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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Bleachbum · 23/01/2025 22:40

By trying to control him like this, all you will do is ensure he keeps his convos with his mum private.

Have you considered why she clearly doesn’t like when when you live so far away? How can she even really know you if she doesn’t ever see you or speak to you?

For all you know she has got this negative impression of you from what her son tells her. Maybe on their daily chats he tells her about all the ways you are controlling, possessive, insecure etc?

You are trying to push her out of his life and make you his number 1. But if he is that close to his mum, that plan will never work.

You say that she hasn’t reached out to you or tried to form a bond with you. But how much effort have you put into forming a bond with her? Getting to know her? It is just as much your responsibility to try to have a relationship with her as it is her responsibility to have a relationship with you.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 22:26

Growlybear83 · 23/01/2025 22:18

Good grief, you really are hard work, OP. You clearly loathe your mother in law, apart from being so obviously jealous of her relationship with her son, and will nit pick about anything you can find. I feel very sorry for her.

Nick pick these are little micro aggressive passive aggressive things she does to exclude me sending a clear message. Also telling my fiancé even a month after we were engaged I wasn’t invited on vacation. Any MIL who came on here and mentioned these behaviors towards her son’s fiance would be told this isn’t a good idea as this could push your son away and the mother of your future GC.

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Elizo · 23/01/2025 22:25

I think they are just chatting about fairly mundane stuff. What is the actual problem?

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 22:22

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 22:14

The Christmas thing his mom rudely left my name off the Christmas card. It’s rude when someone is in a committed relationship to not address both members of the couple on holiday cards. Etiquette is when a couple is living together and especially once engaged/married to address it to the couple. I highly doubt if an in law came on here and said they sent a Xmas card and didn’t address their child’s long term partner anyone would say that’s ok. It’s very strange given how old her son is and that we own a home together that this isn’t a joint card. He was the one who shared the Christmas money bc again he considers us a couple and money is commonly shared. He made this decision and he was the one who told his mom if she puts stipulations on the money and continues to rudely exclude and ignore his fiancé’s existence on the holidays not to bother. Most people would not say it’s a good idea for a MIL to leave her son’s future bride off the Xmas card. It’s a dude and pointed way of saying your relationship isn’t important.

See, you cling on the fact that MIL was rude that one time while ignoring all of your own red flags

Alltheyellowbirds · 23/01/2025 22:21

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 22:02

It's toiletries 😂

Oh god, really 😂 I feel thick now. I think it was the capital letters that threw me off. Didn’t even think of putting the two words together, was just wracking my brains for American things.

I used to be really good at Dingbats too 🙄

Growlybear83 · 23/01/2025 22:18

Good grief, you really are hard work, OP. You clearly loathe your mother in law, apart from being so obviously jealous of her relationship with her son, and will nit pick about anything you can find. I feel very sorry for her.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 22:14

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 21:53

You have been told multiple times that the issue is not that you’ve asked for finances to be kept private but that you have reacted so strongly, given the silent treatment and cried. He didn’t even give specifics.

Then you have made disparaging about him being enmeshed and a mommy’s boy because he talks to her. You’ve over exaggerated her involvement in your relationship (none) just because he talks to her and gives her a rundown of what you have going on (renovations etc). You want him to talk to her less. You also want to control what he talks about. You haven’t asked him to keep stuff like that private, you have demanded it.

He’s not even allowed to keep his Christmas money. Seems like you benefit the most out of your financial set up, which is fine. I have joint finances with my wife, but it does make you question whether your concern is that someone might point that out

The Christmas thing his mom rudely left my name off the Christmas card. It’s rude when someone is in a committed relationship to not address both members of the couple on holiday cards. Etiquette is when a couple is living together and especially once engaged/married to address it to the couple. I highly doubt if an in law came on here and said they sent a Xmas card and didn’t address their child’s long term partner anyone would say that’s ok. It’s very strange given how old her son is and that we own a home together that this isn’t a joint card. He was the one who shared the Christmas money bc again he considers us a couple and money is commonly shared. He made this decision and he was the one who told his mom if she puts stipulations on the money and continues to rudely exclude and ignore his fiancé’s existence on the holidays not to bother. Most people would not say it’s a good idea for a MIL to leave her son’s future bride off the Xmas card. It’s a dude and pointed way of saying your relationship isn’t important.

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pizzaHeart · 23/01/2025 22:13

I didn’t read carefully the specifics of your financial set up and didn’t read all of your updates, only a few firsts and a few lasts. However my personal experience that you shouldn’t give your parents a detailed picture of your life with your partner. It never ends well. Going into details invites comments, judgments and advices from parents. I know not all parents are inferring type but somehow those who don’t incline to interfere usually teach their children to understand boundaries. I’m a bit suspicious that your partner felt obliged to share details of your financial arrangements after his mum mentioned about hers. He shouldn’t feel obliged to share anything about his life at this stage.
Im not saying not to share anything with parents, not at all, but certainly not about sex, money and disagreements. And you both should be on the same page with what to share or not.

But you were overreacting a bit at the very beginning. If you never had this conversation you couldn’t expect him to have the same views.

It’s great that you’ve are talking about this now.

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 22:06

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:40

This is crazy that feeling a different level of comfort from something that affects YOU as well than your partner and asking certain things stay between us as a couple is abusive than I don’t know what to say.

But it doesn’t affect YOU, it was a conversation between him and his mum about his day to day life.

it is fine to feel differently about things, (although telling the other person would help, they aren’t mind readers and this situation could easily have been avoided) but it is very wrong to force someone to do things your way, and if they don’t, you cry and give them the silent treatment until they apologise profusely ‘for upsetting you’.

you are possessive and controlling and like most abusers set on isolating their partners from their family, you are thoroughly convinced you are justified in your actions.

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 22:02

Alltheyellowbirds · 23/01/2025 21:51

OK, I’ve made my way through most of this, and the more of the OP’s posts I read, the more I think she is just very young and her ideas around relationships are a bit immature still.

Also, I really REALLY need to know what a Toilet Tree is. It came up in about five of her posts and I am still none the wiser! I am possibly being dense, but half my family is American and I’ve never come across it before…

It's toiletries 😂

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 21:53

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:40

This is crazy that feeling a different level of comfort from something that affects YOU as well than your partner and asking certain things stay between us as a couple is abusive than I don’t know what to say.

You have been told multiple times that the issue is not that you’ve asked for finances to be kept private but that you have reacted so strongly, given the silent treatment and cried. He didn’t even give specifics.

Then you have made disparaging about him being enmeshed and a mommy’s boy because he talks to her. You’ve over exaggerated her involvement in your relationship (none) just because he talks to her and gives her a rundown of what you have going on (renovations etc). You want him to talk to her less. You also want to control what he talks about. You haven’t asked him to keep stuff like that private, you have demanded it.

He’s not even allowed to keep his Christmas money. Seems like you benefit the most out of your financial set up, which is fine. I have joint finances with my wife, but it does make you question whether your concern is that someone might point that out

Alltheyellowbirds · 23/01/2025 21:51

OK, I’ve made my way through most of this, and the more of the OP’s posts I read, the more I think she is just very young and her ideas around relationships are a bit immature still.

Also, I really REALLY need to know what a Toilet Tree is. It came up in about five of her posts and I am still none the wiser! I am possibly being dense, but half my family is American and I’ve never come across it before…

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 21:42

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:39

If I was abusing him I wouldn’t want to go to a counselor

Plenty of abusers go to couples counselling. Often they present a fake version of themselves to win over the counsellor. That’s why counsellors don’t recommend going to therapy with an abusive partner.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:40

This is crazy that feeling a different level of comfort from something that affects YOU as well than your partner and asking certain things stay between us as a couple is abusive than I don’t know what to say.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:39

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 21:16

If you need to go to marriage counselling before you are married then you should not be getting married.

You sound very controlling of your partner, bordering on emotionally abusive.

If I was abusing him I wouldn’t want to go to a counselor

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poemsandwine · 23/01/2025 21:38

If you need to go to marriage counselling before you are married then you should not be getting married

To be honest, premarital counselling can be a good thing. You might end up realising that you don't agree on the important things, like finances, or whether you're allowed to speak to your mother, and not get married. Much cheaper in the long run on several levels.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:38

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 23/01/2025 21:24

Very much agree with this. OP's behaviour is a huge red flag.

But if it affects both of us shouldn’t they be a one no two yes situation bc it’s half of my account too? Why would he want to discuss it despite my wishes? And we are a couple a team these things are fused together like finances.

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 23/01/2025 21:24

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 14:09

If he cares about me and loves me why would he want to do something that upsets me.

That sounds like a line right out of ‘how to control your partner’ guide.

I certainly do have a right to say hey this is something that’s between us as a couple I would appreciate it staying between us as our finances.

Yes, about things personal to YOU. Like your health. Not things that affect him like finances, you can’t demand that.

Very much agree with this. OP's behaviour is a huge red flag.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 21:16

If you need to go to marriage counselling before you are married then you should not be getting married.

You sound very controlling of your partner, bordering on emotionally abusive.

Nicknacky · 23/01/2025 21:12

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 20:52

  1. glad you managed to have a detailed sit down heart to heart about this, in the 14 minutes between making another post on here...

  2. his relationship with his mum sounds fine.

  3. you sound jealous, unreasonable and frankly I'd have guessed your age at about 18. The OTT declarations of how amazingly in love you are, are pure cringe. You sound like you are playing at being a grown up. Sorry.

  4. he can't get everything he needs in life from you. He needs friends and family too. My husband is ab absolute support to me, but sometimes I need to offload with friends, or bounce something off someone, and that's ok.

  5. you clearly like talking A LOT. You've given us so much unnecessary detail here (toilet trees, specifics of ordering repairs) maybe it gives the impression you're ok for him to talk in detail too.

  6. he couldn't tell you in advance that he was going to mention how you organise finances because it unexpectedly and naturally flowed into the conversation. That's not a push of transparent, and that you think it is amounts to a red flag from me.

  7. it's possible that she doesn't like you because you've been controlling and needy and she is concerned for her son.

  8. in general, the British are about as repressed and private as you get. Every American I've met it's much more upfront about this stuff. We hate taking about money. So if we are saying you are being ridiculous, then it's fair to say that you are.

And thankfully she has a “snow day” that enables her to post constantly despite her busy but underpaid job as a teacher.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 21:01

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 20:52

  1. glad you managed to have a detailed sit down heart to heart about this, in the 14 minutes between making another post on here...

  2. his relationship with his mum sounds fine.

  3. you sound jealous, unreasonable and frankly I'd have guessed your age at about 18. The OTT declarations of how amazingly in love you are, are pure cringe. You sound like you are playing at being a grown up. Sorry.

  4. he can't get everything he needs in life from you. He needs friends and family too. My husband is ab absolute support to me, but sometimes I need to offload with friends, or bounce something off someone, and that's ok.

  5. you clearly like talking A LOT. You've given us so much unnecessary detail here (toilet trees, specifics of ordering repairs) maybe it gives the impression you're ok for him to talk in detail too.

  6. he couldn't tell you in advance that he was going to mention how you organise finances because it unexpectedly and naturally flowed into the conversation. That's not a push of transparent, and that you think it is amounts to a red flag from me.

  7. it's possible that she doesn't like you because you've been controlling and needy and she is concerned for her son.

  8. in general, the British are about as repressed and private as you get. Every American I've met it's much more upfront about this stuff. We hate taking about money. So if we are saying you are being ridiculous, then it's fair to say that you are.

you guys can’t be that repressed if you think this is ok.

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SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 20:55

Oh, left one out

  1. toilet trees made me chuckle 😂😂😂
SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 20:52
  1. glad you managed to have a detailed sit down heart to heart about this, in the 14 minutes between making another post on here...

  2. his relationship with his mum sounds fine.

  3. you sound jealous, unreasonable and frankly I'd have guessed your age at about 18. The OTT declarations of how amazingly in love you are, are pure cringe. You sound like you are playing at being a grown up. Sorry.

  4. he can't get everything he needs in life from you. He needs friends and family too. My husband is ab absolute support to me, but sometimes I need to offload with friends, or bounce something off someone, and that's ok.

  5. you clearly like talking A LOT. You've given us so much unnecessary detail here (toilet trees, specifics of ordering repairs) maybe it gives the impression you're ok for him to talk in detail too.

  6. he couldn't tell you in advance that he was going to mention how you organise finances because it unexpectedly and naturally flowed into the conversation. That's not a push of transparent, and that you think it is amounts to a red flag from me.

  7. it's possible that she doesn't like you because you've been controlling and needy and she is concerned for her son.

  8. in general, the British are about as repressed and private as you get. Every American I've met it's much more upfront about this stuff. We hate taking about money. So if we are saying you are being ridiculous, then it's fair to say that you are.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 20:48

Suzuki76 · 23/01/2025 20:29

Soon to be married and soon to be divorced. Marching the poor fucker to counselling because you had a tantrum and you need someone else to tell you to stop being a spoilt baby. Jesus.

Counseling to work through our issues. Isn’t there a perfectly normal and reasonable suggestion?

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 20:47

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 20:37

You sound really controlling. You want complete privacy so do not want him being able to talk to other people, the only reason I can think that’s the case is because you know your behaviour would be a red flag to others and they might help your finance see it. Otherwise you’d not try and control what he can and can’t discuss with his mum

Some people are more private people about their family life. I’m one of them

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