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To ask what your neurotypical view is… What is normal?!

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2024namechanger · 21/01/2025 15:54

My children are currently being assessed and whilst we don’t have a diagnosis, my dd has a lot of medical involvement and we have been told to prepare for ASD diagnosis (absolutely welcome this for her). She is mid teens and I had no idea when she was a child. After going through the child developmental assessments I realise that this is large part due to:

Me really struggling with social development as a child, blaming my mother, and ensuring that I taught my daughter how to behave (read:mask)
Me assuming I am totally normal and telling my daughter x y z was normal - I’m like that too!
Me having absolutely no clue as to what life is like for the NT.

I have no diagnoses. I am certain I have ADHD and will probably get assessed as actually I think it’s making me unwell - I can’t switch my brain off. I have ND traits and would be surprised if this added up to an ASD diagnosis. But I am also really struggling to work this out as I am not sure what normal is. If I am autistic it doesn’t have a big impact on me, and I have learnt multiple coping mechanisms, and avoidance! but would bring comfort.

So, if you are NT, how do you view the world?

[I hate it when people ask and don’t share their stuff. There was a lot in my childhood - I was very weird but I also had trauma at a young age and was lied to about family issues so whilst most things didn’t make any sense, there was a reason for that. I am big on self reflecting and have tried to change and adapt hugely as the years go on. I’m in my 40s now and have lots of kind and lovely friends.

SO Things I struggle with (eliminating ADHD stuff)
Going somewhere new/entering a room/bar/restaurant on my own. Making a phone call (I have to plan it, it’s stressful. If unexpected I can’t do it. I can answer a call much better - when it’s being led by me it’s harder). I can make calls as part of my job with little issue. Understanding social niceties/manners/how to begin convos, lots around this. I jump in the middle and forget to say hi. I try and be super polite and am referred to as blunt. Have friends who love me but am ‘marmite.’ Have a low tolerance for liars. Have rigidity but have learnt to understand that rules aren’t everything, have become a leader at work where you have to sometimes act outside of the rules. This took me years to learn, but I did it. Understanding text messages. I spend a lot of time ensuring I answer every element as I have got in trouble for being self involved and not responding to a key issue. Moods. I can really lose my temper. I try not to, but it actually makes me feel quite unwell as I get so angry. Often fantasise about living alone as it would better than the highs and lows I have. Understanding about other people. I tend to move people out of the way. I honestly would never do this thinkingly, and would be horrified if someone did it to me, but I have to admit I do this all the time. If I need to get across the kitchen I’ll just move someone. It makes sense in the moment. In retrospect that seems insane as I KNOW I should just say excuse me. But I don’t. I think I am getting worse around this.

However flipside I am very confident and can present to a room of strangers. I ran a children’s choir quite happily, singing in front of little kids. Hated the thought of it the night before, in the morning - huge stress. Loved it when I was actually doing it. Performing was horrifying but I just looked at them. Couldn’t fathom how they had the guts to face the audience! Can’t imagine I showed this. At work I am applauded as an excellent communicator. I am articulate. I can immediately pick apart a problem, find the fault and correct. I am often praised for ‘getting it’ and great understanding when working with other agencies. I loathe confrontation in my personal life but have no issue at work and will call someone out if needs be. I have to sit on emails for 24 hours to ensure I’m appropriate however, and have been advised to keep my mouth shut in the moment. Which I can do!!!

I thought my struggles were everyone’s but I read something recently which made me question this. I know at work that no one ever wants to call for the takeaway so I assume they don’t want to for the same reason? But maybe it’s different? What’s it like for you???

PS I’m not asking for thoughts on my ND or otherwise - you can’t diagnose over the internet and I have left everything out that I ‘know’ is a trait. I’m more interested in knowing if everyone feels like me. I felt very different to others as a kid but a lot more normal nowadays. So just curious I guess.

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HeadNorth · 21/01/2025 16:16

PlaygroupWoe · 21/01/2025 16:13

It would help her make sense of her brain and how it works. There is no need to be rude.

OP I am in a similar place to you, so can't really help, but will be watching replies!

I've spent 40 years thinking I'm broken in some way because everything is so damm hard. I am hoping that diagnosis will help me understand.

Or maybe life just is damn hard, a lot of the time? Why would you think it is supposed to be easy?

PlaygroupWoe · 21/01/2025 16:13

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It would help her make sense of her brain and how it works. There is no need to be rude.

OP I am in a similar place to you, so can't really help, but will be watching replies!

I've spent 40 years thinking I'm broken in some way because everything is so damm hard. I am hoping that diagnosis will help me understand.

TabloidFootprints · 21/01/2025 16:13

I'm NT and I certainly wouldn't say I understand social situations like a second skin or that I am energised and stimulated by social interaction,I enjoy it but need time alone too

Mareleine · 21/01/2025 16:12

I think it's normal to not be a social maven. I think idealising this flawed concept of "being able to navigate every social situation effortlessly" is why we've got a massive problem. Everyone's a bit of an outsider most of the time. It's normal to feel a bit anxious or stressed in unfamiliar situations. It's normal to be uncomfortable sometimes. Nothing anyone can say will ever divest me of this opinion. I have ADHD and I don't think having negative feelings sometimes is part of my ND, I think it's par for the course of being human.

Mustreadabook · 21/01/2025 16:12

How would we know if we were neurotypical though? They don’t test for that.
I hate to go somewhere where I have to talk to people alone, networking events terrify me, I hate to talk to an audience. I hate the phone. Recently I tried to contact someone for a week via email which was sorted out in 10 minutes when I finally picked up the phone. But isn’t that all part of being an introvert?

JustTalkToThem · 21/01/2025 16:12

ThisGoldTraybake · 21/01/2025 16:04

Anxiety aside though if you are neurotypical then I have to assume you at least understand social communication and all its facets like a second skin. For autistic people this is often one of the main signifiers for a difference in neurological function.

NT folks don't just understand everything. Social communication is complex and very few people can navigate and parse all elements of social situations. We also don't all get energized or stimulated (in a good way) by social interactions.

I don't want this to descend into shitting on ND folks, but you're simplifying human nature far too much. I know you'll now tell me that you're a PhD in Psychology or something similar, but you come off as if you don't understand what you're talking about.

Marianus · 21/01/2025 16:09

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I am NT.

Gowlett · 21/01/2025 16:09

I’ve never thought about any of this stuff so I assume that I must be NT? None of these questions enter my mind on a daily basis.

coxesorangepippin · 21/01/2025 16:08

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Marianus · 21/01/2025 16:06

ThisGoldTraybake · 21/01/2025 16:04

Anxiety aside though if you are neurotypical then I have to assume you at least understand social communication and all its facets like a second skin. For autistic people this is often one of the main signifiers for a difference in neurological function.

No I really don’t. I struggle a lot. It’s why I avoid situations like that like the plague.

ThisGoldTraybake · 21/01/2025 16:04

Marianus · 21/01/2025 16:01

This isn’t really true. I am not ND but I have anxiety so none of the things you mentioned come easy to me.

Anxiety aside though if you are neurotypical then I have to assume you at least understand social communication and all its facets like a second skin. For autistic people this is often one of the main signifiers for a difference in neurological function.

Marianus · 21/01/2025 16:01

ThisGoldTraybake · 21/01/2025 15:58

I’m pretty sure I’m ND (more high functioning autistic than anything else) and all I can imagine is that for NT people they just have that social brain, as in they are energised and stimulated from social interaction and seek it out. They are probably also just naturally predisposed to be social in general and don’t think twice about what they’re going to say or how they’re going to say it.

This isn’t really true. I am not ND but I have anxiety so none of the things you mentioned come easy to me.

Seeuontheboard · 21/01/2025 15:59

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ThisGoldTraybake · 21/01/2025 15:58

I’m pretty sure I’m ND (more high functioning autistic than anything else) and all I can imagine is that for NT people they just have that social brain, as in they are energised and stimulated from social interaction and seek it out. They are probably also just naturally predisposed to be social in general and don’t think twice about what they’re going to say or how they’re going to say it.