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To wonder if Starmer can survive the vibe-shift?

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User09678 · 22/01/2025 12:25

Trump has been going hell for leather since his inauguration it seems, things are changing fast - Trump likes the UK, but he doesn't like Starmer. Starmer seems out of sync with the changing tide, and seems (to me) to get it wrong and make it worse everytime he opens his mouth. AIBU in wondering how long Starmer can hang on?

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nellly · 22/01/2025 12:29

Not sure the tide is turning the same way in the UK in fact as many western governments are electing more right wing we went more left wing. Why do you assume we're a carbon copy of the US?

We didn't go "more left wing". Labour's vote in 2024 wasn't more than it was under Corbyn in 2019. Labour won because the Tory vote collapsed due to the sheer number of Tories who changed their votes to Reform or the LibDems. The majority who moved to Reform clearly shows a Right wing swing, not a left wing swing. The tide towards the Right is happening right across Europe including the UK.

ByMerryKoala · 22/01/2025 12:37

It's not just Trump. Upcoming elections in Canada and Germany will demonstrate a loss of faith in left leaning parties more broadly. There does seem to be a trend and I wouldn't be surprised if this will feed the rising popularity for Reform and this will be the real headache for Starmer.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 22/01/2025 12:37

The majority of Brits think Trump is a misogynist abuser of women, a dinosaur looking backward at 20th Century ways of doing things, a spineless lack of ambition, afraid of change, afraid of progress, wringing every last drop of money out of the working class with his coterie of oligarchs and weirdbros.

Fuck him, fuck Lowe / Tice / Farage et al too, our home grown oligarchs - we’re better than that.

EasternStandard · 22/01/2025 12:34

Fair question. Maybe, maybe not but he’s not got much to leverage whereas the US / Trump could make things much harder for him.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/01/2025 12:32

The UK is a democracy, the US is a democracy. Both elect their own Governments.
You can disapprove, have a grumble, whatever.

It is frightfully off to try and over throw a democracy.

Bejinxed · 22/01/2025 12:29

Probably. As Labour have got a pretty massive majority, the only way he'd be out is if the Labour party got rid of him and put someone else in his place and there isn't anyone who'd be more popular with Trump. He's not going to call an election before he has to.

nellly · 22/01/2025 12:29

Not sure the tide is turning the same way in the UK in fact as many western governments are electing more right wing we went more left wing. Why do you assume we're a carbon copy of the US?

randomchap · 22/01/2025 12:28

He's got a massive parliamentary majority. That is not going to change.

Also Trump is an abhorrent bell-end. The only thing he likes is money and power.

Berga · 22/01/2025 12:27

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