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To wonder if Starmer can survive the vibe-shift?

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User09678 · 22/01/2025 12:25

Trump has been going hell for leather since his inauguration it seems, things are changing fast - Trump likes the UK, but he doesn't like Starmer. Starmer seems out of sync with the changing tide, and seems (to me) to get it wrong and make it worse everytime he opens his mouth. AIBU in wondering how long Starmer can hang on?

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/01/2025 13:52

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Agree.

PandoraSox · 22/01/2025 13:51

Riapia · 22/01/2025 13:45

Of course Starmer will survive.
Nobody knows what his opinion is on anything, he never seems to have a point of view. The slippery fucker will survive until someone can pin him down on any subject at all.
“He’s a real nowhere man
living in a nowhere land
making lots of nowhere plans for nobody.”

Nobody knows what his opinion is on anything

I would say he has expressed some pretty strong opinions in recent days. That is why the likes of the Nicotine Frog and his boot-lickers are upset.

Katypp · 22/01/2025 13:50

The first two responses are absolute mn classics.
OP: Here is question that invites a response but indicates I do not necessarily think Starmer is fabulous
P1: You must be a Tory bot
P2: I won't answer your question but will call someone else names.

EasternStandard · 22/01/2025 13:49

ByMerryKoala · 22/01/2025 13:43

If only 45% of british people are very unhappy, or 53% are either very or fairly unhappy with Trump, then they see him more favourably than the British people see Starmer.

Good point, Starmer’s not doing too well

Riapia · 22/01/2025 13:45

Of course Starmer will survive.
Nobody knows what his opinion is on anything, he never seems to have a point of view. The slippery fucker will survive until someone can pin him down on any subject at all.
“He’s a real nowhere man
living in a nowhere land
making lots of nowhere plans for nobody.”

ByMerryKoala · 22/01/2025 13:43

If only 45% of british people are very unhappy, or 53% are either very or fairly unhappy with Trump, then they see him more favourably than the British people see Starmer.

PandoraSox · 22/01/2025 13:41

User09678 · 22/01/2025 13:25

No, I'm a bot

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If you are a bot, you should be ignored.

If you think that the rioters and arsonists who used the Southport atrocities as an excuse to vent their hatred are "political dissidents", you should be ignored.

Notonthestairs · 22/01/2025 13:39

YouGov survey from 20/1/25 indicates the British public aren't too keen on Trump.

To wonder if Starmer can survive the vibe-shift?
HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/01/2025 13:34

User09678 · 22/01/2025 13:25

No, I'm a bot

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Then what are you?

You seem to be implying that a change of President in the US could, should or would lead to the UK Prime Minister being over thrown.

ExtraOnions · 22/01/2025 13:33

Wait until

there are a few measles epidemics
Diabetics are dying through no insulin
Pollution on the up from unfettered oil & gas drilling
Crops rotting in the fields
Healthcare unaffordable for all
Zero workers rights

…and let’s see how much people want to follow the US then.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/01/2025 13:29

The last 10 years have given a wonky view on how UK elections work. Starmer will very likely hold on until the next election, which will probably be 2029.

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User09678 · 22/01/2025 13:25

PandoraSox · 22/01/2025 13:10

@User09678 thinks that jailed rioters and arsonists are "political dissidents".

No, I'm a bot

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JHound · 22/01/2025 13:24

YoureLucky · 22/01/2025 13:17

I think Trump's more right wing policies and sentiments particularly around borders and gender ideology opens the doors for other countries to start questioning the status quo and what everyone has taken for granted for so long. He will have an impact over here.

What status quo?

People have been whining about mass immigration in the UK since the 50s. And people will continue to whine about or for the next millennia.

YoureLucky · 22/01/2025 13:17

I think Trump's more right wing policies and sentiments particularly around borders and gender ideology opens the doors for other countries to start questioning the status quo and what everyone has taken for granted for so long. He will have an impact over here.

JHound · 22/01/2025 13:11

PandoraSox · 22/01/2025 13:10

@User09678 thinks that jailed rioters and arsonists are "political dissidents".

Ah ok!

They probably support asylum seeker families being burned alive.

JHound · 22/01/2025 13:10

taxguru · 22/01/2025 12:37

We didn't go "more left wing". Labour's vote in 2024 wasn't more than it was under Corbyn in 2019. Labour won because the Tory vote collapsed due to the sheer number of Tories who changed their votes to Reform or the LibDems. The majority who moved to Reform clearly shows a Right wing swing, not a left wing swing. The tide towards the Right is happening right across Europe including the UK.

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Our main left parties combined still outdid Tories and Reform combined. I do agree Far Right populism is growing in The West though.

PandoraSox · 22/01/2025 13:10

@User09678 thinks that jailed rioters and arsonists are "political dissidents".

Billydavey · 22/01/2025 13:09

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Cattreesea · 22/01/2025 13:09

The 'vibe' in the US is not replicated in the UK.

Most of us don't want anything to do with Trump's nonsense or with his Nazi salute giving billionaire cronies.

JHound · 22/01/2025 13:07

We believe in democracy and democratic elections.

With another election not due for another 5 years why would Labour seek to remove him?

PandoraSox · 22/01/2025 13:05

So many threads like this. It is almost as if the OP's of such threads don't understand how democracy works in the UK.

Even if by some remote chance Starmer was forced to step down by his own party, we'd still have a Labour government.

Maybe Rayner could step in if it does happen.

nellly · 22/01/2025 12:57

@taxguru we've selected a nominally more left wing government than our previous one.

The reasons behind are complicated but it is who we've elected and it's different to the USA so not sure why op thinks there's some inevitable link to Starmer's decline 🤷🏻‍♀️

CranfordScones · 22/01/2025 12:48

I think you need to find another job.

GlobalCitz · 22/01/2025 12:44

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Agreed

ByMerryKoala · 22/01/2025 12:39

Were Labour's win a vote in confidence for Starmer, rather than a rejection of the Tory party, then he and the party wouldn't have seem such a startling drop in popularity over the last six months.