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To wonder if Starmer can survive the vibe-shift?

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User09678 · 22/01/2025 12:25

Trump has been going hell for leather since his inauguration it seems, things are changing fast - Trump likes the UK, but he doesn't like Starmer. Starmer seems out of sync with the changing tide, and seems (to me) to get it wrong and make it worse everytime he opens his mouth. AIBU in wondering how long Starmer can hang on?

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Feelingathomenow · 27/01/2025 17:52

I suspect the course of this government will be Starmer gone by the end of the year the Labour sacrificial lamb of Raynor in for a couple of years then they will choose someone to match the general feeling on the country about 18 months before the next election who will decry everything Raynor and Starmer have done.

As an aside are there really this many Labour voters who think the country elected Starmer- we don’t elect leaders on general elections we vote for our MPs .

I suspect Reform or Reform /Tory strategic coalition with agreed spreed of candidates in the constituencies will be where the country heads next election

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:35

Maybe at Labour central 183 jobs identifies as 30000? And Sunderland is both relevant and irrelevant to job creation. And everything is going super, super well.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 16:32

Haha

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:31

🤣🤣🤣

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:28

Nobody apologises for that. There would be entire threads full of nothing but apologies. And you still haven’t told me who I’m supposed to apologise to.

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:27

Just for disseminating total and utter codswallop.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:25

Who do you suggest I apologise to @ByMerryKoala? Who have I offended?

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 16:15

Oh lordy we're at that posting stage with the crying laughing emoji.

Interest in jobs just no care for those lost due to the budget

People really are committed to their party no matter what

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:13

It matters to Sunderland.

You can't claim the Labour has made a massive difference to one of the most deprived areas the UK and then not even stop to apologise that you didn't know the figure was 183 and not 30000.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:12

What’s pot? 😂

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:11

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:10

Does that matter? 30,000 new jobs is a positive, surely?

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Pot matters to Sunderland, doesn't it? 183 jobs Vs 30 000.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:11

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:10

No, not supporting jobs, jobs in the wider supply.

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What’s the difference? Jobs are jobs.

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:10

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:07

And another 400 supporting jobs. As well as all the other jobs spread across the UK.

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No, not supporting jobs, jobs in the wider supply.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:10

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:07

Not 30 000 jobs for Sunderland though, is it?

Does that matter? 30,000 new jobs is a positive, surely?

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 16:08

6 months later my stance on that is unchanged.

You're in a shrinking pool of unchanged

Public sector?

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:07

Not 30 000 jobs for Sunderland though, is it?

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:07

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:05

The 183 jobs?

And another 400 supporting jobs. As well as all the other jobs spread across the UK.

JHound · 27/01/2025 16:06

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 15:36

I don’t understand the current obsession with polls. There’s 90% of this parliament still to go.

This. I could understand obession with polls if an election was imminent but it’s not. So…shrugs

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:06

And I was wrong before, it's an additional 400 jobs in the wider supply. Have a read

JHound · 27/01/2025 16:05

Katypp · 27/01/2025 14:07

Nope, it's something I struggle with.
Still slightly aghast at the threads when Labour won, tbh, proclaiming a new era, the grown-ups were in charge now etc.
I wonder if those posters are still so blindingly optimistic six months in?

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I never had that reaction but I was exceptionally glad to see the back of the Tories.

6 months later my stance on that is unchanged.

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:05

The 183 jobs?

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 16:03

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 15:59

It's not 30000 jobs in Sunderland, the manufacturing plant is in Sunderland but the jobs are spread throughout the UK, across all the sectors that Nissan has anything to do with. They've been talking about this for years, Labour didn't pull it out of its arse in the last six months.

This government got it over the line.

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 16:02

Massive boost for UK motor industry as £50 million investment deal secured - GOV.UK https://www.gov.uk/government/news/massive-boost-for-uk-motor-industry-as-50-million-investment-deal-secured

183 new jobs for the region

ByMerryKoala · 27/01/2025 15:59

It's not 30000 jobs in Sunderland, the manufacturing plant is in Sunderland but the jobs are spread throughout the UK, across all the sectors that Nissan has anything to do with. They've been talking about this for years, Labour didn't pull it out of its arse in the last six months.

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 15:49

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 13:41

If you were concerned about jobs you’d be delighted that 30,000 are being created in one of the least economically prosperous parts of the country.

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It's the North East so nobody will care, unfortunately. Not a dig at the NE, I live there.

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