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To be alarmed at Starmers plans

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Rubytuesday77 · 22/01/2025 16:43

Anybody else worried about his ongoing plans for deeper involvement in Ukraine. In an interview yesterday he said he intends to send our troops out there. Surely this would mean we’d be at war with Russia! Anyone else very concerned.

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apricitykomorebi · 22/01/2025 16:58

I have been following the conflict in Ukraine since 2014. It is not as straightforward as the papers and other MSM lead us to believe, i.e. it's not entirely unprovoked and it's not "all Russia's fault" as they tell us. It's much more nuanced than that, and I must say I have been quite concerned that there is not at the very minimum more people in the government that at least call for some caution! Everyone is constantly running around all guns blazing calling for more and more offensive weapons to be sent to Ukraine and more and more money to keep this war going. Unfortunately, this only means more deaths and more destruction for Ukraine and brings us closer to the brink of either WWIII or a nuclear war and frankly I am not that sure that anyone in the government fully comprehends the implications. It's been too long since WWII and it's as if everyone has forgotten what it means to live through such a horrific event!

In what way is it not entirely unprovoked and not all Russia's fault?

MangoNo55 · 22/01/2025 17:03

I think it’s only a matter of time before Trump says he’s no longer supporting the Ukraine so they need to negotiate with Putin to bring this war to a close.
Trump doesn’t want to spend a dime outside the US.

Starmer may just be trying to make himself look good knowing that it’ll be over before he has to do anything more.

zerogrey · 22/01/2025 16:59

Once just once

Could someone post with a link

apricitykomorebi · 22/01/2025 16:58

I have been following the conflict in Ukraine since 2014. It is not as straightforward as the papers and other MSM lead us to believe, i.e. it's not entirely unprovoked and it's not "all Russia's fault" as they tell us. It's much more nuanced than that, and I must say I have been quite concerned that there is not at the very minimum more people in the government that at least call for some caution! Everyone is constantly running around all guns blazing calling for more and more offensive weapons to be sent to Ukraine and more and more money to keep this war going. Unfortunately, this only means more deaths and more destruction for Ukraine and brings us closer to the brink of either WWIII or a nuclear war and frankly I am not that sure that anyone in the government fully comprehends the implications. It's been too long since WWII and it's as if everyone has forgotten what it means to live through such a horrific event!

Reallybadidea · 22/01/2025 16:45

Link please, because what I read was that he didn't rule it out, not that he said he would

amigafan2003 · 22/01/2025 16:44

About time imho

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