To be alarmed at Starmers plans

The talk is of peacekeepers going to Ukraine after a ceasefire to deter any further attacks. Not of UK troops fighting a war.

There is no point having a "peace" that simply allows Putin to rebuild his forces and attack again. Which he would want to do as he's made it clear that he doesn't think Ukraine has a right to exist as an independent state. How else are we going to deter him?

As for the Kremlin stooges on here, don't make me laugh! Putin is not scared of NATO invading, if he was he wouldn't have left his borders undefended while murdering his neighbours. And the "sacred Russian territory" he's so concerned about is now mostly in ruins.

Thought that was scheduled to happen during the first 24 hours of his presidency. I am sure he said he was simply going to phone Putin and that would be that. Trump lying? surely not!

THIS.

Trump is an isolationist, his MAGA crowd HATE foreign war, this is a main who thinks Spain is a BRIC nation. My DC knows what BRIC stands for FFS...

This has passed me by and I am a bit of a news junkie, can the OP add some detail

So you have worked in the foreign office or like to guess?

You are wrong and it's not great when un-informed people bullshit.

There are decisions taken by politicians contrary to our security needs which cost us billions of dollars a year, they take these decisions because of political pressure and hysteria.

Fewer people saying less would be overall better for everyone.

Good point. What are the possible "sanctions", I wonder?

Problem is that there are not a lot of imports from Russia and you cannot impose tariffs on nonexistent trade.

Not sure l would be listening to Putin on this...

He has one son. He is below military age.

What are these nuances?

He has a better chance than anyone else in last two years, for the ME too

So many young men dying each day in this war, it's horrendous

Much as I can't stand the man, I agree.

Not coming back to your thread with a link @Rubytuesday77

What a shock.

Hopefully he's successful and puts an end to it once and for all.

There is already a target on the UK, a country with one of the highest terrorist threat levels that never seems to go down. My children were born in the UK, British citizens. I understand what it means to want to keep your children safe, that’s why I still reside here. We have relocated family and friends from Ukraine, not under a funded scheme but from our own funds. But we have two nephews, an uncle and family friends who have already paid the price with their lives. The threats from terror groups are higher than that of Putin, you realise that the UK is constantly on high alert for terrorism? But you still go about your everyday life. Unless your children are in the military then they are unlikely to be killed by Putin, but a far higher chance of being killed by another teenager with a knife or a terrorist attack. As a British person, it is unlikely in your lifetime that you will ever know the cost of true freedom - because you have never lived under occupation or through war.

But a war we should never have been involved with anyway. Same old story repeating itself. The rest of Europe is probably laughing themselves silly - ‘let the UK go and sort it, they always like to flex their muscles and put themselves in the middle of everything. Idiots’

There is that

Much as I disagreed with the war in Iraq, Blair sent the military, there was no conscription.

I often think that many of the ills of today's world are caused by people believing, without any checking, any old bollocks they read on SM.

Thanks. That's next year's Christmas presents sorted.

Link please? All that has been reported is UK personnel's possible role in peacekeeping.

And that’s sad, but surely you understand then that people want to keep their families safe? That we don’t want to put a target on our backs?

Why does MN allow the site to host blatant disinformation? It is ridiculous.

I'd hazard a guess that any back and forth between Trump and Putin has already been rehearsed and scheduled and pre-planned. Regarding Starmer, you have to remember that though is relatively new to the post of prime minister, the people working in the military and ministry of defence are not new, and they will be working very closely together. Better or worse than anyone else, who can say, but I'd not look to most newspapers to inform my opinion of how well Starmer is or isn't doing. We're already at war, the constant technological attacks, ships, planes, drones, the countries funding Russia, we're already well and truly in it.

Well the orange one is talking tough.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/trump-threatens-putin-with-taxes-tariffs-and-sanctions-over-ukraine-war