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To continue calling DD by the name I gave her

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bannsise · 21/01/2025 08:04

My DD is 22, her first name is Isabella, I chose the name as I love it and think it’s very pretty. Since she was little I’d always call her Isabella or Bella, her dad who I wasn’t with called her “Isa” (ee-sa).
As a teen she insisted I didn’t call her Bella, I happily just used Isabella.
Now she is insisting I call her Isa, she says she doesn’t like Isabella, no one apart from me has called her it in 10+ years. She also complains I say it wrong anyway (her dad is European and pronounces it ee-sa-bell-a, I say is-a-bell-a). I replied that I can’t say her name wrong as I picked it!!

AIBU to say I will continue to call her Isabella (with the English pronunciation) and not by Isa as that isn’t the name I chose for her and I don’t like it.

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YouZirName · 21/01/2025 09:09

Of course you're being unreasonable, and to be honest you sound quite bitter and awful about it. Your daughter is an adult, and if you make this your hill to die on I suspect you'll end up with her very low contact, if that.

user2848502016 · 21/01/2025 09:08

She's an adult, I think you should call her Isa if that's what she wants.
The pronunciation of Isabella is just about accents though, you can't say it like her dad does or it would sound weird like you're trying to put on an accent

takealettermsjones · 21/01/2025 09:08

ChicLilacSeal · 21/01/2025 09:04

I wrote: She claims it would be embarrassing to be British when her own mother is British? Eee-sa sounds like she's in her twat era.

I specifically referred to her insulting her mother's nationality. Nothing to do with her name. Reading comprehension is a valuable skill!

Edited

You said "Eee-sa sounds like she's in her twat era," thus clearly mocking her choice of name.

Thanks for the tip on reading comprehension; allow me to reciprocate: being sanctimonious on the internet makes one sound like an insufferable twat.

HipToTheHopDontStop · 21/01/2025 09:07

ChicLilacSeal · 21/01/2025 09:04

I wrote: She claims it would be embarrassing to be British when her own mother is British? Eee-sa sounds like she's in her twat era.

I specifically referred to her insulting her mother's nationality. Nothing to do with her name. Reading comprehension is a valuable skill!

Edited

The mother who left her at 16 and makes a huge fuss about calling her daughter her own name....I can see why the DD is embarrassed.

It is a valuable skill...nuance matters.

Didimum · 21/01/2025 09:07

bannsise · 21/01/2025 08:48

Italy. I don’t feel like I should put on a fake accent when saying my own child’s name that seems very odd!

??? It’s not a fake accent, it’s a legitimate pronunciation of a name, just not your pronunciation.

She’s an adult, the name belongs to her, not to you. Don’t die on this hill.

Member984815 · 21/01/2025 09:06

Call her the name she wants

ChicLilacSeal · 21/01/2025 09:04

takealettermsjones · 21/01/2025 08:55

Twat era? What are you on about? The woman was brought up in Italy, where the correct pronunciation is Ee-sa; her dad has always called her Ee-sa; everyone else she knows calls her Ee-sa. This isn't a new "era" for her, nor is it being a twat.

I wrote: She claims it would be embarrassing to be British when her own mother is British? Eee-sa sounds like she's in her twat era.

I specifically referred to her insulting her mother's nationality. Nothing to do with her name. Reading comprehension is a valuable skill!

NewNameFor2025 · 21/01/2025 09:04

Do you want her to think of you the way some people are talking about their mothers on here, on this thread?

You have a choice whether to be ‘that’ mother, or her mother. They are very different things.

How would you like it if she started calling you Dad? Or Enid? Just respect her wishes and be grateful she hasn’t changed it to Nigel.

Sassybooklover · 21/01/2025 09:03

I think the most important question is, how much do you want this situation to effect your relationship with your daughter? It's a name. Yes, you chose her name, and you think it's pretty BUT now as an adult she clearly doesn't feel that way. The more you dig your heels in, and refuse to respect her wishes, you will start having a fractured relationship with her. It may be that she prefers the pronunciation that her Dad uses, it probably sounds a bit more exotic. Is it the fact she prefers her Dad's pronunciation to yours, that's the real issue here? I don't know, only you know the answer to that question. Isabella can be shorted in a variety of ways - Isa, Izzy, Bell, Bella. Most people use the shortened version of my name, which actually can be confusing as it's used for several girls names starting with the same three letters! My Aunt used to add a Y to the shortened version, which I absolutely hated!!! If I introduce myself, I always use my full name, so there's no confusion over what my actual full name is. For your daughter's sake, you need to let this go.

PigInAHouse · 21/01/2025 09:02

NameChangedOfc · 21/01/2025 09:01

Well, having read your replies OP, clearly this isn't about the name, is it?

Exactly this.

HipToTheHopDontStop · 21/01/2025 09:02

bannsise · 21/01/2025 08:43

She doesn’t live in the uk, the pronunciations she uses are normal in the country she is in.

This only makes it worse, you know. You gave her a name that has a totally different sound in her own accent/language and insisted on saying it a way that is foreign to her and everyone around her.

Then you left her at 16, moved abroad, and are still pissing about with the name.

NameChangedOfc · 21/01/2025 09:01

Well, having read your replies OP, clearly this isn't about the name, is it?

Namerequired · 21/01/2025 09:01

I’m assuming she’s Italian and Isa pronounced that way would be common. I actually think it’s pretty. You should call her what she wishes if it’s important to her. That said I have names more all my children that really only I call them. And of course their full name when I’m reprimanding 😜 Mothers privilege.

tilypu · 21/01/2025 09:01

bannsise · 21/01/2025 08:48

Italy. I don’t feel like I should put on a fake accent when saying my own child’s name that seems very odd!

It's entirely possible to pronounce 'eesa' without using an Italian accent.

Think of the Italian words that we commonly use in English - panini, pepperoni, broccoli etc etc

We don't say them in an Italian accent.

Yabu.

pointythings · 21/01/2025 09:00

I really think you need to step off this hill. Why wouldn't you call your adult child by their preferred name? It feels petty and self centred 'well, I named her so I get to do what I want '. And all for such a minor change. My three have all changed the names they go by, two of them drastically. It's fine because I don't feel.I own them.

godmum56 · 21/01/2025 08:59

Just keep it up OP and you will solve your own problem. She will break off contact with you and you won't need to call her anything.

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 21/01/2025 08:58

You gave your DD her name, it's her choice what to call herself.

Call her ee-sa. Her feelings on this take precedent. Maintaing a relationship with your adult DC is in the balance.

We have family names. My sibling did not like it. From when they went into the world as an adult, they have asked people to call them something related to their proper name. They get to choose their own name and identity.

SheridansPortSalut · 21/01/2025 08:57

I think that if you had a close relationship she would find your 'mispronounciation' endearing. You could have laughed it off by saying 'sorry, that's just my accent'. Instead of that you are digging your heels in saying that you are right and everyone else is wrong - the English accent is correct and the Italian accent is wrong. There's nothing endearing about that.

PigInAHouse · 21/01/2025 08:57

Maray1967 · 21/01/2025 08:55

Well that’s an interesting one. My DS works with a lady called Dorothea. Everyone calls her Dorothee-a. But where she is from, her name would be pronounced -Dorotaya.

I presume she’s never asked her co-workers to use her original pronunciation as every client who met her would have to be told what it was etc.

Well that’s the point isn’t it, she’s never asked anyone to use the other pronunciation. The OP’s daughter has. I’m sure if Dorothea asked people to use her preferred pronunciation, they’d make an effort to do so.

Over40Overdating · 21/01/2025 08:56

She claims it would be embarrassing to be British when her own mother is British? Eee-sa sounds like she's in her twat era.

Is this the kind of reaction you wanted @bannsise ? To have people support you by insulting you daughter who was born and raised in a country where the pronunciation of her name is standard, because you can’t bear to acknowledge she’s a grown woman who identifies with the culture she was raised with?

There are certainly twats on this thread and it’s not your daughter.

ChicLilacSeal · 21/01/2025 08:56

Maray1967 · 21/01/2025 08:48

I think this is quite an important point - so I’m changing my earlier view! If that’s what she grew up with, then I can see her point.

But I’m sorry that she’s so hostile to one part of her heritage - yes, we all know the UK has problems, but she does seem to be being almost deliberately provocative to you, OP.

I also take back what I said about ee-sa sounding odd and pretentious. I didn't realise she was Italian and had always lived in Italy. Bit of a drip-feed there!

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 08:55

It's not a fake accent though is it?

You named her an Italian name when she was born in Italy. She lived in Italy. Her name is Isabella and she's asking you to just put some effort into pronouncing it properly.

PigInAHouse · 21/01/2025 08:55

Well you’ve got two choices. Continue calling her Isabella or Bella and piss her off, or call her Isa and don’t piss her off. Up to you.

stanleypops66 · 21/01/2025 08:55

Why do you have to put on an accent. It's easy to say Ee-sa in a 'normal' voice. This is how her name is shorted in the country she's grown up in and lives. Pick your battles.

Maray1967 · 21/01/2025 08:55

PigInAHouse · 21/01/2025 08:51

So if you met an Italian woman with that name you’d use your own pronunciation of it?

Well that’s an interesting one. My DS works with a lady called Dorothea. Everyone calls her Dorothee-a. But where she is from, her name would be pronounced -Dorotaya.

I presume she’s never asked her co-workers to use her original pronunciation as every client who met her would have to be told what it was etc.

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