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To be sick of people thinking vegetarian eat fish

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Dearaugust · 20/01/2025 13:52

Also, people who eat fish but not meat calling themselves vegetarian!

When people find out I’m vegetarian, a lot of people ask me if I eat fish. If I ate fish, then I wouldn’t be vegetarian! It wasn’t a big deal really, but an incident has happened recently where I was choosing a meal for a wedding and there was only meat options and a “none of these due to dietary preferences” option. So I ticked that. The person then contacted DH (it’s his friend who is getting married) and he explained I’m vegetarian. A few days later she said not to worry, they have sorted a fish meal for me. So he’s now had to go back to her again saying I don’t eat fish. What a faff!

I honestly thought it was common knowledge that vegetarians don’t eat fish. But apparently not because i get asked it a lot.

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NormaleKartoffeln · 21/01/2025 06:57

NeverHadHaveHas · 21/01/2025 06:19

I’m not comparing the activities of smoking and meat eating. I’m saying that if you do something occasionally - like smoking, drinking, eating meat - you can’t then say that you are a non-smoker, non-drinker or a vegetarian! Vegetarians don’t eat ANY meat. Therefore you are not a vegetarian because you don’t eat MUCH meat 🤯
No I didn’t miss out the word ‘mainly’, because being ‘mainly’ a vegetarian isn’t a thing. Again, you don’t eat much meat. You’re not ‘mainly a vegetarian’.

Where did I say 'I am a vegetarian' though? I didn't claim that. I'm mostly vegetarian not 100% vegetarian. It's more for personal reasons related to food textures etc and not for any ethical stance. The smoking point isn't relevant.

Housewife2010 · 21/01/2025 06:40

Should say "Or they don't eat meat but do eat fish. It's just an idea."

Housewife2010 · 21/01/2025 06:39

cordiallyuninvited · 21/01/2025 06:34

You just said they are pescetarian, which means they don't eat meat apart from fish.
If they said they don't eat meat, they'd not be being truthful

They eat fish. Which is a type of meat.

Fish is not meat.
There is obviously a problem with pescetarians describing themselves incorrectly as vegetarians which impacts on actual vegetarians. I am suggesting that if pescetarians don't want to describe themselves as such they could just say that they don't eat meat. Or they eat meat but not fish. It's just an idea.

cordiallyuninvited · 21/01/2025 06:34

Housewife2010 · 21/01/2025 06:32

No they don't.

You just said they are pescetarian, which means they don't eat meat apart from fish.
If they said they don't eat meat, they'd not be being truthful

They eat fish. Which is a type of meat.

Housewife2010 · 21/01/2025 06:32

cordiallyuninvited · 21/01/2025 06:22

Because they do?
Just not some types.

No they don't.

cordiallyuninvited · 21/01/2025 06:22

Housewife2010 · 20/01/2025 17:11

If a pescetarian doesn't want to describe themselves as such, why don't they just say that they don't eat meat?

Because they do?
Just not some types.

NeverHadHaveHas · 21/01/2025 06:19

NormaleKartoffeln · 20/01/2025 23:16

Um, firstly smoking and meat eating aren't comparable.
Secondly, did you miss the word 'mainly'?

I’m not comparing the activities of smoking and meat eating. I’m saying that if you do something occasionally - like smoking, drinking, eating meat - you can’t then say that you are a non-smoker, non-drinker or a vegetarian! Vegetarians don’t eat ANY meat. Therefore you are not a vegetarian because you don’t eat MUCH meat 🤯
No I didn’t miss out the word ‘mainly’, because being ‘mainly’ a vegetarian isn’t a thing. Again, you don’t eat much meat. You’re not ‘mainly a vegetarian’.

cordiallyuninvited · 21/01/2025 06:16

Greyish2025 · 20/01/2025 16:08

But as other commenter have mentioned there are vegetarians who eat fish!
So vegetarians seem to have caused this problem for themselves.
Is there a lack of understanding in the world of vegetarianism of what it actually means?

There aren't! Those people are not vegetarian. They might think they are but they are not.

RampantIvy · 21/01/2025 06:15

I'm glad for your daughter that she is a vegetarian. I just hope she's sensible and doesn't shout her choice at anyone in earshot

No, she doesn't. She is socially aware and not self righteous. What she eats is a personal choice. She doesn't object to other people's dietary choices.

I can't believe that you had a colleague who threw out people's lunches. I'm gobsmacked!

cordiallyuninvited · 21/01/2025 06:12

Feelingstrange2 · 20/01/2025 14:53

Every vegetarian I know eats fish! I think the issue comes from descriptions used by vegetarians themselves! Not really a meat eaters problem!!!

The people you describe are meat eaters. Just ones that don't eat some types of meat.

squishee · 21/01/2025 03:19

MajorCarolDanvers · 20/01/2025 16:20

They are not vegetarians though

they are just claiming to be

Edited

Self-IDing as vegetarians.
Transvegetarians are vegetarians... Not.

username299 · 21/01/2025 02:47

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 20/01/2025 23:24

There are no fixed rules. It's not great to be self righteous about these things.

Of course there are fixed rules!

I don't eat meat products at all. If you served me chops or something with gelatin in it, and said there are no fixed rules I'd be MN raging.

username299 · 21/01/2025 02:43

I knew a woman who insisted she was vegetarian because she only ate chicken and fish.

I've also met people who say they're vegetarian because they don't eat meat often.

🙄

CrowleyKitten · 21/01/2025 02:21

back in the 80s/90s SO many people used to say "I'm vegetarian but I eat chicken and fish. so it might be generational. people would say vegetarian when they meant they don't eat red meat.

but you'd hope that most people now would know better, and most people who eat only fish use the term Pescetarian.

PixieLaLar · 21/01/2025 00:33

This is an issue because so many people claim to be vegetarian - “oh but I do eat fish”.

So you are NOT a vegetarian then.

TempestTost · 21/01/2025 00:20

ErrolTheDragon · 20/01/2025 18:15

@TempestTost - but the OP was complaining about being told she'd be getting fish when she'd asked for vegetarian at a wedding.

Sure, but I think the idea of "being sick of it" suggests a more generalized feeling, outside of the moment.

I almost wonder if it isn't a little harder now than it used to be, because people have so many more different types of special diet. Many people don't seem to have a clear sense of what they all are. And maybe get them mixed up.

SkiingIsHeaven · 21/01/2025 00:08

In the olden days many people who said they were vegetarian ate fish, so people still think that is the case. It what we believed based on experiences back then.

I agree that it is daft but many of my "veggie" friends did that.

Now it feels utterly ridiculous.

Saying that, one of my "veggie" friends couldn't stop himself from eating bacon butties. He obviously wasn't very committed.

denhaag · 20/01/2025 23:43

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 20/01/2025 23:24

There are no fixed rules. It's not great to be self righteous about these things.

I disagree.
If someone states they are vegetarian, whether it's personal choice, food intolerances/allergies, or for religious reasons, they are well in their rights to expect the food to follow the 'rules' (correct definition) and for it not to contain fish or meat.

LoopyLoo1991 · 20/01/2025 23:39

RampantIvy · 20/01/2025 21:24

Have YOU met these particular people I'm talking about? If so what's your insight into them then?

No, I haven't TBH. I am omnivorous and love all kinds of food and have no dietary preferences or restrictions. DD is vegetarian and has been home for a few months. She is a fantastic cook and has been doing most of the cooking, so I have been eating mostly vegetarian food for the last few months, and very delicious it has been too.

She doesn't define herself by being vegetarian and neither do any other vegetarians or vegans I know, nor are they morally superior about their choices nor do they preach about it. But then, I don't make rude comments about their dietary choices.

I have no problems with the quite veggies who only mention it if you ask them if they can't something to eat etc.
It's the ones that stand over and say "meat is murder" or the vegan at my last worksite who threw out 38 peoples lunches from the canteen/staffroom's fridge - who I've mentioned on Mumsnet before - and was promptly sacked and arrested.
Some of them just seem incapable of keeping quite about it ... THOSE are the ones I object to ... as would any reasonable person.

I'm glad for your daughter that she is a vegetarian. I just hope she's sensible and doesn't shout her choice at anyone in earshot...

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 20/01/2025 23:24

There are no fixed rules. It's not great to be self righteous about these things.

NormaleKartoffeln · 20/01/2025 23:16

NeverHadHaveHas · 20/01/2025 17:41

Then you’re not a vegetarian you just don’t eat much meat 🤯 it’s like someone who has a fag every now and again saying they don’t smoke.

Um, firstly smoking and meat eating aren't comparable.
Secondly, did you miss the word 'mainly'?

AllTheChaos · 20/01/2025 21:26

Some people just struggle with it. My gran could never get over the fact that I (strict veggie) don’t eat bacon 😂

RampantIvy · 20/01/2025 21:24

Have YOU met these particular people I'm talking about? If so what's your insight into them then?

No, I haven't TBH. I am omnivorous and love all kinds of food and have no dietary preferences or restrictions. DD is vegetarian and has been home for a few months. She is a fantastic cook and has been doing most of the cooking, so I have been eating mostly vegetarian food for the last few months, and very delicious it has been too.

She doesn't define herself by being vegetarian and neither do any other vegetarians or vegans I know, nor are they morally superior about their choices nor do they preach about it. But then, I don't make rude comments about their dietary choices.

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 20/01/2025 21:16

I'm absolutely baffled as to how people can quite matter-of-factly assert that they don't eat meat but they do eat (the meat of) fish.

Meat is literally the word to describe the flesh of an animal when eaten as food.

It's like saying that you don't own a car but you do have a Ford Focus; or that you detest all TV soap operas, but you are a big fan of Emmerdale.

Surely, being factual, you would simply say "The only meat that I eat is fish"?!

LoopyLoo1991 · 20/01/2025 20:58

RampantIvy · 20/01/2025 20:54

And the stereotyping continues Hmm

It's not stereotyping if it's true about people I've actually met.

Have YOU met these particular people I'm talking about? If so what's your insight into them then? 🙄

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