or whatever.

If it' sbecause he wants her advice or so that she can offer alternative suggestions, then no, I don't think it's okay.

I don't really have much insight into how much my friends and family earn, but I'd say I have a pretty good idea of how finances are split between most of the couples I know. it's not normally that big a secret.

Nope it’s our finances so it’s joint so something there involves me as well I get a say on

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poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 15:00

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:52

Why am I not his confident when we been together so long?

Probably because he can tell you think he's too close to his mother. It's OK to have more than one person you confide in. And it's OK for him, too.

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