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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:42

Spirallingdownwards · 24/01/2025 14:34

Yes he has. I do his tax returns for him. He is a high earner. His wife is American. She always earned less and is now a Sahm. She knows I do his tax returns because she sends me his US income informationto enable me to do so. . She isn't jealous of his relationship with me. I have given them a large deposit towards their house purchase.

I don't need to police how they spend their money but I do know their income and they are grateful to me for the support I have with paperwork, financial support and loving support.

I do feel your real issue isn't actually with the financial side but with the lack of love and support she gives to you as his partner which I actually find quite appalling as a mother.

If that was there the other (ie the fact she knows you share finances even if she doesn't know details) probably wouldn't irk you especially as she doesn't even know details (like in my case).

If this is going to be an ongoing issue for you I would ask that you reconsider whether marriage at this stage is the right thing.

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Thank you so much for clarifying. I think in your case it’s different as you are supportive of their relationship and view them as a “them” where as my FMIL continually ignores my existence and my fiancé luckily stood up for me each and every time she done that and said he won’t vacation where his future wife is excluded from. His mom cried and told him he would regret it. I admit the financial thing I overreacted on and I apologized to my fiancé for that. The Christmas card thing the vacation and the never reaching out or acknowledging my role in her son’s life is problematic. Along with her trying to control her grown son by telling him despite that he is paying that he isn’t allowed to bring his own fiancé and trying to manage his relationship with his brothers. We have an appt with a marriage counselor next week bc I’m concerned about his mother still treating him like a child and him still being under her thumb to the degree he is. I feel he was raised in an environment where he was conditioned to be co dependent on his mother. The daily phone calls constantly 7 days a week and the need to tell her every detail of his life reeks of that. It’s like there has been no separation or independence into his adult life. She doesn’t live next door but metaphorically it feels like she does. I wouldn’t be surprised if she knows the time of day my fiancé shits and join not exaggerating.

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Tink1989 · 24/01/2025 14:39

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:32

How? You don’t see the red flag that a woman is trying to manage the relationship between her and her grown sons by telling them to vacation together and doing that by excluding her son’s fiance? You don’t see the control in that? Oh but it’s ok for her to control him bc she is his mother.

No not at all, your twisting the narrative, it’s quite normal for parents to holiday with their children, alluding to it as setting a “play date” for them is disgusting and giving Glenn close fatal attraction vibes, is he going on the holiday?

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 14:38

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 13:24

So you want her to know about your finances when it’s to your benefit but don’t want her to about finances when it’s not to your benefit?

There’s a word for that, OP.

OP, would be good to get your answer on this.

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 14:37

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:32

How? You don’t see the red flag that a woman is trying to manage the relationship between her and her grown sons by telling them to vacation together and doing that by excluding her son’s fiance? You don’t see the control in that? Oh but it’s ok for her to control him bc she is his mother.

Being a fiancée doesn’t confer any automatic rights on you.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/01/2025 14:37

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:44

Also his mom doesn’t treat us equal at all! Despite that I’ve been with him since we were very young and shown a lot of support to her son through his move and everything. Never reaches out to me only talks to her son. I read on here about MILs or soon to be MILs starting to include both in texts or reaching out to the DIL. My birthday rolls around no acknowledgment. She will travel and get just my fiancé something. Christmas even though we live together and are engaged to be married doesn’t acknowledge us as a couple just addresses cards to my fiance individually. When she visits never tries to foster any sort of independent relationship with me. Yes I’ve reached out to her always gotten her a nice Xmas gift and birthday gift

She doesn't sound very nice. Do your parents buy birthday and Christmas presents for your fiance?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:37

Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 14:34

@ThisQuickJadeWasp
But you weren't invited! It's a free world so I suppose you could have just turned up. Whilst it's completely normal for parents to want to spend time with their children (and shock horror maybe their new partner), perhaps she didn't invite you because she knew you would ruin the trip with your weird attitude.

And you're not ABOUT to be his wife - it'a a year and a half away. By which time he will hopefully realise that you're trying to isolate him from his mother because you are so jealous, controlling, and entitled.

Either way we are engaged with a wedding date and that should be respected.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:36

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 14:34

Uh oh. You're getting your stories mixed up. The "you will regret this" threat was about the Christmas money, not the holiday.

It was both she said it twice

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Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 14:34

@ThisQuickJadeWasp
But you weren't invited! It's a free world so I suppose you could have just turned up. Whilst it's completely normal for parents to want to spend time with their children (and shock horror maybe their new partner), perhaps she didn't invite you because she knew you would ruin the trip with your weird attitude.

And you're not ABOUT to be his wife - it'a a year and a half away. By which time he will hopefully realise that you're trying to isolate him from his mother because you are so jealous, controlling, and entitled.

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 14:34

Uh oh. You're getting your stories mixed up. The "you will regret this" threat was about the Christmas money, not the holiday.

Spirallingdownwards · 24/01/2025 14:34

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:23

What has your son told you? What is your relationship with his wife like? What if she got upset that your son divulged all his financial info to you?

Yes he has. I do his tax returns for him. He is a high earner. His wife is American. She always earned less and is now a Sahm. She knows I do his tax returns because she sends me his US income informationto enable me to do so. . She isn't jealous of his relationship with me. I have given them a large deposit towards their house purchase.

I don't need to police how they spend their money but I do know their income and they are grateful to me for the support I have with paperwork, financial support and loving support.

I do feel your real issue isn't actually with the financial side but with the lack of love and support she gives to you as his partner which I actually find quite appalling as a mother.

If that was there the other (ie the fact she knows you share finances even if she doesn't know details) probably wouldn't irk you especially as she doesn't even know details (like in my case).

If this is going to be an ongoing issue for you I would ask that you reconsider whether marriage at this stage is the right thing.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 14:33

Alltheyellowbirds · 24/01/2025 14:27

No. You are deliberately and repeatedly missing the point.

His mother invited HER husband, and HER children. That is her nuclear family, she wanted to spend time with them. As others have said it is not uncommon for parents to sometimes want to have time with their children.

it does not mean that your husband has to view his step-father as “more family than his own future wife”. That is just you, again, seeing everyone as competition for his time and affection. He can go on the trip and have a lovely family holuday with his mother, step/father and siblings, and then come home to his fiancée. Who in normal circumstances would just say “it’s lovely to have you back darling, I hope you had a wonderful time!

edited for typo.

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This.

He wasn’t going on some wild strip club adventure or being dragged home by his mother to be forced into an arranged marriage.

It was a chance to spend time with his family, the mature, healthy and sensible thing to do would have been to tell him to have a nice time.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:32

Tink1989 · 24/01/2025 14:27

This right here is very red flaggish of you

How? You don’t see the red flag that a woman is trying to manage the relationship between her and her grown sons by telling them to vacation together and doing that by excluding her son’s fiance? You don’t see the control in that? Oh but it’s ok for her to control him bc she is his mother.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:30

Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 14:24

If his mother is organising the trip then of course she can bring her new partner!

Can I ask why you bothered to start this thread? You clearly believe that your are 100% right and just about everyone else is wrong, you completely ignore everything everyone is saying to you, and just seem to have no self awareness at all.

And tell her 30 year old son not to bring his? Sure she can anyone CAN do anything. Doesn’t make it less rude. If you plan a wedding and you allow cousin Jane to bring a +1 but don’t allow cousin Carl to bring one sure it’s your wedding you CAN do whatever you want but it’s rude.

It’s a double standard. Adopt the same standard for everyone. My fiancé is paying his own way also. He even told his mom this woman is about to be my wife and is very much my family yet you expect me to respect your relationship with your partner and he is invited but what about respecting and acknowledging my relationship with my fiancé. I’m not a single man. I’m a grown man with a live in partner we are an established couple. She cried and told him he will regret not going and he said mom of course I’m going to put us first when you marry and when you are on the verge of marrying it’s perfectly natural that your fiance/wife comes first. Just like you want me to consider your partner family and you want him included well I want my partner included. Everyone I spoke to in real life found this extremely odd.

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 14:29

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:26

But at 30 mommy shouldn’t be still managing his relationship with his brothers. They are grown men if they want to arrange it they can do it themselves. He isn’t a 5 year old needing mommy to arrange a play date for him. It’s almost as if cell phones exist. Talk about control leaving her son’s fiance out so SHE can arrange for her sons to have time together on her time is control.

Again with the “mommy”?!

Like golden boy and apron strings. As if her expecting to have regular contact with her son is somehow odd.

Alltheyellowbirds · 24/01/2025 14:27

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:17

So you really think a man he barely lived with and came into his life into adulthood he should consider more family than his own future wife??

No. You are deliberately and repeatedly missing the point.

His mother invited HER husband, and HER children. That is her nuclear family, she wanted to spend time with them. As others have said it is not uncommon for parents to sometimes want to have time with their children.

it does not mean that your husband has to view his step-father as “more family than his own future wife”. That is just you, again, seeing everyone as competition for his time and affection. He can go on the trip and have a lovely family holuday with his mother, step/father and siblings, and then come home to his fiancée. Who in normal circumstances would just say “it’s lovely to have you back darling, I hope you had a wonderful time!

edited for typo.

Tink1989 · 24/01/2025 14:27

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:26

But at 30 mommy shouldn’t be still managing his relationship with his brothers. They are grown men if they want to arrange it they can do it themselves. He isn’t a 5 year old needing mommy to arrange a play date for him. It’s almost as if cell phones exist. Talk about control leaving her son’s fiance out so SHE can arrange for her sons to have time together on her time is control.

This right here is very red flaggish of you

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 14:26

Jesus Christ. You're just batshit, aren't you.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:26

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 14:23

As I said some might consider him part of the nuclear family some not. He has presumably been living in the family home and spent time with the brothers. I don’t know why you are so married to the idea that if he’s going you have to go. He’s not one of the brother’s partners. If that were the case you’d have a point.

Why can’t she have the trip now?! Why does she have to stick to a timeline you dictate?

There could be a ton of reasons that you’d have no clue about, wanting her kids to spend time together, maybe she has health concerns

She’s not the other woman she’s his mother

But at 30 mommy shouldn’t be still managing his relationship with his brothers. They are grown men if they want to arrange it they can do it themselves. He isn’t a 5 year old needing mommy to arrange a play date for him. It’s almost as if cell phones exist. Talk about control leaving her son’s fiance out so SHE can arrange for her sons to have time together on her time is control.

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Growlybear83 · 24/01/2025 14:24

If his mother is organising the trip then of course she can bring her new partner!

Can I ask why you bothered to start this thread? You clearly believe that your are 100% right and just about everyone else is wrong, you completely ignore everything everyone is saying to you, and just seem to have no self awareness at all.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:24

saraclara · 24/01/2025 14:23

His mum was planning a trip with her partner. She invited her sons. There is nothing remotely odd about that.

You are twisting it to be something that had your MIL and the sons on an equal footing. They weren't. It was mil and stepdad's trip and the sons were invited. Not the mum and sons' trip that only one partner was invited on.

No but she is labeling it a family vacation and I’m sure my fiancé considers me his family. And a hell of a lot more that he considers his future wife his family than his mother’s spouse. Again he lived with the man for a year the man wasn’t a father figure to him didn’t raise him up.

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HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 14:24

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:22

Why?

Why do you think?

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 14:23

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:10

But this man isn’t nuclear family to my fiancé. We could have a conversation about that if his raised my fiancé from the time he was 2 on up. But it’s bonkers to expect my fiancé to view a man who he barely lived with and didn’t enter his life until he was an adult part of his nuclear family. Even weirder if he would consider this man someone else’s spouse more family than his own. To his mom yes but not to him and at 30 you aren’t a child the vacation should encompass everyone’s needs. He isn’t a little boy just leaving home he flew the nest a while back why not have that trip then.

As I said some might consider him part of the nuclear family some not. He has presumably been living in the family home and spent time with the brothers. I don’t know why you are so married to the idea that if he’s going you have to go. He’s not one of the brother’s partners. If that were the case you’d have a point.

Why can’t she have the trip now?! Why does she have to stick to a timeline you dictate?

There could be a ton of reasons that you’d have no clue about, wanting her kids to spend time together, maybe she has health concerns

She’s not the other woman she’s his mother

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 14:23

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:18

Because according to others on here I’m horrible because he makes more than me.

and because the mortgage is the most expensive bill so it evens it out a bit more of if I get all the utilities plus groceries and internet. We are happy and comfortable with this arrangement and it never caused issues for us.

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This doesn’t even make sense though, if you use a joint account how come it’s “I pay for X he pays for X”?

Whoarethoseguys · 24/01/2025 14:23

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 13:21

And you wouldn’t want your DIL to treat herself as well? So it’s only your son that works hard and deserves a treat but not his wife? Interesting if they have children considering even in 2025 most of the child rearing is still put on the woman.

I don't give money for presents but if I did I would definitely want my son or daughter to spend it on themselves and not put it into the household pot. It's not about who works the hardest it's about giving a personal gift to my child. I do also buy gifts for their partners though. Did his mother buy you a gift? And did your parents buy a Christmas gift for your fiancé.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 14:23

Spirallingdownwards · 24/01/2025 14:19

How lovely to see a man who engages with his mother.

Let's hope that if you have sons one day they love you and want to engage with you.

He hasn't even told you any figures - like my son has.

What has your son told you? What is your relationship with his wife like? What if she got upset that your son divulged all his financial info to you?

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