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Someone spreading race hate. Report to employer?

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emma91july · 20/01/2025 13:58

Someone I know is spreading race hate (as well as Islamophobia - separate kind of hate, I understand) on social media. I have "reported" some of most recent posts on Facebook (before blocking the person). Facebook agreed that the posts breached their standards and have notified the person. I understand from others that this person continues to post hate-mongering stuff on Facebook.
They work in a very "customer-centric" in the heart of a very diverse community. Would you report this person anonomously to their employer? There is a whiteblowing procedure in place. Their employer is very hot on equality, diversity, respect for all etc.

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VulcanVause · 20/01/2025 22:42

if it’s really bad, report anonymously to employer. If they also think it’s very bad, they will deal with it.

UnderFadedSkies · 20/01/2025 22:25

Ghruch · 20/01/2025 22:10

Yeah but the alternative isn’t silence, it’s challenging the person directly. Racism is clearly bad but a culture of anonymous snitching is oppressive and awful in a different way.

Also, Wiesel was obviously referring to discriminatory action and violence. If you start punishing people because they could potentially one day be discriminatory, you have become the woke Stasi. You won’t actually stop people having racist thoughts or opinions by shopping them. You might possibly with open discussion. But the key thing is to act on discrimination, violence or incitement.

It’s a tough one with the whistleblower side of it. I agree that, on the one hand, it’s essential to educate people, and calling people out directly can start a conversation that may lead to a change in perspective. However, believe it or not, racists aren’t generally kind, reasonable people, and whistleblowing protects the reporter from repercussions so I generally support it.

Just because it’s online and not in person doesn’t mean spreading hateful rhetoric isn’t harming anyone. If they are posting online, they’re already openly being prejudiced—not just thinking about it.

Apollo365 · 20/01/2025 22:25

Tricho · 20/01/2025 22:17

Why anonymously? Coward.

Maybe OP doesn’t trust her HR.

Tricho · 20/01/2025 22:17

Why anonymously? Coward.

Dotto · 20/01/2025 22:10

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 21:40

And nobody can say whether it is or not without knowing which words were spoken. So no advice can be given.

You think you might know better than FB mods, who have an offensively high bar for hate content?

People demanding to know what was said are just being ghouls.

And how about we actually DON'T repeat hurtful, offensive, hateful remarks.. You know, because they are literally dispicable?

Ghruch · 20/01/2025 22:10

UnderFadedSkies · 20/01/2025 21:46

I absolutely would report it, and sleep better at night for it. It worries me how many people on here are absolutely okay with being bystanders of racism and prejudice. I think doing it anonymously is a personal choice, I wouldn’t feel the need to be discreet about it but i’m also passionate about equality and diversity and not afraid to speak up on the subject.

"What hurts the victim the most is not the cruelty of the oppressor but the silence of the bystander" -Elie Wiesel

Yeah but the alternative isn’t silence, it’s challenging the person directly. Racism is clearly bad but a culture of anonymous snitching is oppressive and awful in a different way.

Also, Wiesel was obviously referring to discriminatory action and violence. If you start punishing people because they could potentially one day be discriminatory, you have become the woke Stasi. You won’t actually stop people having racist thoughts or opinions by shopping them. You might possibly with open discussion. But the key thing is to act on discrimination, violence or incitement.

UnderFadedSkies · 20/01/2025 21:55

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 21:48

Islam isn't even a race, so you would be destroying someone's life without even knowing what you are talking about.

OP said race hate AND islamophobia. Prejudice against a whole group of individuals based on their religion is no better than prejudice based on race.

I wouldn’t be destroying anything, my conscious would be completely clear of that because I have never engaged in such hateful behaviour- that is all on the person being racist.

It’s 2025 bigotry, of any kind, isn’t acceptable anymore.

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 21:48

UnderFadedSkies · 20/01/2025 21:46

I absolutely would report it, and sleep better at night for it. It worries me how many people on here are absolutely okay with being bystanders of racism and prejudice. I think doing it anonymously is a personal choice, I wouldn’t feel the need to be discreet about it but i’m also passionate about equality and diversity and not afraid to speak up on the subject.

"What hurts the victim the most is not the cruelty of the oppressor but the silence of the bystander" -Elie Wiesel

Islam isn't even a race, so you would be destroying someone's life without even knowing what you are talking about.

UnderFadedSkies · 20/01/2025 21:46

I absolutely would report it, and sleep better at night for it. It worries me how many people on here are absolutely okay with being bystanders of racism and prejudice. I think doing it anonymously is a personal choice, I wouldn’t feel the need to be discreet about it but i’m also passionate about equality and diversity and not afraid to speak up on the subject.

"What hurts the victim the most is not the cruelty of the oppressor but the silence of the bystander" -Elie Wiesel

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 21:40

Dotto · 20/01/2025 20:50

OP already knows and has informed you that the posts spread race hate. That's not what they asked.

All these posters being deliberately obtuse and goady. No wonder they haven't returned.

And nobody can say whether it is or not without knowing which words were spoken. So no advice can be given.

DonutRings · 20/01/2025 21:37

BallerinaRadio · 20/01/2025 14:51

Wow the amount of people on here jumping to defend the potential racist is quite the eye opener.

People need to realise that actions on social media have real life consequences.

Quite. Strongly suspect that a lot of the "but what even IS 'racist' these days?" crowd on this thread hold some pretty unsavoury views themselves...

Ghruch · 20/01/2025 21:37

BallerinaRadio · 20/01/2025 14:51

Wow the amount of people on here jumping to defend the potential racist is quite the eye opener.

People need to realise that actions on social media have real life consequences.

But these aren’t actions are they? It’s just saying stuff. OP, my approach to this is to challenge it directly when I see it. I have had people back down and delete things when I’ve pointed out that it’s racist.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 20/01/2025 21:33

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GrouachMacbeth · 20/01/2025 21:27

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iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 20/01/2025 21:24

If it isn't an uneducated attempt to be " Political" then report away. We do not have to live around racial hatred or hostility anymore, and those that spread it need holding accountable. If that results in disciplinary action - then that's on them.

If we have women being marched to HR for being upset they have to share their spaces with biological males, then racists shouldn't be allowed to be racists Grin

TinDogTavern · 20/01/2025 21:14

As someone who has been reported, repeatedly, to my employer, invariably anonymously, for "transphobic" social media comments such as 'only women get pregnant', by people I'm sure just as certain as you that they were right and virtuous, I'm going to go with NO.

Porcuporpoise · 20/01/2025 21:13

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 16:01

On here a while back it was racist to look at someone and it was also racist to not look at someone.

So I think it is safe to say that until people know what was actually said, maybe reserve judgement before egging the OP on to 'report'.

Don't see why. I'm sure the employer will look at the evidence before deciding what action to take, it's not necessary for us to judge.

Brefugee · 20/01/2025 21:10

Dotto · 20/01/2025 20:50

OP already knows and has informed you that the posts spread race hate. That's not what they asked.

All these posters being deliberately obtuse and goady. No wonder they haven't returned.

We already know that what one person calls race hate can be totally not race hate. So unless we know what was said, we can't judge.

What we CAN judge is what OP wants to do. And several of us have said: if you report, have the courage of your convictions and put your name to it. Nobody is excusing racism. Racism should be called out, it is what i do if one of my fb contacts posts something racist. Depending on their reaction, i will unfriend and block. If i work with them, or if they are a member of the police - and that is clear on their account - i will tell them that i am going to report them to their employer and the employer can take the next steps.

I don't hide behind a mask of anonymity. And nor should OP.

TheKeatingFive · 20/01/2025 20:55

Okay OP, time to cut to the chase. What did the post actually say?

Dotto · 20/01/2025 20:50

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 20:45

As nobody knows what was said, nobody can tell. You get that right?

OP already knows and has informed you that the posts spread race hate. That's not what they asked.

All these posters being deliberately obtuse and goady. No wonder they haven't returned.

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 20:45

BoredZelda · 20/01/2025 20:44

Loving people trying to pretend racists aren't actually racist.

As nobody knows what was said, nobody can tell. You get that right?

BoredZelda · 20/01/2025 20:44

Loving people trying to pretend racists aren't actually racist.

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 20:34

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/01/2025 20:05

Link with timestamps please?

Get MNHQ to sort out a half decent search function and maybe you could find it yourself.

scorpiogirly · 20/01/2025 20:27

What did they say that you deemed to be racist and islamaphobic?

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/01/2025 20:05

AlisonDonut · 20/01/2025 16:01

On here a while back it was racist to look at someone and it was also racist to not look at someone.

So I think it is safe to say that until people know what was actually said, maybe reserve judgement before egging the OP on to 'report'.

Link with timestamps please?