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DS doesn’t want us to contact him while he is travelling

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alizea · 23/01/2025 01:51

DS has recently turned 25, he has a degree, was working in a good job and doing some sports coaching on the side. He was in a fairly cheap flat share so able to save good money.

In September he announced he was taking 3 months off work (approved sabbatical apparently) and going to Australia and New Zealand to clear his head. He had a nasty break up at the start of last year and was devastated so we obviously supported him and he has lots of savings plus a lump sum from the death of my sister who left an amount to all her nieces and nephews.

Anyway, he came home just before Christmas, seemed normal and was talking about going back to work etc. He has now decided to quit his job, and he is heading to Thailand next week. He has told us he will be travelling with a girl he met while in Australia, very cagey about giving us any info on her, other than she's 22 and "not British or Aussie or that". Obviously we are worried and this is out of character but he's an adult.

Well tonight he sat us down and basically said he needs space from us, I asked why and he said he feels like we were neglectful of him when he was a child and favoured his sisters and as an adult haven't been supportive, especially during his break up. I got very upset as this really took me by surprise and I asked him over and over how we can make things better and apologised for failing him in anyway. He has asked us not to contact him while he is travelling, he said he doesn't know his full plans yet but unlikely he will be home before the end of the year. He said he plans to spend some time in South East Asia and East Asia through the end of spring, then summer in Europe, then Autumn and Early Winter in South America and Central America.
He has said he may visit in the summer as the girl he is travelling with has never been to London and would like to but plans are flexible and we shouldn't expect anything. He has requested we don't call or message him but we can continue following him on Instagram.

I don't really know what to do, the thought of him travelling and being unable to check in makes me so nervous and I'm really concerned about this somewhat sudden revelation about us not being great parents to him, I've always tried my best and I never ever wanted to let him down.

AIBU to be concerned? He said we can message him with questions etc. until he leaves but then nothing. Im such a mix of worry, upset and fear that I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:47

SheWasPureSound · 23/01/2025 11:45

A lot of prioritising her daughters and letting her son feel unsupported! Please also remember you’re only hearing OPs POV. She’s obviously not going to think she did much wrong is she! Think about how many times you and your mother disagreed about versions of childhood memories. It would be very silly indeed to think that the OP is a super reliable narrator.

Where was she unsupportive?

I am also the eldest and went through a lot of what he went through but did not get as much support as he did.

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:47

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:45

I have.

If it is so obvious, just tell me one thing as I can't seee anything.

Then I can't help you. Good luck to your own kids, if you're a parent.

SheWasPureSound · 23/01/2025 11:46

stitchy · 23/01/2025 11:38

I really sympathise but I get your ds's resentment too, he sounds like he was the easiest to parent and so you had higher expectations of him and his behaviour as a result and now he has come to resent it. Maybe deep down because of your high expectations you felt he should have behaved better during the breakup too and he sensed that and just wanted some unconditional support? It was a tricky position for you though.

How highly you think of him does come through in your posts though, you trust his financial judgement and you're proud of his hard work etc. He just needs to hear it and is now making his bid for attention and asserting himself with a bit of an emotional foot stamp. I don't think he really thinks he had a terrible childhood he is just lashing out.

It's so easy to unintentionally overlook a child that doesn't demand a lot of attention/supervision, I think I'm probably guilty of that with mine.

Just be honest with him, tell him how proud you are of him both as a person and also his hard work for all his achievements. Tell him you understand why he feels the way he does but you're glad he articulated it even if it wasn't something you wanted to hear as the alternative could have been that he just drifted away and became a stranger to you which would break your heart. I would also gently let him know that being a parent is incredibly tough.
I think he'll come around.

@IMustDoMoreExercise heres another summary since you’re struggling so much.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:45

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:35

Try actually reading all the posts.

I have.

If it is so obvious, just tell me one thing as I can't seee anything.

SheWasPureSound · 23/01/2025 11:45

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:34

Well, compared to most parents she was perfect.

What exactly did she do wrong?

A lot of prioritising her daughters and letting her son feel unsupported! Please also remember you’re only hearing OPs POV. She’s obviously not going to think she did much wrong is she! Think about how many times you and your mother disagreed about versions of childhood memories. It would be very silly indeed to think that the OP is a super reliable narrator.

stitchy · 23/01/2025 11:38

I really sympathise but I get your ds's resentment too, he sounds like he was the easiest to parent and so you had higher expectations of him and his behaviour as a result and now he has come to resent it. Maybe deep down because of your high expectations you felt he should have behaved better during the breakup too and he sensed that and just wanted some unconditional support? It was a tricky position for you though.

How highly you think of him does come through in your posts though, you trust his financial judgement and you're proud of his hard work etc. He just needs to hear it and is now making his bid for attention and asserting himself with a bit of an emotional foot stamp. I don't think he really thinks he had a terrible childhood he is just lashing out.

It's so easy to unintentionally overlook a child that doesn't demand a lot of attention/supervision, I think I'm probably guilty of that with mine.

Just be honest with him, tell him how proud you are of him both as a person and also his hard work for all his achievements. Tell him you understand why he feels the way he does but you're glad he articulated it even if it wasn't something you wanted to hear as the alternative could have been that he just drifted away and became a stranger to you which would break your heart. I would also gently let him know that being a parent is incredibly tough.
I think he'll come around.

Butthistimesticktoit · 23/01/2025 11:37

Lets unravel this a bit.

How will your DD1 kick off?

Are you scared of her?

What would happen if you just let her kick off, to the max?

Why are you so against her moving out?

I’m not surprised she has little social life, she sounds a little Verucca Salt!

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:35

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:34

Well, compared to most parents she was perfect.

What exactly did she do wrong?

Try actually reading all the posts.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:34

SheWasPureSound · 23/01/2025 11:28

This is the funniest post I’ve ever seen on here.

Well, compared to most parents she was perfect.

What exactly did she do wrong?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:34

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:28

Have you REALLY read all the posts?!

Well, compared to most parents she was perfect.

What exactly did she do wrong?

HellofromJohnCraven · 23/01/2025 11:34

You don't need to respond. Let him go, follow his wishes.
He is the ideal age to go off and travel. Less than 20 years ago, you would only have had the odd postcard.
Maybe he will work it all through whilst he is away.
My dsis did similar. My parents were wounded by it. But with the distance of time, some of it she was right about and some of it she looked differently at once she had kids of her own.
With my own adult kids, I think I was a better parent to one. I realised far too late that different kids need different parenting. I did what I though was right. I can't go back and change it now. Equally that dc is a parent now and has softened their view.

Rosie120 · 23/01/2025 11:33

Do you know what he actually sounds pretty thoughtful and mature. Whether he is right or wrong he feels aggrieved but he is trying to reassure you where he can and giving you connections. He is 25. I’d let him get on and have a great time. Send the letter, wish him well and respect his wishes.

SheWasPureSound · 23/01/2025 11:28

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:26

@alizea Reading all your posts, I really think that you were too perfect as a parent.

Your son has never experienced bad parenting and so does not realise this.

This is the funniest post I’ve ever seen on here.

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:28

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:26

@alizea Reading all your posts, I really think that you were too perfect as a parent.

Your son has never experienced bad parenting and so does not realise this.

Have you REALLY read all the posts?!

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:27

TheRadiatorLady · 23/01/2025 11:25

Yes, this happened in my family too. My two (very manipulative) brothers were always prioritised and I do think that;'s because my parents were a bit fearful of them, so my sister and I have withdrawn a lot as a result.

I wish there was a 'support' or 'sympathise' emoji on here!

Jobsharenightmare · 23/01/2025 11:26

smellydog1 · 23/01/2025 11:07

I get this too. Genuinely worked so hard to give my Son the best that I could, moved to a lovely area when he was young, which was hard financially but had a great school. Lovely doting grandparents, holidays 3 x a year, skiing, Caribbean, his own bedroom with en-suite. He did real good, went to a top university, got a phd. Honestly thought I had done ok, only to be told by him that he is now in therapy cos he had an awful childhood. Flabbergasted!!

Edited

Have you ever seen the "but we took you to stately homes!" long running threads? I'm not suggesting you were emotionally neglectful but might be an eye opener.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 23/01/2025 11:26

@alizea Reading all your posts, I really think that you were too perfect as a parent.

Your son has never experienced bad parenting and so does not realise this.

TheRadiatorLady · 23/01/2025 11:25

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:22

OP - this is shocking tbh. You sound like you're slightly scared of your DD. Why is she ruling the roost in your house like this? It's becoming very, very clear that she is directly responsible for pushing her brother out. I've seen this dynamic before in my own family and it will end with both the other two siblings estranged from you, while you run around appeasing your DD1 for the rest of your life. Don't expect support from any of them at such a time when you might need it. OK so I am projecting a little here...but that's certainly one possible outcome, if you don't stop prioritising your DD1 at the expense of your other children. The problem is, it doesn't sound like you're capable of doing this.

Edited

Yes, this happened in my family too. My two (very manipulative) brothers were always prioritised and I do think that;'s because my parents were a bit fearful of them, so my sister and I have withdrawn a lot as a result.

SheWasPureSound · 23/01/2025 11:25

newyearusername · 23/01/2025 09:11

I would be inclined to pin him down before he goes by saying 'Can I just clarify that you do not wish to be contacted whilst you are away for any reason. So if for example either your father or I were to be diagnosed with cancer, or if your grandmother were to pass away, or your sister be hospitalised following an accident, then you don't want to know. Is this correct?'

Wow. You sound grossly manipulative.

At the end of the day, if he came on here and listed his upsets I bet a lot of people would cry to go NC! He’s 25. He’s fine. I’m 25 and I live alone, my parents don’t know about my life unless they ask. It’s not their business anymore.

AnonymousBleep · 23/01/2025 11:22

alizea · 23/01/2025 11:10

We will have a conversation tonight, perhaps banning the friend is the right choice I just know DD is going to kick off, call us enablers/victim blaming etc etc, tell us we are destroying what little social life she has.

DS messaged not long ago. He gave us his flight details and the phone number of the girl he is travelling with stipulating that if he hasn't posted on instagram in a week and we have tried to message him once and not received a reply in 3 days we can use that incase he has lost his phone or similar but under no other circumstances (barring family emergency) to contact him.

OP - this is shocking tbh. You sound like you're slightly scared of your DD. Why is she ruling the roost in your house like this? It's becoming very, very clear that she is directly responsible for pushing her brother out. I've seen this dynamic before in my own family and it will end with both the other two siblings estranged from you, while you run around appeasing your DD1 for the rest of your life. Don't expect support from any of them at such a time when you might need it. OK so I am projecting a little here...but that's certainly one possible outcome, if you don't stop prioritising your DD1 at the expense of your other children. The problem is, it doesn't sound like you're capable of doing this.

alizea · 23/01/2025 11:18

@Butchyrestingface

She expressed before the break up actually happened that he wasn't spending any time with her, this was while he was studying for his first CFA exam. At the time he did coaching 6-8pm 2 nights a week, then studied until gone 11. 2 nights he studied straight from work until 10/11. On Fridays they'd have a date night and spend Saturday until 2/3 with her then study again. Sunday he coached, 10-2, studied in the afternoon then went to hers to order a takeaway and spend the evening. We haven't heard anything else from her directly.

OP posts:
Whyherewego · 23/01/2025 11:17

alizea · 23/01/2025 11:10

We will have a conversation tonight, perhaps banning the friend is the right choice I just know DD is going to kick off, call us enablers/victim blaming etc etc, tell us we are destroying what little social life she has.

DS messaged not long ago. He gave us his flight details and the phone number of the girl he is travelling with stipulating that if he hasn't posted on instagram in a week and we have tried to message him once and not received a reply in 3 days we can use that incase he has lost his phone or similar but under no other circumstances (barring family emergency) to contact him.

No point in banning her now. DS has flown off. But a conversation about her respecting DS and his right to not have an ex in the house is definitely in order.
DS has given the instructions so just follow them (hope you sent the prior message apologising though). And work on what you will do when he returns

Butchyrestingface · 23/01/2025 11:15

alizea · 23/01/2025 11:10

We will have a conversation tonight, perhaps banning the friend is the right choice I just know DD is going to kick off, call us enablers/victim blaming etc etc, tell us we are destroying what little social life she has.

DS messaged not long ago. He gave us his flight details and the phone number of the girl he is travelling with stipulating that if he hasn't posted on instagram in a week and we have tried to message him once and not received a reply in 3 days we can use that incase he has lost his phone or similar but under no other circumstances (barring family emergency) to contact him.

Has your son's ex ever communicated her feelings to you directly on the relationship breakup and how she feels he treated her?

Is this all coming from your daughter? She sounds really emotionally manipulative.

Ponoka7 · 23/01/2025 11:13

alizea · 23/01/2025 11:10

We will have a conversation tonight, perhaps banning the friend is the right choice I just know DD is going to kick off, call us enablers/victim blaming etc etc, tell us we are destroying what little social life she has.

DS messaged not long ago. He gave us his flight details and the phone number of the girl he is travelling with stipulating that if he hasn't posted on instagram in a week and we have tried to message him once and not received a reply in 3 days we can use that incase he has lost his phone or similar but under no other circumstances (barring family emergency) to contact him.

That's for you and your DH, not anyone else. You don't need to share that.

Putdownthatglassgotoyoga · 23/01/2025 11:13

There's no way he's going to let you know anything about his girlfriend ATM because all he sees is his sisters and ex constantly laughing at him behind his back and his parents silently nodding along.

He won't feel comfortable being vulnerable with your family as there's no incentive for him to have any of you involved in his life. He's already financially and emotionally independent. Was an independent child while you ran around after his sisters from his experience. He's a good student and worker, a conscientious saver, has exciting future plans, he has a supportive network outside of your family.

He probably feels his life is actually better off limiting involvement because instead of ongoing doubt and embarrassment caused by your lack of support and gossiping he feels more confident and supported by others outside your family. Once your kids are adults it's not about what you think you're entitled to it's about what they feel comfortable sharing. You can't force anything. Without any bond of love or trust there's nothing there.

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