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Applecharm25 · 20/01/2025 13:39

I have my period. I can feel that i need to change my tampon.

I'm out walking round my city. There are no public bathrooms anywhere near me.

I see a sign for a bathroom in a small shopping centre near me. I walk in. The bathroom is actually in a shop. I'm told that the bathroom is only available for paying customers.

So now I have to get in a long queue and wait further and buy something while I really need to change my tampon.

Surely there should be better toilet services available.

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OooPourUsACupLove · 20/01/2025 19:02

Also, the original comment about men's toilets vs women's wasn't about today but in reference to the historic "urinary leash" that existed before women's toilets were commonplace in public or pseudo public spaces and, whether by accident or design, served to keep women tied to the private homes of themselves and their friends.

Back then there were just public toilets, and the unspoken assumption that the only people in them would be men. (And yes men did piss in the street and in bushes as well. Given that horses were doing the same thing men pissing in public was probably less frowned upon, but certainly not something open to women, at least not once they started wearing closed underwear.).

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 19:01

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:54

No they are saying men don't need as many toilets because they can wee in public.

I don't think they're justifying weeing in public. They're pointing out that it happens. "Can" being factual rather than normative.

I think most people here would be on board with having more public toilets for both men and women. They're not advocating for more toilets for women in the expense of men's toilets!

devongirl12 · 20/01/2025 19:01

wholettheturnipsburn · 20/01/2025 14:08

I've never. And I mean never seen a sign point to "bathrooms" in public

2/10

I agree. Signs are always for Toilets.

Also "tampon changing facilities" ???? Because you "don't use the loo when you change a tampon"?

Well, I very much do. I change a tampon maybe every 4 hours or so. I would pee at the same time as changing the tampon. Why wouldn't you? Are you saying you either pee less frequently than one every 4 hours? Or that you would go for a pee at around hour 3 of tampon, but just pee and leave tampon in, then an hour later look for somewhere to change tampon....but not pee?

TheignT · 20/01/2025 19:00

OooPourUsACupLove · 20/01/2025 18:54

Out of interest, if there's no difference between women's demand for toilet facilities and men's, why are the queues for the ladies longer than the (often non-existent) queues for the gents? IME it needs to go way past 50/50 man/woman split at the event or venue before the gents queue gets anywhere near as long as the ladies.

Because we don't use urinals. I suppose they could do away with cubicles and fit more toilets in and we'd just have no privacy. This isn't what the OP is about though is it? The OP isn't saying she has to queue too long for a public loo but that there aren't any. Unless you think there are mens toilets dotted about cities without corresponding women's that is a totally different issue.

Anewuser · 20/01/2025 18:58

OooPourUsACupLove · 20/01/2025 18:54

Out of interest, if there's no difference between women's demand for toilet facilities and men's, why are the queues for the ladies longer than the (often non-existent) queues for the gents? IME it needs to go way past 50/50 man/woman split at the event or venue before the gents queue gets anywhere near as long as the ladies.

That’s obvious. Men have urinals, so they all line up and go at the same time. Not many use the cubical.

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 20/01/2025 18:58

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:54

No they are saying men don't need as many toilets because they can wee in public.

Men don’t need as many toilets because they don’t have periods and it is less common for them to take small children into the toilets with them.

Also men, from what I’ve heard, tend to be perfectly happy with urinals if they just need a pee. Women can’t use those.

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 20/01/2025 18:57

Hotel - toilets nearly always off the main lobby :)

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:56

Jillfi · 20/01/2025 18:50

I swear there are fewer than there were even five years ago in London. Every tube station at the very least should have toilets.

I think it's the same in lots of places. In my town the council have locked the public toilets to save money. I'm hoping they don't decide to lock the library ones or DH will be effectively under house arrest.

OooPourUsACupLove · 20/01/2025 18:54

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:30

No it doesn't need to be a disadvantage because men and women use toilets and some have more need than others. Some of the people with urgent need are men.

The sexism on this site is getting shocking.

Out of interest, if there's no difference between women's demand for toilet facilities and men's, why are the queues for the ladies longer than the (often non-existent) queues for the gents? IME it needs to go way past 50/50 man/woman split at the event or venue before the gents queue gets anywhere near as long as the ladies.

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:54

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:46

There's a difference between what people do do and what people should do. I don't think people are advocating for men to pee in public. They're just observing that some men do that.

No they are saying men don't need as many toilets because they can wee in public.

Jillfi · 20/01/2025 18:50

I swear there are fewer than there were even five years ago in London. Every tube station at the very least should have toilets.

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:46

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:43

Well it's been suggested multiple times on this thread.

There's a difference between what people do do and what people should do. I don't think people are advocating for men to pee in public. They're just observing that some men do that.

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:43

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:41

What? You're missing the point. I did not suggest that men should wee in public. I'm saying that due to their periods, women have an extra reason to be looking for toilets in public. Obviously having more public toilets benefits both men and women!

Well it's been suggested multiple times on this thread.

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:42

PonkyPonky · 20/01/2025 18:40

I don’t think anyone’s going to arrest my 4 year old for having a wee behind a tree at the park that has no toilets. But thanks for your concern for his criminal record

He won't always be 4. You happy for him to get a conviction for indecency?

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:41

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:38

It's sexism to suggest men can just wee in public so women have to be prioritised. How does the average work out if a man decides to just have a wee in front of your child or a man with a bowel problem shits himself? We need decent public toilets for everyone and we can all benefit from that.

What? You're missing the point. I did not suggest that men should wee in public. I'm saying that due to their periods, women have an extra reason to be looking for toilets in public. Obviously having more public toilets benefits both men and women!

PonkyPonky · 20/01/2025 18:40

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:39

Men don't legally have the option. How do you feel about your husband/son/father getting arrested?

I don’t think anyone’s going to arrest my 4 year old for having a wee behind a tree at the park that has no toilets. But thanks for your concern for his criminal record

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:39

PonkyPonky · 20/01/2025 18:35

You’re completely missing the point. Of course no one should be pissing behind a bush but if there’s no public toilets available, men have that option. Women don’t. The answer for everyone’s dignity and hygiene is more public toilets. The answer isn’t “well I can go 4 hours without needing a wee so everyone else should be able to as well”.
The things you’re offended about here are bizarre.

Men don't legally have the option. How do you feel about your husband/son/father getting arrested?

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:38

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:32

No men should not be peeing behind a bush. It isn't hygienic and it isn't lawful.

No one is encouraging men to do that. It's just that they do have that option in absolute emergency while women don't.

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:38

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:34

How is it sexism to point out that women have periods while men don't, and this is one additional reason to use toilets?

I understand the point that, obviously, both men and women use the toilets for various reasons, and some men do use toilets more than the average woman. But why is it a problem to point out that women are, on average, more inconvenienced by the lack of public toilets than men?

It's sexism to suggest men can just wee in public so women have to be prioritised. How does the average work out if a man decides to just have a wee in front of your child or a man with a bowel problem shits himself? We need decent public toilets for everyone and we can all benefit from that.

PonkyPonky · 20/01/2025 18:35

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:32

No men should not be peeing behind a bush. It isn't hygienic and it isn't lawful.

You’re completely missing the point. Of course no one should be pissing behind a bush but if there’s no public toilets available, men have that option. Women don’t. The answer for everyone’s dignity and hygiene is more public toilets. The answer isn’t “well I can go 4 hours without needing a wee so everyone else should be able to as well”.
The things you’re offended about here are bizarre.

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:34

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:30

No it doesn't need to be a disadvantage because men and women use toilets and some have more need than others. Some of the people with urgent need are men.

The sexism on this site is getting shocking.

How is it sexism to point out that women have periods while men don't, and this is one additional reason to use toilets?

I understand the point that, obviously, both men and women use the toilets for various reasons, and some men do use toilets more than the average woman. But why is it a problem to point out that women are, on average, more inconvenienced by the lack of public toilets than men?

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:32

PonkyPonky · 20/01/2025 18:30

You still don’t have a penis though to enable you to piss behind a bush if you needed to though do you. You still have periods which men don’t have. You are still a woman who factually has more need for toilet facilities than men. It’s not an insult. Just facts.

No men should not be peeing behind a bush. It isn't hygienic and it isn't lawful.

PonkyPonky · 20/01/2025 18:30

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:25

I've had 4 babies the smallest being 9 lbs. Having a baby might have affected your bladder control but don't pretend all women are the same. I'm sick of being lumped together with women who claim we all live in fear and have poor bladder control.

You still don’t have a penis though to enable you to piss behind a bush if you needed to though do you. You still have periods which men don’t have. You are still a woman who factually has more need for toilet facilities than men. It’s not an insult. Just facts.

TheignT · 20/01/2025 18:30

enkelt2 · 20/01/2025 18:28

You and your husband are just one case. I am just speculating that on average, it seems like women do wait longer in queues for access to public toilets. It's also a fact that women have one additional reason to use toilets than men. I might say two additional reasons, given that it's more likely to be women taking their kids to the toilets than men. Of course women are disadvantaged.

I also don't see why you have to point this out? It shouldn't be a disadvantage contest!

No it doesn't need to be a disadvantage because men and women use toilets and some have more need than others. Some of the people with urgent need are men.

The sexism on this site is getting shocking.

steff13 · 20/01/2025 18:30

ThisMintGoose · 20/01/2025 14:06

Always thought ‘restroom’ was more American…

Yes, that is what would be most common here In the Midwest where I live. I can't vouch for the rest of the country.

Personally when I'm somewhere I usually ask for the ladies' room.

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