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The brainlessness of an English Tutor. Fuming

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crazymomma93 · 20/01/2025 19:22

Long time lurker, please bear with me.
My DD12 has been having some issues with her reading book. It has been making her feel uncomfortable, from the Genre and style of writing. So I have looked into it, got a jist of the book, she has pointed out some bits that made her uneasy and I looked up the age rating which was 14+. Now typically if you knew me, you would know I am not "that Mom" but I emailed her Form Tutor to ask if there was an alternative. Tutor emailed back after talking to English dept and DD dosn't need to read the book any longer, she can bring in her own. No problem. My DD has just told me she spoke with her own English Tutor, the day before I sent the email to tell her Form Tutor. After listening to DD, English Tutor responds "it's just words"
ITS JUST WORDS? Sorry is that not pretty much the Tutors whole career, teaching English?
I need calming because I am close to emailing said teacher calling her a c**t, because, you know "it's just words". See how her feelings are when she reads something that makes her uncomfortable.
My DD turned to her to ask because the book was making her uneasy and that is the response. What about children who get verbally bullied? Where is this Womans morals. AIBU?

OP posts:
TunipTheVegimal24 · 20/01/2025 20:17

Gwenhwyfar · 20/01/2025 20:14

"DD felt similarly about To Kill A Mockingbird"

What? To Kill a Mockingbird is an anti-racist novel!

Presumably though, she found reading about the horrible, racist things upsetting to imagine. She wouldn't necessarily have deemed the concept ignoble.

SemperIdem · 20/01/2025 20:17

HeffalumpsAndWoozlesAreHoneyRobbingTwats · 20/01/2025 20:08

About a book? You’re scrubbing and fretting because someone described the content of a book? What the heck was it?

It was a description of how a paedophile might teach a very young child to perform a specific sexual act.

LegoTherapy · 20/01/2025 20:17

School have some reading books that are quite surprising to me but I like that they dissect them and discuss the hard hitting themes. I don't know the book you refer to OP but I'm intrigued to read it.
DDs have done Of Mice and Men, Lord of the Flies, An Inspector Calls amongst others. Dd2 is about to sit her mocks and we have been discussing An inspector Calls tonight. The themes are very adult compared to what I did in school but I admire the critical thinking that they are being encouraged to do and to explore deep societal issues.

Gwenhwyfar · 20/01/2025 20:16

viques · 20/01/2025 19:55

Well nobody, but I would prefer that when my child is taught history they are not presented with a fictional and inaccurate representation of something so terrible as death camps and told it is history.

I agree with you, but we were shown documentaries with footage of the camp being liberated. This had to be done at age 13 because History became optional after that. A friend of mine got nightmares and her parents complained to the school. I think that was stupid. It's supposed to give us nightmares so that it doesn't happen again.

mealienpleasehelp · 20/01/2025 20:16

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 20/01/2025 19:47

As an English teacher, I can guarantee that you're being discussed in the staff room as "that mum".

And they are just words, I don't understand how you've taken such offence to this statement of fact.

Chill out mate, it's not that deep.

Oh dear

WhiteWriting · 20/01/2025 20:16

You weren't there. Children are often not great expert witnesses. Class teachers aren't in control of choosing texts - that's an HOD decision. You sound deranged. Your child is heading for a similar fate if you closet her from everything she finds a bit difficult. This is why I am leaving teaching.

GloriousTuga · 20/01/2025 20:15

I think part of growing up is learning to work through scenarios where you may feel uncomfortable. That’s life and realising you managed it is how resilience is built. Not by removing all obstacles or uncomfortable experiences. A book seems the ultimate safe situation to be uncomfortable about and move past.

No wonder young people are growing up more anxious and less resilient if they never have to deal with difficult feelings.

Chasingthefrog · 20/01/2025 20:14

heyhopotato · 20/01/2025 20:02

I wrote a reply with an example from a book, but it got deleted, so apparently it was too bad to even say on the internet in a forum of adults, let alone in a book where children might read it.

So the short version is, yes books have age ratings.

Which book did you quote from? I'm horrified by some of the content in the books aimed at teenagers and stocked in school libraries.

Gwenhwyfar · 20/01/2025 20:14

"DD felt similarly about To Kill A Mockingbird"

What? To Kill a Mockingbird is an anti-racist novel!

WoolySnail · 20/01/2025 20:14

HeffalumpsAndWoozlesAreHoneyRobbingTwats · 20/01/2025 20:08

About a book? You’re scrubbing and fretting because someone described the content of a book? What the heck was it?

Trust me, you don't want to know

Twaddlepip · 20/01/2025 20:13

I need calming because I am close to emailing said teacher calling her a ct, because, you know "it's just words". See how her feelings are when she reads something that makes her uncomfortable.

Fucking hell, easy tiger 😂 this is a bit of an overreaction.

PixieMcGraw · 20/01/2025 20:13

I'm getting flashbacks of getting in trouble in the 80s for passing my mum's copy of Hollywood Wives around the class.

Negangirlxx · 20/01/2025 20:12

crazymomma93 · 20/01/2025 20:10

Sorry busy household, I will read and catch up later when the children are in bed. The book is Eve of Man, based loosley on Handmaids tail. The first born girl in 50 years, quite seductive in text.
I am very much a get on with it type of Mom, "Crazy" my username in the sense of I will take them camping in December.
Also I would never dream of calling a teacher that, It ment it as an expression of "it's just words".

As in the Tom Fletcher and Giovanna Fletcher book?

Gwenhwyfar · 20/01/2025 20:12

InJadeHedgehog · 20/01/2025 19:49

I had to read a book called Brother in the Land for my GCSEs it is about the aftermath of a nuclear war.
It shit the absolute life out of me. The only way I got through that was remembering it was just words. That the characters weren’t real.

Edited

We also had one about the aftermath of a nuclear war. Even had a rape in it. I think it might have been Farenheit 451 or something.

TENSsion · 20/01/2025 20:12

heyhopotato · 20/01/2025 20:02

I wrote a reply with an example from a book, but it got deleted, so apparently it was too bad to even say on the internet in a forum of adults, let alone in a book where children might read it.

So the short version is, yes books have age ratings.

Can you please repeat the name of the book without the excerpt, please?

I’m intrigued

C152 · 20/01/2025 20:12

It could be a lazy response, or it could be a kindness, as @Askingforadvice78 suggested. The form tutor has already suggested a workable solution, so I wouldn't spend any more time thinking or worrying about it.

HeffalumpsAndWoozlesAreHoneyRobbingTwats · 20/01/2025 20:12

crazymomma93 · 20/01/2025 20:10

Sorry busy household, I will read and catch up later when the children are in bed. The book is Eve of Man, based loosley on Handmaids tail. The first born girl in 50 years, quite seductive in text.
I am very much a get on with it type of Mom, "Crazy" my username in the sense of I will take them camping in December.
Also I would never dream of calling a teacher that, It ment it as an expression of "it's just words".

For fuck sake

crazymomma93 · 20/01/2025 20:10

Sorry busy household, I will read and catch up later when the children are in bed. The book is Eve of Man, based loosley on Handmaids tail. The first born girl in 50 years, quite seductive in text.
I am very much a get on with it type of Mom, "Crazy" my username in the sense of I will take them camping in December.
Also I would never dream of calling a teacher that, It ment it as an expression of "it's just words".

OP posts:
PheasantPluckers · 20/01/2025 20:09

mealienpleasehelp · 20/01/2025 19:41

Also OP, I get your point about calling her a cunt.

People ranting about you being deranged and overreacting are being a bit thick imho.

Haha glad someone else got the point.

The point being, if they're 'just words', then the teacher won't be offended at someone using foul language at them, because after all 'cunt' is just a word.

idontthinksomate · 20/01/2025 20:09

@madamweb I really wana know what it was now

HeffalumpsAndWoozlesAreHoneyRobbingTwats · 20/01/2025 20:08

madamweb · 20/01/2025 20:04

I don't know why you are all shocked it was deleted. There was no need for that level of detail and I still feel like I need to rinse my brain in soap half an hour after reading it. Just totally unnecessary thing to drop it a thread. You could have easily made your point without being so grimly graphic

About a book? You’re scrubbing and fretting because someone described the content of a book? What the heck was it?

Gwenhwyfar · 20/01/2025 20:07

AlwaysLookOnTheSnarkSide · 20/01/2025 19:31

Didn’t Realise any books in this country had an age limit

They don't, they're just recommendations. I did have a teacher tell me I couldn't take a certain book when I was around 12 though. It didn't change anything because I could still get them independently elsewhere.

TonTonMacoute · 20/01/2025 20:07

If it's a book that both school and tutor are aware of, have possibly set for study in the first place, it cannot possibly be that bad.

The 'it's only words' comment from the tutor is a bit unprofessional, but the OPs proposed reaction is completely OTT and unpleasantly aggressive.

TunipTheVegimal24 · 20/01/2025 20:06

I don't think you're helping your daughter by encouraging her to not read the book. We don't have to avoid topics which make us uncomfortable. Research shows that doing so, usually causes more harm than good. That is, people become increasingly upset about the issues they are avoiding, rather than less.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/parenting-translator/202307/do-trigger-warnings-do-more-harm-than-good%3famp

I heard a podcast that suggested some people who avoid certain topics, for example, can start to incorporate that dislike into part of their personality, or a defining characteristics of themselves.

Do Trigger Warnings Do More Harm Than Good?

Surely, by receiving a warning, you’d be better prepared to handle negative content. You'd know what to expect and feel less anxious. Right? Probably not.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/parenting-translator/202307/do-trigger-warnings-do-more-harm-than-good%3famp

Nightmarewithdelirium · 20/01/2025 20:06

You are massively massively overreacting. Your daughter will grow up as precious as you if you carry on like this.
You asked if she could read a different book and were told she could.
You cannot expect absolutely no pushback about this as ALL the other kids in the class are managing ti read that book. Clearly it's on the curriculum. If it were genuinely distressing your daughter it's valid to ask if she can read something else.. but you can't seriously think that's normal at the age of 12? That there wouldn't be any attempt to convince her to try and persevere with it?? What the teacher said was really mild. It IS just words. Words can sometimes upset you however they are just words and we can choose how we respond. Education may make you uncomfortable at points and if possible that needs to be worked through.. she's going to be learning about things like, slavery, the holocaust, how we die, the vastness of space, climate change, exploitation etc etc Of course there will be a bit of mild pressure to try and work through things. How will she learn like her peers if she just gets to not take part the minute she feels uncomfortable?