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To ensuite or not to ensuite?

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PorridgeOatsSuck · 22/01/2025 08:37

Currently planning a property for resale. Architect has insisted on an ensuite for every bedroom plus family bathroom but that makes everything tight. I would instead prefer to use some of the space for an office reflecting the change of use of our homes since 2020. Nevertheless, I'm told by a professional house designer this is the way forward, people expect ensuites. I have freinds who like to flip properties and they always squeeze ensuites into any available space which I have always thought absurd.

AIBU to think ensuites have become something of a noughties obsession. Times have changed and there is a greater emphasis on time in the home be that spent working, working out or for hobbies. The world is awakening to the fact that more ensuites mean more white surfaces to clean and who wants to sleep in a room their partner has just taken a dump in?

Or am I just a twentieth century anachronism. Every bedroom should ideally have its own ensuite because sharing is grim.

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Adelstrop · 24/01/2025 08:05

I love my ensuite; it means essentially I have a bathroom to myself. I don’t understand the worry about using the toilet - there is a door on the en-suite, a window that can be opened and an extractor fan! The toilet isn’t at the end of the bed! It’s rather like saying your downstairs toilet is in the hall.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 24/01/2025 07:59

A friend of mine has just settled her divorce & is house hunting to buy.
I've been going with her as a second pair of eyes (& because I love looking around houses)
OMG some of the en suites are awful, so small you can barely get in & shut the door & then they make the bedroom small.

Better rooms & family bathrooms

kiraric · 24/01/2025 07:34

JaninaDuszejko · 24/01/2025 07:19

So where do your children shower? If we had this set up we'd have the teenagers in our room or the guest room continually to use the shower. Only small children have baths.

Yeah I am a bit surprised by how many people would want an en suite for the guest room

If I am going to pay for an extra bathroom in my house, I want it to be easily accessible to the people who live in the house, not for guests. Any guests who have an issue with using the family bathroom can go and stay in a hotel..

JaninaDuszejko · 24/01/2025 07:19

123feraverto · 22/01/2025 20:36

We have two en-suite , our bedroom and the guest room
Along with a family bathroom (doesn't have a shower only a bath ) and a downstairs toilet

Our old house we had the family bathroom and one en-suite , but no downstairs toilet

Our guest en-suite is very small , not really an everyday using size I would say it's a narrow space - shower one end , door and sink in the middle and toilet the other - it does have a window behind the toilet

So where do your children shower? If we had this set up we'd have the teenagers in our room or the guest room continually to use the shower. Only small children have baths.

Purpleturtle46 · 24/01/2025 07:12

I'm so shocking by the number of people who hate en-suites! I love mine, so handy for during the night pees and love having a separate toilet from the kids! I would struggle without one now!

Flossflower · 23/01/2025 17:34

OP, I think anyone who sees that there is a bedroom downstairs would just count the house as having one bedroom less. When we bought our house, it was marketed as a 5 bedroom house 🤣. No way. It was a four bedroom house and the one downstairs was a study.

123feraverto · 22/01/2025 20:36

We have two en-suite , our bedroom and the guest room
Along with a family bathroom (doesn't have a shower only a bath ) and a downstairs toilet

Our old house we had the family bathroom and one en-suite , but no downstairs toilet

Our guest en-suite is very small , not really an everyday using size I would say it's a narrow space - shower one end , door and sink in the middle and toilet the other - it does have a window behind the toilet

Tisthedamnseason · 22/01/2025 15:45

An en suite in every room would annoy me because it's such a waste of space, especially if it's been added to an existing house and the rooms carved up weirdly.

I like having an en suite if it's done properly. But for second and third bedrooms I'd rather have the extra bedroom space.

I agree OP that one en suite upstairs, along with the family bathroom, plus an en suite in your downstairs guest room, is totally fine.

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/01/2025 15:35

GasPanic · 22/01/2025 12:20

I think they are great and save you stumbling round a house in the middle of the night, especially when you are older.

A lot of people moan about how can you possibly have a toilet next to a bedroom. Probably because they are pissed off that they don't have one.

Here's the good news. You can use them how you want to. And how many people do you know that wake up and do sleep shattering bowel movements in the middle of the night.

Still, I think one or two in a house to take the pressure off the main bathroom if you have a family or guests is probably enough and one for every bedroom a bit extreme unless you have pots of money and access to a cleaning team.

How many people do you know who "stumble" walking a few feet to a hall bathroom?

JaninaDuszejko · 22/01/2025 15:11

@GasPanic two doors away preferably.

GasPanic · 22/01/2025 15:04

How far away does a toilet have to be from your bed in order for it to be acceptable toileting ?

In my house one of the bedrooms is adjacent to the bathroom. Someones head could be literally inches from someone sitting on the toilet through the stud wall. Urgh.

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 22/01/2025 15:00

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/01/2025 11:24

Why on earth would you want to hear someone using the toilet a few feet from your bed?

Ugh. I'll go down the hall, thanks. An en suite would turn me off buying a house.

Well yes, exactly. Did you mean to tag a different post?

ChristmasFluff · 22/01/2025 14:52

I think once you get to 4 bedrooms then it's really nice to have one en-suite, especially when there's a full house. But in a two story house that's the most you need. I'd go for a downstairs loo rather than a second upstairs en-suite any time.

In every bedroom it would put me off - no need and a waste of space. I've only ever had an en-suite bedroom once, and it was great, but I don't miss it.

Seashor · 22/01/2025 14:47

I bloody love my en-suite, it’s my bit of pure luxury. Very welcome in the middle of the night. I wouldn’t buy a house without one and I’d most definitely buy a house with en-suites in every room. In real life I don’t know anyone that wouldn’t.

mitogoshigg · 22/01/2025 14:45

Master bedroom needs an en-suite shower room, it was a red line for me, as you get older they become more necessary Grin. Otherwise bedrooms on the same floor can share a bathroom but if you are marketing a downstairs bedroom it will need an en-suite unless you have a shower downstairs in the cloakroom

TheGoogleMum · 22/01/2025 14:41

I'd say 1 en suite to the master + a family bathroom and an office would be much more preferable for me than multiple en suites

Birch101 · 22/01/2025 14:39

We renovated our house and looked round new builds and had to laugh that the ensuite sacrificed the storage space in the main bedroom which wouldn't have enough space for 2 adults, and yet the next bedroom had loads.

We decided to have a nice size master with decent storage, a decent dbl (as in you can walk around the bed) and a largish single with an upstairs family bathroom, we also put in a shower wet room downstairs and made space for a utility room.

Depending on how the house is being pitched I would say min. is a main bathroom with a toilet downstairs, if the ensuite is shoe horned into the master bedroom I wouldn't want it. I'd prefer bedrooms of a decent size.

Rewis · 22/01/2025 14:35

PorridgeOatsSuck · 22/01/2025 11:17

I'm glad you said this. If I were designing for me this is exactly what I'd do. However to maximise return I imagine a 4 bed would retail at a high price point than a 3 bed + study

I just want decent storage spaces. We've been to every new development in the area, and they all have gazillion bathrooms but no storage space. Once I pointed out to the agent that there really isn't anywhere to put wellies and jackets etc. Apparently, you can fit a few hooks next to stairs, and rest can go in the garage. Great. We can all just get dressed there every morning. Box room with an ensuite but no space for a closet. One had an amazing mudroom hall area. I was ready to buy it just for that without cheking any of the other rooms. My flat has better storage space than these 4-5 bed houses! End of rant.

bridgetreilly · 22/01/2025 14:30

@FateReset if every bedroom has an en-suite, why on earth do you want another family bathroom downstairs?! Who for??

DazzlingCuckoos · 22/01/2025 14:18

PorridgeOatsSuck · 22/01/2025 11:17

I'm glad you said this. If I were designing for me this is exactly what I'd do. However to maximise return I imagine a 4 bed would retail at a high price point than a 3 bed + study

Have a look at the Redrow Stratford houses - same size, different floorplans:

Their Woburn site has both properties available. The 4 bed is from £580k and the 3 bed version is £585k!

They certainly think there's no price difference between them!

Of course, a house is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it!

Pelot · 22/01/2025 13:42

The configuration and where it sits on the floor plan can make or break and en-suite. A office in a bedroom is an absolutely not. Most people who have 4+ toilets aren't cleaning them themselves so that point doesn't really hold. Having a dressing room lead to an en-suite even if the dressing room is more of a closet against one wall creates enough separation.

FateReset · 22/01/2025 13:15

I like ensuites, why do you want to share a bathroom with anyone other than your spouse?

Even young children benefit from having a bathroom each, they have their own products, potty training seat and steps, own towels, toothbrush etc. You teach them how to keep their own bathroom clean, hang up towel, wipe sink. As they get older they clean their own loo and shower, as teens they have privacy eg girls starting peroids have a private bin to put used pads/tampons in. Boys can set up their shaving stuff etc.. and nobody fights over who used/moved their things or made a puddle on floor or forgot to replenish loo roll.

And nobody has to queue or use a smelly one. Saves so many arguments between children as well as teaching them to look after own space. They can go to loo in night without creeping down a dark landing trying not to disturb others. More hygenic as bugs like norovirus easier to contain. Skin infections or fungus/cold sore virus/bacteria don't spread between towels being shared or touching. I hate bathtowels all being squashed together, or having to take child seats on and off toilets, it's outdated and primitive! And I can't imagine guests sharing the family bathroom, awkward and grotty for everyone. The days of queuing for shower in my dressing gown are long gone.

Currently we have a dressing room between our master bedroom and bathroom, giving privacy and space. Windows and extractor fans in all ensuites. Guest ensuite needs updating but is functional, with space for them to leave their stuff on shelf and in drawers. I keep it set up with a basket of spare toiletries and sets of towels. Currently both children share a large bathroom, but we plan to convert garage soon, as ages and gender mean they have different needs, products, want to use it at same time, use the wrong age toothpaste etc.

If you have a huge family bathroom with 2 sinks, multiple shelves, space for everyone to have a basket of stuff maybe it's easier.

My ideal house would be an ensuite per bedroom, plus a large family bathroom downstairs with a double shower, large spa type bath and storage space for all re-fills, cleaning caddy.

I find it easier to keep several bathrooms clean as you set aside an hour then go from one to another with steam mop, steam hose attachment, bleach, soap refills etc for deep cleaning. And a daily wipe down to reset and tidy, change towels and mats, remind older children/teens of chores. The same as going from bedroom to bedroom changing sheets, dusting, organising, delegating jobs.

An extra downstairs loo or spa bathroom means couples have the option of privacy too, or someone can have a long soak in the bath. Nowadays I think baths are less fashionable, one per house is enough as people don't have time for regular baths. It's quicker and uses less water to shower before work/school. And easier to clean, less damp. We only have one bath in our house, and 3 shower rooms.

I agree with your architect!

Home office is awkward within a bedroom and home working not as common now.
We have a small office/study downstairs, which doubles as a gaming room and man cave. I wouldn't want anyone gaming or playing VR upstairs when children are asleep or I'm trying to relax in bed.

You could add a small office to the lounge or dining room. If one bedroom is downstairs then it's ideal to have guest bedroom and ensuite downstairs, so it's closer to front door and guests don't need to go upstairs, giving everyone extra privacy.

I know many families who have converted garage into a guest ensuite, that doubles as a playroom or office or gym or gaming room between guests. Keep it multipurpose.

Lots of families have adult children living at home, sometimes with partners staying over or moving in.

Our old house had a big ensuite in nursery, which was great when firstborn was a baby as I had a big room to keep changing table, nappies, nappy bin, all the stuff that comes with a baby.

People can always convert an ensuite into an office or storage room or wardrobe, but it's much harder trying to add plumbing.

mondaytosunday · 22/01/2025 12:34

I used to flip properties. But I'd go with what the convention is in the area. En suites for every bedroom is very uncommon here. I think many above a certain price range expect an en suite to the master bedroom, a family bathroom and downstairs loo.
And if space is tight then definitely don't do it - space is prized above a secondary en suite. Make sure storage/closets are large though.

GasPanic · 22/01/2025 12:20

I think they are great and save you stumbling round a house in the middle of the night, especially when you are older.

A lot of people moan about how can you possibly have a toilet next to a bedroom. Probably because they are pissed off that they don't have one.

Here's the good news. You can use them how you want to. And how many people do you know that wake up and do sleep shattering bowel movements in the middle of the night.

Still, I think one or two in a house to take the pressure off the main bathroom if you have a family or guests is probably enough and one for every bedroom a bit extreme unless you have pots of money and access to a cleaning team.

xILikeJamx · 22/01/2025 12:13

1 en suite for the master bedroom, 1 for the guest bedroom so guests staying can be somewhat self-sufficient and not running through the house in a towel etc.

Any more than that is a complete waste of space in a 'normal' house

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