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The brainlessness of an English Tutor. Fuming

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crazymomma93 · 20/01/2025 19:22

Long time lurker, please bear with me.
My DD12 has been having some issues with her reading book. It has been making her feel uncomfortable, from the Genre and style of writing. So I have looked into it, got a jist of the book, she has pointed out some bits that made her uneasy and I looked up the age rating which was 14+. Now typically if you knew me, you would know I am not "that Mom" but I emailed her Form Tutor to ask if there was an alternative. Tutor emailed back after talking to English dept and DD dosn't need to read the book any longer, she can bring in her own. No problem. My DD has just told me she spoke with her own English Tutor, the day before I sent the email to tell her Form Tutor. After listening to DD, English Tutor responds "it's just words"
ITS JUST WORDS? Sorry is that not pretty much the Tutors whole career, teaching English?
I need calming because I am close to emailing said teacher calling her a c**t, because, you know "it's just words". See how her feelings are when she reads something that makes her uncomfortable.
My DD turned to her to ask because the book was making her uneasy and that is the response. What about children who get verbally bullied? Where is this Womans morals. AIBU?

OP posts:
Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 20/01/2025 23:37

Ah to be 12 and discovering Jilly Cooper for the first time again.

also remember when Judy Blume’s Forever was banned from the school library.

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 20/01/2025 23:33

Mrsknowitall · 20/01/2025 23:28

well I don’t think you’d find fifty shades of grey or a Steven king novel next to the little mermaid in a library 🤦‍♀️

No, but there’s nothing stopping people going to different sections. You also wouldn’t find true crime next to a Mills & Boon.

WetBandits · 20/01/2025 23:32

I studied The Bloody Chamber at GCSE and survived it. I have a copy of it next to my bed currently 😂

Your DD sounds a bit sensitive and you sound as your username suggests.

thaegumathteth · 20/01/2025 23:31

You seemed quite normal and calm and then the last paragraph was like you'd had a personality transplant. Give your head a wobble it's not a big deal

mumedu · 20/01/2025 23:28

Batshit.

Mrsknowitall · 20/01/2025 23:28

LottieMary · 20/01/2025 19:35

Books don't have age ratings.

well I don’t think you’d find fifty shades of grey or a Steven king novel next to the little mermaid in a library 🤦‍♀️

oakleaffy · 20/01/2025 23:27

Lots of children who enjoy reading , take out and read books from the adult library.
Reading a book for a 14 yr old when one is 12 is hardly a stretch.

YABU.

mumedu · 20/01/2025 23:25

Wow! Are you okay?

YourAzureEagle · 20/01/2025 23:03

We read The Catcher in the Rye at 12, its recommended for 14+ and a GCSE text, but covers much adult content -- oh well, life goes on!

I'd be much more concerned about what your child is exposed to online rather than in the classroom.

When I was a teenage boy in the 80's the most excitement we got outside of reading books was looking up dirty words in the big dictionary in the library or spelling boobs on our calculators, a changed world.

Lunde · 20/01/2025 22:56

pinkstripeycat · 20/01/2025 22:31

My son read it for GCSE and also Animal Farm. I can’t bring myself to read them.

My whole class read Animal Farm in Primary School

wordsworthian · 20/01/2025 22:56

shuggles · 20/01/2025 22:48

I read Animal Farm. I have no idea why you would be upset by that book.

Apparently Boxer being taken off to the glue factory is tear-jerker. But yes, it would help if those so upset by a book would be more precise.

CharlotteByrde · 20/01/2025 22:55

@Phthia Teachers don't use 'that mum' as a threat. Who on earth would they be threatening? But they might well tell their colleagues to tread carefully around a mum that uses aggressive language, just in case.

wordsworthian · 20/01/2025 22:54

Phthia · 20/01/2025 22:50

I wish teachers would realise that calling a parent "that mum" or "that parent" is not the threat they think it is. Indeed, in some contexts - for example parents fighting for provision for their children's learning difficulties, or standing up against bullies - it can become a badge of honour.

First of all, it's not only teachers who say this. Secondly, in the case of the OP, badge of of honour hardly applies, not least because they offer partial information that has stunted debate, and for someone who apparently values language, is happy to want call a teacher a cunt on the basis of a conversation they weren't in on.

cardibach · 20/01/2025 22:52

Phthia · 20/01/2025 22:50

I wish teachers would realise that calling a parent "that mum" or "that parent" is not the threat they think it is. Indeed, in some contexts - for example parents fighting for provision for their children's learning difficulties, or standing up against bullies - it can become a badge of honour.

I’ve taught for 35 years and never heard the phrase ‘that mum’ or ‘that parent’ used by teachers. It’s a MN construct.

ThanksItHasPockets · 20/01/2025 22:50

This thread is fantastically batshit. The headcanon rewrite of the end of TKAM; the oblique references to half-remembered books which no-one bothers to name but multiple people feel obliged to guess; and best of all, the novel at the centre of it all being written by that bloke from McFly and his wife off the CBeebies Baby Club.

10/10, no notes.

Phthia · 20/01/2025 22:50

I wish teachers would realise that calling a parent "that mum" or "that parent" is not the threat they think it is. Indeed, in some contexts - for example parents fighting for provision for their children's learning difficulties, or standing up against bullies - it can become a badge of honour.

Another2Cats · 20/01/2025 22:48

TabithaWilliams · 20/01/2025 20:32

We read Stephen king and Richard Laymon at that age - James Herbert The rats was the most common free reading book in class. We also read Lace and Rivals at break 😂 can't see an issue with the book in question.

"James Herbert The rats..."

OMG, that has just brought back so many memories. I remember reading both that book and The Fog when I was about 14 or 15 in the late 1970s.

The other two books you mentioned weren't published until later. Do you mean Rivals by Jilly Cooper? That wasn't even published until 1988.

shuggles · 20/01/2025 22:48

pinkstripeycat · 20/01/2025 22:31

My son read it for GCSE and also Animal Farm. I can’t bring myself to read them.

I read Animal Farm. I have no idea why you would be upset by that book.

mikado1 · 20/01/2025 22:48

SnoopyPajamas · 20/01/2025 20:58

Why are people always so vague with threads like this? Why not name the book from the off, tell us what in particular made DD so uncomfortable, and include some quotes?

Whether or not something is suitable for children is such a subjective question. Unless you want the stock "if it made my child uncomfortable it should be removed immediately!" response, you have to provide more information. "Uncomfortable" can mean anything. It could be something they need to work through as part of gaining maturity or an understanding of the world. Or it could be something the child is genuinely too young to be exposed to. Without context it's impossible for us to know.

There is a big difference between a 12 and a 14 year old, in terms of maturity. That said, "recommended reading ages" are being increasingly dumbed down. I often see books I would have read comfortably at seven, being recommended as for 10 or 11 year olds. I think there is more of a tendency to coddle children these days, and put unnecessary limits on them. When you couple that with a younger generation that likes to coddle itself with trigger warnings and will often drop anything that challenges them . . . I worry we're not giving kids the space they need to grow and develop. Being challenged is a big part of that.

That said, there is a real issue of publishers gearing inappropriate content younger and younger in YA fiction, in particular. It comes about because more adults are reading the genre and they want to appeal to that audience. And have lost their way in doing so. It's more of an issue in romance and fantasy books aimed at teenagers though, as far as I know.

Thanks for this. I have a 13yo avid reader and I was going to move him on as he's at that difficult in between age. Can you give an idea of books or series that are inappropriate for younger readers.
That said, we passed around Forever (Judy blume) at 12, and hid it under our pillows!!

cardibach · 20/01/2025 22:46

As an English teacher I wonder whether the discussion was about the age rating. I can imagine saying something like 'films have absolute ratings and you aren't allowed to watch if the age is higher than yours, but books have recommendations, not ratings as it's only words not images, so our own experience and imagination can protect us a bit'. Or similar argument to that effect.

Tbry24 · 20/01/2025 22:45

Most of the books everyone’s mentioning I have read and loved. All the nuclear fall out and sci-fi ones, just excellent as they make you stop and think. As for burning the books in Fahrenheit 451 that’s what we all want to avoid as books are wonderous.

And as for history and the holocaust of course we need to read and see those images as teens to make us understand what happened and for it to never happen again. I visited the graveyards in France with my school as a teenager, I will never forget all those graves.

IMHO a lot of the banned books everyone should read, especially teens.

as for this one, eve of man, I have never heard of it. I’ve borrowed it as an ebook from the library now and going to read it. I can’t possibly think what could be wrong with it.

i am in my 50s now and without being able to escape to other worlds in books I’d never have got through my childhood.

JudgeJ · 20/01/2025 22:43

I am close to emailing said teacher calling her a ct,

Were I still teaching then my reply would be Takes one to know one.
Parents need to concentrate on their children's well-being instead of wasting teachers' time with petty emails. They should not have a teacher's email at all, if they have a complaint then go through the proper channels, the Head.

wordsworthian · 20/01/2025 22:42

Another2Cats · 20/01/2025 22:32

Perhaps "On the Beach" by Nevil Shute? I don't remember a rape but I was 14 when we had to read it (45 years ago) so the memory isn't quite there.

Was it "Z for Zachariah"? That's post-nuclear war and there's an attempted sexual assault in it.

AshCrapp · 20/01/2025 22:39

Is it on the curriculum, or is it a reading book set to your DD ? Wondering why the fuck the McFly guy would be in the curriculum...

What is it about the book that made her uncomfortable?

Another2Cats · 20/01/2025 22:32

Gwenhwyfar · 20/01/2025 20:12

We also had one about the aftermath of a nuclear war. Even had a rape in it. I think it might have been Farenheit 451 or something.

Perhaps "On the Beach" by Nevil Shute? I don't remember a rape but I was 14 when we had to read it (45 years ago) so the memory isn't quite there.

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