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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 15:29

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:25

Nope mothers and particularly mother of sons are biased no matter what.

What do you think the difference is between a mother and a mother of sons?

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:29

I'm sorry if I was harsh op. I understand that it's frustrating if he hadn't stood up for you to his mom and that she hasn't made an effort, or perhaps he doesn't acknowledge this to her or ask her to treat you like a person too.

Growlybear83 · 23/01/2025 15:27

I think you've over reacted massively. Why does it matter that your fiancé has told his mother how you've agreed to run your finances? He's obviously close to her, and it sounds like you're really jealous of his relationship with his mum and you sound very controlling. It's not unusual for children to be close with one or both of their parents - it was very rare that a day passed without me speaking to my mum when she was alive and I also talked to my dad several times each week. Our finances weren't a secret and my dad always knew exactly how much we earned and who paid for what. Your fiancé has every bit as much of a right to talk to his mum about things like that as you have to choose mot to discuss this with your parents. It's also natural to chat to someone about what you're doing in your house. I don't agree that people in the US are more reserved about discussing finances - British people are notoriously reserved about things like how much they earn etc. I don't see the issue at all.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:26

Also no my mother for a while didn’t ’make an effort’ because he was a stranger to her. She lived on the other side of the world and he was a grainy person on Skype. She was perfectly polite but it would have been weird for her to buy birthday presents for him! When she met him she was perfectly nice to him (although she muttered to me that he was too thin and it was all his vegetarianism that was to blame, and that I should sneak some meat into his food- obviously I ignored that).

Because of the distance and expense of travelling what my mum knew about DH as my boyfriend was mediated through what I told her. So unless your boyfriend is actively bitching about you I don’t see the problem!

LemonKitten · 23/01/2025 15:25

I think what a lot of people have missed is that you hadn't explicitly asked him not to share info in your finances.

If you had, he would be in the wrong.

Because you hadn't until it actually happened, he's not in the wrong.

Even couples very much in love don't have the same opinion on everything. You presumed he felt the same as you. He didn't.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:25

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 14:53

He has to know it’s his mother so naturally she is biased in favor of him so why would he do that to me?

This only applies if you think your best interests are at odds to his.

Nope mothers and particularly mother of sons are biased no matter what.

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Wexone · 23/01/2025 15:25

Ohnonotmeagain · 23/01/2025 15:18

Me. 🤷‍♀️

dh called his parents every day. They have a great relationship. It is possible to have a great relationship with your parents AND have a good marriage.

when his mum was dying he brought her to live with us and cared for her every day. It was hard but I know if every I need that kind of care he will be there to take care of me til the end.

think about it, when you have kids do you want them to grow up, find partners and then never really speak to you beyond pleasantries?

one of my children has moved away and they call nearly every day for a chat and to tell me about their lives. I love hearing from them and wouldn’t want it any other way.

Similar in my house, we lived very close to in laws, my husband sees his mother nearly every day. They would have known some details of our Finances as the have very generously helped us out in the past, we have since paid them back but it was a big help at the time and by no means interfered in our relationship.

MsMarch · 23/01/2025 15:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:00

Nope it’s our finances so it’s joint so something there involves me as well I get a say on

Yes, that's what you believe. I understand that. My view is different. I think it's okay for him to, broadly, discuss this with his mother. BUT not if it's a way to control you or if she's judging you or getting involved or if his decision making is impacted by her views.

And if she's not very welcoming to you, then I understand even more why your view is different. You don't feel like you're freeloading. I don't think you're freeloading. But as she hasn't exactly made you feel part of the family, I can easily imagine thaty ou are concerned that she will have opinions, and ones that aren't very flattering at that.

Gcsunnyside23 · 23/01/2025 15:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:49

ok that checks out then. I was genuinely confused as to why they thought a partnership should involve bean counting and splitting things down the middle as if we were roommates. If anything it’s a lot more uncommon to find a partner you connect with where you both make exactly the same. I’m curious on here if there was never a time in their relationship where they made less then their partner or where the pendulum didn’t swing in the other direction. Maybe the focus should be on asking why teachers are so underpaid for all the work they do

I actually agree, my husband and I lump all our money in the same account and sort it from there. It's been this way since he earned 3 times what I did and now that I outearn him. It's just easier when you have kids and saving etc but doesnt work for everyone.
I get your situation now with the drop feed that you and mil don't seem to have a relationship. I'd feel a bit resentful her knowing anything if she didn't even speak to or acknowledge me too.
Have you spoke to your fiancé about this? This will be a big spanner on your relationship

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:24

HollyKnight · 23/01/2025 14:50

Did his mother actually say anything about your setup or have you just imagined a whole scenario in your head? You talk about her as if she is your rival. That is not going to go well.

I asked him what she said bc I said if she is influencing him in our relationship that’s a problem and he said she was just like oh ok.

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Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

So you wouldn’t care about your DIL/SIL (because your son could be gay that’s why I add SIL as well) and their feelings? WOW you would be a nightmare MIL

Nowhere in this paragraph did op say she wouldn't care about their partner. You aren't listening to what people say not are you arguing in good faith. This is irrational and manipulative op.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:21

DH also called his mom every day and then his parents came to live with us just before COVID. Which I am very glad they did otherwise we wouldn’t have seen much of FIL in the last years of his life. DH is very close to his mom. I don’t see that as a threat to me. I mean, she’s a little mad in her own way- but so was my mom. We have healthy functional relationships with each other and with each other’s in laws. My dad is now alone after my mom died and yes I also speak to him everyday. Sometimes more than once a day!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:20

nam3c4ang3 · 23/01/2025 14:49

Ahhhh... the drip feed. You dont like her. Fair enough. Should have opened with that in the original post OP.

It’s not that I don’t like her it’s that she makes no effort with me. Yet my fiancé despite how she treats me continues to talk to her everyday because saying her treatment of his future wife is ok.

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Grammarnut · 23/01/2025 15:20

Is his mum @BittySpider ? Her maths is no good. I'd ignore her.

Oioisavaloy27 · 23/01/2025 15:20

Good lord what a lot of drama over absolutely nothing! I really feel for the man you are living with if he can't even speak to his mother.

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 15:20

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

Interesting also that you only mention your sons guess you could give two shits if your daughter and Joe often she speaks to you??

You sound less American and more British!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:45

Go on and on about what?

I want my sons to be allowed to speak to me as often as they want to. Not as often as their partner will allow. If my son wants to speak to me about how they sort their finances, I want him to be allowed to. I don't want my sons to be controlled by any partner and certainly not guilt tripped.

Interesting also that you only mention your sons guess you could give two shits if your daughter and Joe often she speaks to you??

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poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 15:18

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:14

Here it is. You sound overly dramatic and manipulative with this fantastical slippery slope stuff where you're now blaming him for stuff that he hadn't done yet and isn't in the same league as this issue.

You sound fixated, somewhat obsessive, and in competition with his mom, ie wanting to be his best friend and not his mom. Your husband can be close to more than one person, it's not a contest. She gave him life FFS.

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I wonder if he's allowed friends, or if that's seen as competition, too. Good luck to this dude.

Ohnonotmeagain · 23/01/2025 15:18

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:12

Who wants to be with a man child who is best friends with mommy? No woman in their right mind would sign up for that. Luckily my fiancé is normal and considers me his best friend.

and the mother staying with woman isn’t comparable. The man’s body didn’t just go through a traumatic event such as giving birth. Where their hormones are all over the place and their body is forever changed. Let’s not act like child birth has the same effect on men and women when men contribute what? 2 seconds to the pregnancy process oh yeah and ten get praised for doing the bare minimim
as a father

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Me. 🤷‍♀️

dh called his parents every day. They have a great relationship. It is possible to have a great relationship with your parents AND have a good marriage.

when his mum was dying he brought her to live with us and cared for her every day. It was hard but I know if every I need that kind of care he will be there to take care of me til the end.

think about it, when you have kids do you want them to grow up, find partners and then never really speak to you beyond pleasantries?

one of my children has moved away and they call nearly every day for a chat and to tell me about their lives. I love hearing from them and wouldn’t want it any other way.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

justteanbiscuits · 23/01/2025 14:45

Go on and on about what?

I want my sons to be allowed to speak to me as often as they want to. Not as often as their partner will allow. If my son wants to speak to me about how they sort their finances, I want him to be allowed to. I don't want my sons to be controlled by any partner and certainly not guilt tripped.

So you wouldn’t care about your DIL/SIL (because your son could be gay that’s why I add SIL as well) and their feelings? WOW you would be a nightmare MIL

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MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:18

And what is an ‘open access to your life’? I talked to my mum about everything- I was moving thousands of miles away, my visa status would be dependent on him, and yeah I needed to talk to my parents to make sure they thought the steps I was taking was sensible. And of course my mum was unbiased- she was my mum!!!

Jewel52 · 23/01/2025 15:17

I’m going to go against the grain here and say that I can see the op’s point of view. Some of this is supposition but it’s based on comments she’s made about feeling undervalued by her soon to be mother in law like the lack of birthday gifts and direct contact I think the op believes her partner’s openness on his higher earnings are the basis for the mother believing her son can do better. This is why she’s finding “traditional” extra jobs that she alone has responsibility for as if this proves her worthiness.

Op - don’t start a marriage on an imbalance. You shouldn’t be doing 100% of the housework. Tell your partner honestly what this issue is here and see whether you can resolve this for the future. If you can’t, there’s a message there.

it’s like you’ve convinced yourself that this is the only man for you and anything that threatens that scenario perhaps does cause you to overreact.

Having said that, I have a 22 year old, I’m close to, with a long term girlfriend. When I ask the occasional question that he feels treads on the privacy of their relationship, he’ll tell me straightforwardly. It makes me feel proud of the man I’ve raised for his loyalty and his respect for her boundaries. And I don’t like her much but that’s not the point!

Wexone · 23/01/2025 15:16

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:12

Who wants to be with a man child who is best friends with mommy? No woman in their right mind would sign up for that. Luckily my fiancé is normal and considers me his best friend.

and the mother staying with woman isn’t comparable. The man’s body didn’t just go through a traumatic event such as giving birth. Where their hormones are all over the place and their body is forever changed. Let’s not act like child birth has the same effect on men and women when men contribute what? 2 seconds to the pregnancy process oh yeah and ten get praised for doing the bare minimim
as a father

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Who wants to be with a women child who's mother is their best friend ?🙎No man in their right mind would want would sign up for that would they 😂
But yet for loads its life for loads of husbands and wives

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:16

nam3c4ang3 · 23/01/2025 14:41

Sorry OP - you sound hysterical and overdramatic. He sounds close to his mum and you probably aren't as close with yours. This relationship wont work. As a mother to a son (who i am very close to) - you sound hardwork.

Hopefully you won’t push his partner out and you will care about her as well

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AliceMcK · 23/01/2025 15:16

Massive over reaction. You actually sound very immature and high maintenance. It appears your just looking for a reason to hate the future MIL.

lots of people talk to their parents daily, I don’t, my mothers a bitch and I don’t talk to her at all. But your fiancé sounds like he has a perfectly normal healthy relationship.

Your actually sounding like my mother who was jealous of any relationship my DF had outside of her, she hated he was close to his mother and sisters and would try and make his life hard when it came to having a relationship with them.

i could tell you the ins and outs of the financial set up of dozens of people I know, not exact figures but the way their families work because some people are happy to share, some not. You’ve told him now your not happy to share, let it be that and let it go.

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