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any professional actors about? Do you think you can be taught

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PintersPint · 20/01/2025 14:07

how to act? I mean obviously you can be taught to a degree as otherwise drama schools wouldn't exist.

What I mean is 'if you have someone with no natural talent at all, can you teach a person like that to be a good actor'?

To get into a drama school in the first place, you need to audition. So I'm assuming that their starting crop have a degree of natural talent to start with.

Do you think it's possible to teach someone with no natural talent to act? and if you do think that, what kind of things would form the basis of the teaching?

Where would you recommend someone go/what kind of things to do/ to learn the basic building blocks? Private tutor (how do you find a good one?) or group classes (where?)

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KrisAkabusi · 20/01/2025 16:14

Because someone with no natural talent is interested in learning HOW to act and I was asking whether it would be possible to learn. Why does it matter?

It matters because it very much depends on the motivation of the person. It's going to be much easier to teach someone that wants to be an actor compared to someone with an overbearing parent that is trying to force them to be one. For example.

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 20/01/2025 16:14

PintersPint · 20/01/2025 16:11

GhastlyGoodTaste · Today 15:07

But what is the reason for your question??

Because someone with no natural talent is interested in learning HOW to act and I was asking whether it would be possible to learn. Why does it matter?

It's a straightforward question. It's a totally different discipline from saying 'can you learn to play the piano with no natural talent' because there are basics to learn - like here are the treble clef notes, they mean these keys, here are the bass clef notes, they mean these keys and so on. So someone with no natural talent , although they will never be a concert pianist, could be taught to play the piano to a good standard with lessons and practice and discipline.

Acting doesn't seem on the face of it to be amenable to the same degree of teaching if you have no natural affinity for it because it doesn't have such objectively 'teachable' building blocks like say learning a language (vocabulary, grammar).

@WineseCuisine is this hot shot tutor still working? he sounds ideal person to speak to!

Acting absolutely does have certain building blocks and techniques—vocal, physical, ways of approaching character development and interpretation of text. These can all be learned, for sure. They are useful skills which would build confidence and be fun to do, even if someone with no natural talent isn't going to be a "star", or a professional.

PintersPint · 20/01/2025 16:11

GhastlyGoodTaste · Today 15:07

But what is the reason for your question??

Because someone with no natural talent is interested in learning HOW to act and I was asking whether it would be possible to learn. Why does it matter?

It's a straightforward question. It's a totally different discipline from saying 'can you learn to play the piano with no natural talent' because there are basics to learn - like here are the treble clef notes, they mean these keys, here are the bass clef notes, they mean these keys and so on. So someone with no natural talent , although they will never be a concert pianist, could be taught to play the piano to a good standard with lessons and practice and discipline.

Acting doesn't seem on the face of it to be amenable to the same degree of teaching if you have no natural affinity for it because it doesn't have such objectively 'teachable' building blocks like say learning a language (vocabulary, grammar).

@WineseCuisine is this hot shot tutor still working? he sounds ideal person to speak to!

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lostinabook · 20/01/2025 16:03

The boring, deep answer is because acting is the art of pretending to be another the skills you need are the ability to build up a mask and slip it on. Some people's personality, character or brain just will not allow them to imagine another life in this way.

However, the basic skills of text comprehension, how to approach building a character, vocal techniques can be taught.

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 20/01/2025 16:03

I've done quite a bit of directing (I'm mainly a producer now), but in the course of my work I have for various reasons worked with people who are not actors, and had to teach them exactly what you've described: how to interpret a script / play and convey emotion.

What I would say is that, with guidance, anyone can be taught to act up to a point, but to be really good there needs to be an innate talent or charisma that cannot be taught, only nurtured and developed.

WineseCuisine · 20/01/2025 15:59

This is purely anecdotal.

Back in the dark ages, a friend of my parents worked at a fairly well-respected drama school. One of the hot shot tutors there (the kind of name that draws students - but also a bit of a fat-headed bellend by all accounts) once made a bet that he could teach anyone to act. So he offered a place to the person everyone agreed was not only the worst in that year’s auditions but actually, hopelessly, unredeemably untalented.

Not only did this student finish the course but they managed to have a relatively decent acting career in the end. No award-winning roles or big-screen fame or anything like that, but a stable enough stream of work for many years - which is a lot more than many fully trained, professional actors can say.

They did want it an awful lot though, put in a tremendous amount of work, and got a lot of one-to-one help from said hot shot tutor who had a point to prove.

whaddayawannado · 20/01/2025 15:26

Beginner group for adults with no natural talent = local Am Dram society. Most people who join those have no previous experience.

GhastlyGoodTaste · 20/01/2025 15:07

But what is the reason for your question??

PintersPint · 20/01/2025 15:02

What would be the end goal for the person above? To perform in a local Am Dram group? To be on TV? To be in films?

None of these things. It is a question about literally just learning how to act - the teaching of the skills - how to read scripts and display emotions in a convincing way and to a high standard. To become 'a good actor' technically. Obviously that would involve performing I suppose to repeat the skill but that's not my question.

My question is 'can someone with no natural talent (ie. certain not to succeed in a drama school audition) be taught how to act to a good standard and if so how?' What sort of things are they taught? Where would they go to get taught to a good standard - private tutors? how do you find out who is any good? where do you get beginner group classes for adults with no natural talent and absolute beginners.

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HPandthelastwish · 20/01/2025 14:15

Most children who go to Drama School Sylvia Young's etc will have already had years of Am Dram, dance and singing lessons from a young age, already done pantos etc.
Those that go on to Degree courses and / or RADA later will be similar.

It's fairly unusual to go from absolutely nothing but beginner drama lessons exist so it's possible.

Those that are successful on stage or screen will have other skills, having the stubbornness,/ willpower to learn scripts. The ability to take notes on their performance. The resilience to be rejected. The use of voice to convey thoughts and feelings, being able to use your voice as an instrument rather than ending up with laryngitis regularly.

In America it's harder to get the paperwork for the SAG etc as an adult which is why so many start out as very young child actors and learn as they go as their membership carries with them.

In the UK it's more common to go the structured School, College, Uni, RADA route and not to go professional until a bit older.

What would be the end goal for the person above? To perform in a local Am Dram group? To be on TV? To be in films?

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