To be sick of people thinking vegetarian eat fish

So you obviously didn't read my post immediately below this one where I corrected my typo?
Too ready to rush in and argue? 🤣

The arrest made the local paper I think?
The owner bought us pizzas and other takeouts after her rampage. We didn't get much work done for the rest that day apart from answering calls and emails.

She also had the audacity to attempt to take the firm to an industrial tribunal after all that!

If you ask for the vegetarian option it should be meat free, because that's what vegetarian means. It's also ok to say you mostly eat vegetarian but sometimes have meat, if that's what you do. If anything that's further clarifying that meat isn't part of any vegetarian meal. By meat I mean any animal flesh, including fish and sea food.

It doesn't always work that way though.

If someone is a vegetarian they should feel confident that when asking for a vegetarian option, their food is indeed, a vegetarian meal.

Allergies are a different example, but if someone is allergic to seafood and orders the vegetarian option, they should again be confident that this option is safe for them.
If people were clear on the definitions, this would not be a problem.

'I'll have the vegetarian option ' is fine to say, if you eat meat usually but just don't want to on the particular occasion. That harms nobody.

'I'm a vegetarian' then eating fish, is the reason some of these occurrences are not uncommon. If folk used the pescetarian word more often, it may help people know what it means.
If you'd rather not 'I eat fish, I don't eat any other meat' is fine too

'Vegetarian' when you eat fish/chicken/whatever and just not other types of meat, is not fine.

See also rather expensive 'naice' restaurant in London where the caeser salad had a big 'V' next to it..I can see how that could cause someone an allergic reaction.

If you work in catering, you should at least have some basic knowledge about food.

Is it that hard for you to comprehend that 'mostly' means that someone occasionally isn't following the rules of said thing?

See now I'm also mostly teetotal, in the same way I'm mostly vegetarian. It's safe to assume I'll happily not drink or eat meat, but on rare occasions I'll have a drink or eat some chicken. It doesn't affect other people in any way because I'm not saying meat is vegetarian or wine is non-alcoholic (though of course there are AF versions).

FFS catch yourself on 🙄🙄 No one is saying that murder/smoking etc are comparable activities to eating meat or that eating meat is a crime.
What they are saying is that if you do anything - no matter what it is - a little bit, you can’t then use a label which suggests that you don’t do that thing AT ALL. Vegetarians do not eat meat, at all. You do eat meat, even if only on a rare occasion, therefore you are not a vegetarian.

It is comparible not because of the content but the theme of it.

'I'm teetotal ' means 'I don't drink alcohol. It doesn't mean 'I don't like going out drinking but I like a glass of wine at home'.
It could result in someone bringing you a bottle of non alcoholic wine when you'd not like that..or someone never offering you wine at a dinner party or something.

'I don't smoke' means 'I don't smoke'. It doesn't mean 'I don't smoke cigarettes but I like a cigar at special occasions'. This could be confusing for people.

Vegetarian means something.. and as a pp said, unless the dictionary definition of it changes, it's important for it to be used correctly.

Anyone who is allergic to any food needs to double check what's in their meal.

Again, your opinion is of no relevance to me. I'm mostly vegetarian.

Pescetarians don't 'eat meat but not fish '. They eat fish, not other types of meat.

If fish 'isn't a type of meat', what do you propose it is? It is a type of animal flesh.

Not remotely comparable.
Murder is a crime.
Food choices are not crimes.

This thread went in an odd direction.

Not sure why people get so excited about what others eat or don’t eat.

I know a lot of meat eaters who are far more fussy than vegetarians.

Eating vegetarian or just more vegetables more often would make us much healthier as a nation. If people achieve that by eating vegetarian then good for them, crack on.

I know there is a stereotype about militant vegans droning on about it but I’ve never met any personally.

Your live and let live policy falls down if you're served seafood as part of your vegetarian meal and are allergic to it.

Er, yes it is. It's full of people trying to explain why they are right and someone else is wrong. Live and let live, I am not arsehole either.

Not at all - and I say that as an omnivore.

There's a commonly-understood, clear word, that's existed throughout the English-speaking world for a long time, which is a way that people who choose not to eat the flesh of land or sea animals or any of their products for which they have to die to provide describe themselves.

Other people can find a different word for themselves, as they choose, but that word is already taken.

It's like Bob insisting that he's a Muslim - except he doesn't believe in Allah, reckons that Mohammed was just an ordinary man and not a prophet at all, maybe says the odd general prayer every now and then, but nothing like five times a day, gorges himself silly throughout most of Ramadan (although he does occasionally skip brekfast when he wakes up late), never reads the Qu'ran and definitely never wants to go to Mecca as it seems utterly pointless to him.

"Ah, but of course Bob IS a Muslim... he's just a different kind of Muslim from all of the others..."

My friend says that she’s vegetarian but eats chicken 😂

My Auntie used to offer me fish fingers every time I stayed with her. She thought that they were a treat because my parents give me ‘nut roast and tofu’ 😂

I'd say majority of vegetarian I know eat fish. In everyday life I don't care. The problem is when I try to organise an event for hobbies for 30+ people (like a camp) and taken account every food restriction and then they come out and take something not intended for them. Or they can't eat something that has been prepared cause they're vegetarian but don't eat eggs. So I would absolutely love it when you sign your kid up, you'd specify if they are pescaterians or if they're vegetarians minus eggs or anything else.

How is fish not meat?

Which tree or plant does it grow on? Why does it have a face, animal-like vital organs and move around independently? Why does it resist when people kill it for food?

Er, no. It isn't.
It is just trying to explain the differences between people's dietary preferences.

That comment says a lot about you.
I'm not vegetarian, but I'm not an arsehole about people who are.

People who call themselves vegetarian when they are not, cause issues for the people who are because it messes up the definition of a word which needs a clear definition, that's the point of the OP.

I agree.

"I'm NOT a serial killer - because most of the time, I don't killer anybody at all!"

It is relevant, because it's another example of a thing you either are or aren't. You either are or aren't vegetarian. Like, you either are or aren't faithful to your partner - do you think 'mainly faithful' is the same as faithful? If you eat hardly any meat, you still eat meat. Which is your choice, I don't care what you eat, if you don't call yourself something you're not. Have the veggie option when eating out, everyone can, just don't call yourself a veggie.

People who call themselves vegetarian when they are not, cause issues for the people who are because it messes up the definition of a word which needs a clear definition, that's the point of the OP.

It's not relevant to mention smoking.
I'm mainly vegetarian.
You don't get a say on it, no matter how much you think you do.

It is relevant you just don’t understand it.

This thread is very much becoming We are all speshul but some people are more speshul than others....