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AIBU to be surprised that when you renew a British Passport, you have to send any passports off you have from other countries?

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PassportQuestionxoxo · 23/01/2025 10:05

Just renewing British passport. In the last few years, have gained an Irish passport. I was surprised to find that in order to renew my British passport, I need to send my Irish passport to the British Passport office as well. The only alternative to sending off the Irish passport, is to do a colour photocopy of all the 30+ pages, which would be a massive task.
Is anyone else surprised by this or is it just me? I had thought that one of the advantages to having a second passport is that you can use it when the other one is not available. Yes, I know that I could photocopy the second passport if desperate, but what a faff, and why does the British Passport Office want my Irish passport anyway?

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Porridgeislife · 22/02/2025 18:05

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:56

How odd. The last time I did that was 2016 and was not asked (admittedly I was not living in the UK at the time.)

I will see what happens at my next renewal.

It’s definitely a requirement now and has been for at least a few years.

You don’t have to send your Aussie passport in though. A colour photocopy of each page is sufficient. Given how much an Aussie passport costs now there’s no way I’m sending it off to be potentially lost in transit or by HMPO.

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:56

YippyKiYay · 22/02/2025 10:47

I've had to send Aust PP in for my, DH, DS, DD British passports every single time. Not new.

How odd. The last time I did that was 2016 and was not asked (admittedly I was not living in the UK at the time.)

I will see what happens at my next renewal.

YippyKiYay · 22/02/2025 10:47

JHound · 23/01/2025 12:25

Is that a very new thing? I have an Australian passport and they have never requested to see it.

I've had to send Aust PP in for my, DH, DS, DD British passports every single time. Not new.

Thankyouforthrdayz · 09/02/2025 13:26

@Ace56 but the UK won't help you in Ireland. Because you're an Irish national. Thats countries that allow multiple citizenships need to know.

HipToTheHopDontStop · 27/01/2025 16:26

Chersfrozenface · 27/01/2025 16:11

According to the instructions for Passport Office staff,
"Customers must apply for a passport using the name they use for all official purposes and must match the name on their foreign documents. Although we expect the customer to change the name on their foreign document to match the name on their passport application, some customers may not be able to."

So the PO will only issue a passport with a different name if the applicant cannot change the name on the foreign document.

More details here
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents/names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents-accessible#:~:text=Customers%20must%20apply%20for%20a,may%20not%20be%20able%20to.

Yes, and pp can't. So, as I said, it's normal in her situation to have one in each name, with a note on the British passport.

Evilspiritgin · 27/01/2025 16:12

Just send the bloody thing in , mine was back with new passport in 5 days

Chersfrozenface · 27/01/2025 16:11

HipToTheHopDontStop · 27/01/2025 15:55

It's completely normal to have one passport in married name and one in birth name, since they are legally both your name. No idea why you'd be told that, it's not the case.

According to the instructions for Passport Office staff,
"Customers must apply for a passport using the name they use for all official purposes and must match the name on their foreign documents. Although we expect the customer to change the name on their foreign document to match the name on their passport application, some customers may not be able to."

So the PO will only issue a passport with a different name if the applicant cannot change the name on the foreign document.

More details here
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents/names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents-accessible#:~:text=Customers%20must%20apply%20for%20a,may%20not%20be%20able%20to.

Names: aligning names on foreign documents (accessible)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents/names-aligning-names-on-foreign-documents-accessible#:~:text=Customers%20must%20apply%20for%20a,may%20not%20be%20able%20to.

HipToTheHopDontStop · 27/01/2025 15:55

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 19:53

So this is how it goes…I have a passport from a different country that insists that all their passports are signed in maiden name. So all the women in my family have their passports in their maiden name but other docs can be in their married name.
Now after living in the UK for 40 years DH has convinced me to get a British Passport.
My new British passport also has to be in my maiden name. I have been informed by the British Government that my new British passport will have to be in the same surname as my birth passport ie. My birth name/maiden name.
Apart from that all my other documentation ie. British Driving License, bank docs, NHS docs etc are all in my married name.

It's completely normal to have one passport in married name and one in birth name, since they are legally both your name. No idea why you'd be told that, it's not the case.

CatherinedeBourgh · 27/01/2025 12:37

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 19:53

So this is how it goes…I have a passport from a different country that insists that all their passports are signed in maiden name. So all the women in my family have their passports in their maiden name but other docs can be in their married name.
Now after living in the UK for 40 years DH has convinced me to get a British Passport.
My new British passport also has to be in my maiden name. I have been informed by the British Government that my new British passport will have to be in the same surname as my birth passport ie. My birth name/maiden name.
Apart from that all my other documentation ie. British Driving License, bank docs, NHS docs etc are all in my married name.

I have a birth passport in my maiden name, my British one in my married name. It just has a note saying I have another passport with another name on it.

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 19:53

Everythingisnumbersnow · 26/01/2025 18:40

Yes official documents. They can't compel you to use your maiden name if that's not the name you actually go by.

So this is how it goes…I have a passport from a different country that insists that all their passports are signed in maiden name. So all the women in my family have their passports in their maiden name but other docs can be in their married name.
Now after living in the UK for 40 years DH has convinced me to get a British Passport.
My new British passport also has to be in my maiden name. I have been informed by the British Government that my new British passport will have to be in the same surname as my birth passport ie. My birth name/maiden name.
Apart from that all my other documentation ie. British Driving License, bank docs, NHS docs etc are all in my married name.

Everythingisnumbersnow · 26/01/2025 18:40

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 15:05

Well not official documents.
I have my citizenship ceremony this week and have just done all the documentation for my British Passport and can assure you that they ave insisted in both passports being in the same name…ie my maiden name.
All my other documents are in my married name.

Yes official documents. They can't compel you to use your maiden name if that's not the name you actually go by.

Ace56 · 26/01/2025 15:18

Thankyouforthrdayz · 26/01/2025 08:19

Being a dual national is of huge significance if you need assistance abroad, and there has to be a means for the UK to know your status.

Why? If I’m travelling abroad on my British passport and need assistance, the British embassy will help. No need to get the Irish involved. And nice versa.

CatherinedeBourgh · 26/01/2025 15:13

SlipperyLizard · 23/01/2025 15:02

@Tomatotater i expect my DDs will mostly use their Irish ones when they’re older, but only they have them at the moment (I can get one, but haven’t got round to it, DH can’t) and so for our recent holiday I renewed DD’s British one so we’d all have the same.

I have no idea if any eyebrows would be raised at immigration if we had one child with a different passport, but if they were DD would not take it well!

Questions are not asked if you have children with different passports. I have travelled as a family of 4, each with a different nationality passport and other than amusement I did not encounter anything at any border control.

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 15:05

Everythingisnumbersnow · 26/01/2025 10:00

Well that's legally incorrect. In Scotland (part of the UK) you can use any name you like.

Well not official documents.
I have my citizenship ceremony this week and have just done all the documentation for my British Passport and can assure you that they ave insisted in both passports being in the same name…ie my maiden name.
All my other documents are in my married name.

HipToTheHopDontStop · 26/01/2025 10:18

Chersfrozenface · 26/01/2025 10:14

Up to a point. In ordinary life you can use any name you like, provided it's not for the purposes of deception or fraud.

But you do have to have a name you use for all official purposes.

The name a customer must use in their passport
Customers must apply for their passport using the name they use for all official purposes. The name on a customer’s passport application must match the name on their UK or overseas supporting documents (for example, their birth certificate).
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-names-we-use-in-passports-caseworker-guidance/names-the-names-we-use-in-passports#:~:text=The%20name%20a%20customer%20must,example%2C%20their%20birth%20certificate).

True, but there are lots of exceptions to that rule.

Chersfrozenface · 26/01/2025 10:14

Up to a point. In ordinary life you can use any name you like, provided it's not for the purposes of deception or fraud.

But you do have to have a name you use for all official purposes.

The name a customer must use in their passport
Customers must apply for their passport using the name they use for all official purposes. The name on a customer’s passport application must match the name on their UK or overseas supporting documents (for example, their birth certificate).
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-names-we-use-in-passports-caseworker-guidance/names-the-names-we-use-in-passports#:~:text=The%20name%20a%20customer%20must,example%2C%20their%20birth%20certificate).

Everythingisnumbersnow · 26/01/2025 10:00

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 09:58

Just doing my British passport and that is not the case.
my country of origin passport has to be in my maiden name and have just been told by the gov agency that my British one has to be and will be in my maiden name too.

Well that's legally incorrect. In Scotland (part of the UK) you can use any name you like.

handsdownthebest · 26/01/2025 09:58

Everythingisnumbersnow · 23/01/2025 11:35

You're entitled to use different names

Just doing my British passport and that is not the case.
my country of origin passport has to be in my maiden name and have just been told by the gov agency that my British one has to be and will be in my maiden name too.

AuntyPonsonby · 26/01/2025 09:46

I don't see the need for the British passport. I've let mine expire and travel on an Irish passport only.

GoldenSunflowers · 26/01/2025 09:30

When they send it back they also send back your photocopies.

Thankyouforthrdayz · 26/01/2025 08:19

Being a dual national is of huge significance if you need assistance abroad, and there has to be a means for the UK to know your status.

Ace56 · 26/01/2025 08:15

I wouldn’t bother. When I renewed mine I just didn’t declare my Irish passport. It’s none of their business if I hold dual nationality as I am allowed to by law.

Decorhate · 26/01/2025 08:12

I also found out about this very last minute when I was about to renew my son’s British passport for the first time. I had to delay the renewal as he needed his other passport for a holiday he had already planned. Which then meant he had to miss a family holiday when both passports were away (needed to get on with the renewal as needed the British passport for something specific).

Lurkingandlearning · 26/01/2025 08:09

PassportQuestionxoxo · 23/01/2025 10:16

It's over 30 pages long, so hardly a five minute task!
I now wish I just hadn't admitted having the Irish Passport now as many of you have suggested!

Edited

You’d open the passport and lay it flat on the printer, copying two pages at the same time. So 15 photocopies.

Massive???

sashh · 26/01/2025 07:55

PassportQuestionxoxo · 24/01/2025 18:13

That's a cool way of doing it! Great idea. I've sent the passport itself to the passport office already this time though 😊

I will pretend I did read the full thread and say that it is useful for anyone else in the same situation.