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Breastfeeding and MN. Why so different to IRL?

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Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 09:57

I had read many many threads on here about the " restrictions" of breastfeeding. This morning is a child free wedding that the OP will apparently be EBF an 8 week old. This is a common theme. All these EBF babies.

Yet in real life there are only about half of babies that are still BF ( even partly)at all by 6-8 weeks
And only 1% EBF at six months

So why does it seem about99% of mumsnet babies are exclusively breastfed for months on end?

OP posts:
MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/01/2025 18:46

Yellow889 · 22/01/2025 18:37

@Gogogo12345 I paid for a lactation consultant. She was a midwife that took extra courses and knew lots about beastfeeding. I paid her to do the job that the midwives should be doing in hospital but they don't have the time. The midwives in hospital were completely useless and really not even around. The only think the midwife in hospital asked me is do I want to bottle feed? Lol.

The lactation consultant visited me in hospital, showed me how to do it, checked the baby for any issues and then visited me home a few days later and answered questions I had, showed me different positions to breastfeed, put pillows around my sofa to be comfortable etc. She was then available via message if I had any questions.

I wouldn't be breastfeeding without her.

I imagine the cost of the lactation consultant was a lot less than the cost of a year's worth of formula.

Lottie6712 · 22/01/2025 18:42

Parker231 · 22/01/2025 17:21

There are numerous threads with people wanting to ask the bride and groom whether they can bring their baby to a baby/child free wedding. I can’t understand why they don’t read the invitation to check who is invited and then accept or decline. It’s not complicated or a big issue.

I agree it's inappropriate and rude for people with children to ask if they can bring them to a childfree wedding if it's clearly childfree (up to the bride and groom as you say. We once went to a wedding where someone had brought their child despite being told they shouldn't!? So awful). However, I have had a couple of weddings I've politely declined as they were child free and I was breastfeeding - and I got quite a bit of stick for my choice! One friend asked if I could leave my two week old baby in the parking lot with my husband so I could go to the wedding and just pop out to feed the baby every so often... (It was also about 35 degrees that day and about 2 hours away from my home). She asked me quite a few times and I know she still thinks I made an unreasonable choice by not giving the baby formula and leaving the baby at home so I could attend. Again, nothing wrong with formula, but I'm contributing to the OP's original question of why these breastfeeding queries come up fairly often. I think if someone doesn't know anyone who breastfeeds, it's all quite alien and different in comparison to formula feeding. (And as someone previously said, fed is best and all methods have pros and cons!)

DecafHazelnutLatte · 22/01/2025 18:37

I haven't read the full thread. When it comes to the discussion around why certain demographics are more likely to breastfeed (i.e. that educated, middle class women are statistically more likely to breastfeed). Is it not more a case of who can take a longer maternity leave? I am from a very working class background and my Mum said she would have liked to breastfeed but my family relied on her also bringing in an income and she went back to her supermarket job in the evenings when all of us siblings were six weeks old. She couldn't risk having a baby who wouldn't take a bottle. I grew up to work in a very middle class profession and moved to a much more affluent area where breastfeeding is the norm and new mothers are able to take a more lengthy maternity leave. I was very over zealous about breastfeeding before I actually had my baby! In reality I found it to be a miserable experience. I continued until my baby was six weeks old. I had plenty of support and no physical reason why I couldn't, I just unexpectedly really hated the feel of it. I was a much happier Mum when formula feeding.

Yellow889 · 22/01/2025 18:37

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 16:13

Lactation consultants?. Well no wonder it's the well off that breastfeed. Doubt the average shop worker can afford such things

@Gogogo12345 I paid for a lactation consultant. She was a midwife that took extra courses and knew lots about beastfeeding. I paid her to do the job that the midwives should be doing in hospital but they don't have the time. The midwives in hospital were completely useless and really not even around. The only think the midwife in hospital asked me is do I want to bottle feed? Lol.

The lactation consultant visited me in hospital, showed me how to do it, checked the baby for any issues and then visited me home a few days later and answered questions I had, showed me different positions to breastfeed, put pillows around my sofa to be comfortable etc. She was then available via message if I had any questions.

I wouldn't be breastfeeding without her.

Parker231 · 22/01/2025 17:21

Unpaidviewer · 22/01/2025 17:16

I never said it wasn't.

There are numerous threads with people wanting to ask the bride and groom whether they can bring their baby to a baby/child free wedding. I can’t understand why they don’t read the invitation to check who is invited and then accept or decline. It’s not complicated or a big issue.

Unpaidviewer · 22/01/2025 17:16

Parker231 · 22/01/2025 17:12

We had a 100% baby and child free wedding. Everyone was aware so wasn’t an issue. We have also been invited to numerous baby and child free weddings. Totally up to the individual bride and groom.

I never said it wasn't.

Parker231 · 22/01/2025 17:12

Unpaidviewer · 22/01/2025 16:58

Good point about the childfree weddings. I've attended lots of weddings but never a childfree one.

I'm planning to continue BFing but I won't be honest with family about it. There must be quite a few women who have done the same.

We had a 100% baby and child free wedding. Everyone was aware so wasn’t an issue. We have also been invited to numerous baby and child free weddings. Totally up to the individual bride and groom.

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 17:10

Fetburzswefg · 22/01/2025 16:37

You can also get decent support from your midwife or health visitor (though these can vary hugely, some are much better than others!).

Not my DDs experience with a tongue tied baby. Answer was " oh just give him a bottle"

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Unpaidviewer · 22/01/2025 16:58

Trambopoline · 22/01/2025 16:34

OP to your original point I think you see it a lot on here because children at weddings seems to be a hot topic, however FF babies can be left at home, BF ones can’t - obviously there will be exceptions! If someone invited me to a wedding, or any all day event, where I couldn’t bring my baby, I’d say sorry I can’t make it. But we’re all different and I guess it’s not that easy for everyone.

I was having a chat with a friend recently who is breastfeeding her 2yo daughter, outside of immediate family I’m the only one who knows because she says people think she’s weird for doing it. I fed my eldest until 18 months when I was heavily pregnant with my second and got the occasional odd look if I fed in public but couldn’t have given less shits if I’m honest. Why is it less acceptable to feed your older baby or toddler breast milk than it is to give them a happy meal?!

Good point about the childfree weddings. I've attended lots of weddings but never a childfree one.

I'm planning to continue BFing but I won't be honest with family about it. There must be quite a few women who have done the same.

jolota · 22/01/2025 16:54

I breastfed my daughter for 2 years but I was in the minority in my social circle.
3 combi fed for 6 months before stopping breastfeeding.
2 fed formula only
1 breastfed until 1 with her first and 6 months with her second
My baby would not take a bottle though & didn't take to solids well either but I also didn't mind breastfeeding. I found it a nice to sit down and chill. I definitely missed out on a few opportunities when my daughter was young and couldn't be without me for too long. But its a short period in the grand scheme of my life and I expected to miss out on some events when I had a child.

oboeannie · 22/01/2025 16:46

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 10:15

Why would you lie about feeding a baby lol

Well, in the example you gave to encourage the frothing about child free weddings maybe? Poor baby starving without its mother blah blah blah!!

RareFinch · 22/01/2025 16:45

My local children's center has a weekly breastfeeding support group. And breastfeeding support workers are stationed at the hospital when you give birth. But as a PP said, support varies in different areas. As I said, most of the mums I met did breastfeed so I am surprised by the stats. I live in near a small market town in Yorkshire where jobs are pretty limited. Certainly not a fancy middle class area in the South.

Fetburzswefg · 22/01/2025 16:37

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 16:13

Lactation consultants?. Well no wonder it's the well off that breastfeed. Doubt the average shop worker can afford such things

You can also get decent support from your midwife or health visitor (though these can vary hugely, some are much better than others!).

Trambopoline · 22/01/2025 16:34

OP to your original point I think you see it a lot on here because children at weddings seems to be a hot topic, however FF babies can be left at home, BF ones can’t - obviously there will be exceptions! If someone invited me to a wedding, or any all day event, where I couldn’t bring my baby, I’d say sorry I can’t make it. But we’re all different and I guess it’s not that easy for everyone.

I was having a chat with a friend recently who is breastfeeding her 2yo daughter, outside of immediate family I’m the only one who knows because she says people think she’s weird for doing it. I fed my eldest until 18 months when I was heavily pregnant with my second and got the occasional odd look if I fed in public but couldn’t have given less shits if I’m honest. Why is it less acceptable to feed your older baby or toddler breast milk than it is to give them a happy meal?!

Chipsahoy · 22/01/2025 16:28

I would say 80% of mums I met did breastfeed. But also I met a lot at breastfeeding groups. Cousin and sister in law breastfed. I breastfed mine.

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/01/2025 16:27

Bjorkdidit · 22/01/2025 16:21

Likely the same for NCT classes.

It's a strange situation that seems common in the UK.

Well off people disproportionately take the less expensive option.

Poorer people do the thing that is more expensive.

I think the difference is that it is an expensive up front cost whereas formula adds up to an expensive cost after 6-12 months.

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 16:26

Haroldwilson · 22/01/2025 16:18

Not to be snarky, but lactation consultants cost less than 6-12 months of formula.

I assume they don't allow you to spread the cost over 6-12 months rhough

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Unpaidviewer · 22/01/2025 16:23

I definitely feel the pressure to stop BFing and the judgement when we visit family. Both DH and I are from a council estate background and I don't think anyone in either family breastfed. Im very determined and headstrong but it does make me feel uncomfortable. Being surrounded by like minded, supportive people is a bigger deal than I expected.

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/01/2025 16:23

Haroldwilson · 22/01/2025 16:18

Not to be snarky, but lactation consultants cost less than 6-12 months of formula.

If you are very low income, you can get healthy start vouchers which covers formula.

Bjorkdidit · 22/01/2025 16:21

Haroldwilson · 22/01/2025 16:18

Not to be snarky, but lactation consultants cost less than 6-12 months of formula.

Likely the same for NCT classes.

It's a strange situation that seems common in the UK.

Well off people disproportionately take the less expensive option.

Poorer people do the thing that is more expensive.

Parker231 · 22/01/2025 16:21

Haroldwilson · 22/01/2025 16:18

Not to be snarky, but lactation consultants cost less than 6-12 months of formula.

And there are many posts where posters have used a lactation consultant and it hasn’t worked and money has been wasted

Haroldwilson · 22/01/2025 16:18

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 16:13

Lactation consultants?. Well no wonder it's the well off that breastfeed. Doubt the average shop worker can afford such things

Not to be snarky, but lactation consultants cost less than 6-12 months of formula.

Ladamesansmerci · 22/01/2025 16:14

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 09:57

I had read many many threads on here about the " restrictions" of breastfeeding. This morning is a child free wedding that the OP will apparently be EBF an 8 week old. This is a common theme. All these EBF babies.

Yet in real life there are only about half of babies that are still BF ( even partly)at all by 6-8 weeks
And only 1% EBF at six months

So why does it seem about99% of mumsnet babies are exclusively breastfed for months on end?

Because prolonged breastfeeding is more common amongst the middle class, which Mumsnet is full of.

I'm working class, but baby is still EBF at 7 months. You're right though, most people I know sack it off quickly or bottle feed.

Just an edit to say, it DOES NOT MATTER how you feed baby, as long as they're growing and healthy. There are pros and cons to all types of feeding.

Gogogo12345 · 22/01/2025 16:13

mollyfolk · 22/01/2025 13:48

@Gogogo12345

It doesn't kind of make sense though. Formula is expensive so surely if you have less income it's an expense you could do without

That's a simplistic way to look at it. Breastfeeding consists of front loaded work and often expenses- it's a heavy workload at the start so you need the headspace to do it. I am a mother with a good job and no money worries and a supportive DH so it was a lot easier for me to do this work at the beginning than someone under stress. There can also be expenses at the beginning with private lactation consultants /pumps ... many bfing journeys start off bumpy.

You also need to be convinced of those benefits so you have the motivation- that's where family history and culture comes into it. If you don't know anyone who was breastfed and you were not yourself then it's not really clear why you would do it.

Lactation consultants?. Well no wonder it's the well off that breastfeed. Doubt the average shop worker can afford such things

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BoredZelda · 22/01/2025 16:05

Out of my 8 person NCT group, 1 formula-fed, 1 exclusively pumped, and everyone else breastfed.

The demographic who can afford an NCT class are the ones most likely to breastfeed.