AIBU to be fed up with all the Keir Starmer threads

I think he’s a breath of fresh air and would vote Labour again if there were an election today.

My party? Rather presumptuous. I’m not wedded to any party and I didn’t vote for either of them 😂 As for painful, yes, it will be for the low and middle paid, no doubt about it as taxes rise and job losses increase. I’ll raise a glass to you all 🥂

That poll was done in September, just 2 months after the election. I might well have said “yes, I’m satisfied, at that point”. I’m certainly not now!

The December poll has the figure at 70%!

www.ipsos.com/en-uk/dissatisfaction-starmer-reaches-61-his-highest-labour-leader

Guardian

Business leaders plan to cut costs and rein in hiring in response to government tax increases set out in the autumn budget, with employment expectations taking the sharpest tumble since the start of the coronavirus pandemic.
A net two-thirds of finance directors said they did not expect to increase hiring levels this year, a four-year high, with a net 26% feeling more pessimistic about the prospects for their business than three months ago, the first time sentiment had slipped into negative territory in 18 months, according to the latest survey by the accountancy firm Deloitte.

More than half of finance directors rated cutting costs as their top priority – something that has not changed in almost a year. They said this would be their main response to increased national insurance costs for employers followed by raising productivity and then higher prices for customers.

BRILLIANT.

It really is.

Reeves is clearly out of her depth - its evidently not just me who thinks so - here are some comments from the BBC and FT (curiously the Guardian doesn’t seem to be running this story).

BBC
Ms Reeves - Please just resign. Then we can turn to all your other mistakes…..farmers IHT, ludicrous NIC increase, business property relief reductions, private (not public sector) pensions into IHT ……the list goes on and on.
987 likes

FT
‘While its always entertaining to see socialist nonsense colliding with reality, much of the damage of these vindictive measures has already been done. Many, many of the wealthy individuals who on average paid around £400,000 in income tax per annum, spent billions in the UK and were responsible for the creation of thousands of jobs have left and will not be coming back. But at least the lunatics who vote Labour will have had their spite sated.‘

Anyway, one gets the point, I hope.

Edit: the Guardian is, but no comments allowed.

It's idiotic though, many said this pre GE - and got the typical Labour backlash. Why so hopeless to not get how tax impacts behaviour

It's low level learning stuff

Wait until the train drivers, junior doctors and teachers all get shit pay rises this year. The folly of appeasing means no one remembers last year.

Reeves told an event hosted by the Wall Street Journal: "We have been listening to the concerns that have been raised by the non-dom community."

(But are completely happy to ignore the concerns of the ordinary UK electorate)

From the BBC’s comments section - that one has received, ooh, 1718 upticks so far.

True.

Remember Corbyn, during Labour’s anti-semitism implosion.

‘Reeves to soften UK non-dom tax reforms’
FT et al.

Good girl!

Trump even more so with that logic 😑

Say what you like about the tories, they are ruthless, generally, about getting rid of a poor leader. Labour on the other hand tolerate poor leaders for far too long. There has to be a better way, though looking at France, Germany, the US, Italy to name but a view I’m not so sure!

I’m not sure why you think I missed it. I was part of it 🤷. And yes, it means we didn’t have another conservative government. But I knew the risks of an alternative and, selfishly, knew that they were unlikely to really impact me. I feel sorry for those who thought that Labour had a clear, thought-through and coherent plan though. It now seems clear to many that they are making much of it up as they go along!

Don’t hold your breath, the total shower that is the Tory party were tolerated for 14 years.

Not when they’re saying the same drivel and bemoaning policy’s that clearly go against the Tory ideal. And as for economic illiterate policies look at your own party, there’s plenty there to whine about. Services don’t fund themselves particularly when they’ve been shamelessly run into the ground for 14 years. It’s going to be painful, get used to it.

Four and a half years. Huge majority. This government is going nowhere before 2029.

Keep your powder dry - this total shower will not be in long.

My hope is that Reeves takes down Starmer with her.

Worked brilliantly as in getting rid of a corrupt government that wouldn’t recognise the truth if it smacked them over the head.

I think you’re misinterpreting threads questioning what are clearly poorly thought through or economically illiterate policies as being pro Tory, It’s perfectly possible, and indeed normal, to question the government without being a Tory supporter…

But your post lost all credibility when you said you hadn’t met anyone who wasn’t pleased the UK has a Labour government. More that 60% of the electorate are dissatisfied.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/more-6-10-britons-dissatisfied-how-government-running-country

Erm, worked brilliantly? - that’s still playing out but its looking like an utter horlicks so far.

Be honest with yourself for a moment.

Do you really believe that, by increased taxation alone, there will be a material improvement in public services?

Do you really believe that improving ‘equality’ will drive better outcomes for the average person, and if so, how?

I find the notion, on both points, to be incredibly naive.

Two thirds of the electorate didn’t vote for Labour

Clearly you somehow managed to miss GTTO. There was a huge amount of tactical voting to ensure we didn’t end up with yet another Conservative government. It worked brilliantly too.

Not referring to individual posters disagreeing with my point of view but most definitely referring to the laughable pro Tory and far right threads started daily in AIBU. Nice try!

Ironic?