What have I just seen:Trump

He slapped his chest, and then thrust his arm straight out with his fingers pressed together.

It was either an intentional salute or a man with no idea about history, who is stupid enough to do that.

Either way it's not a good look for him.

exactly. It's a deliberate attempt to throw the same old same old Nazi slurs. Grossly insulting.

I find it sickening and that people will pretend a gesture is a nazi salute when it clearly isn’t to back up their political stance. Millions died in the genocide. That gesture is not a political football for you to toss around without justification to try and win your argument. Extremely ignorant.

@Donttellempike

Based on your detailed analysis should Santa also be banned as he's "clearly giving" Nazi salutes too:

Exactly. He won the election decisively and is now inaugurated. The majority of American voters wanted him I’m sure they are shaking in their boots about the judgement of Mumsnet posters and their “we’ll see” judgements.

He knows what people want, promises it but then doesn't deliver. Unless you are one of the ultra wealthy.
I just don't see how people have been conned into trusting him again.

There were 2

Musk didn't do a Nazi salute, it's just deliberate misinformation by desperate folk, in the same way it would be deliberate misinformation to claim Kamala Harris gave Nazi salutes.

Sticking your arm out does not make a Nazi salute otherwise lollipop ladies up and down the country helping children cross the road will soon be accused of being a secret Nazi movement.

I think many people are utterly sick of the left.

Looking to infiltrate every part of peoples lives, telling them what to think and how to live, and calling them ‘far right’ if they dare to question the success of mass immigration, or if they should hold more traditional values related to sexual orientation etc.

A bonfire of wokeism is much-needed.

I haven't seen the third, do you have a link? No worries if not will hunt it out later.

That’s partly because many, many more people crossed the border!

It wasn't a Nazi salute but he is delusional in every other way.

The future of civilisation is assured? It would be funny if it was on the Simpsons.

Agreed.

We are sick about it (well, those of us with a modicum of intelligence)

I've been hiding in my bedroom with my husband, books and cats. I can't not even contemplate how to get through the next four years.

I find it staggering that people can genuinely defend a nazi salute.

The nazis didn't just go after Jews. They went after everyone that didn't fit their ideology. And let's not pretend Trump is pro-Israel, he's just anti-Muslim. He's made that perfectly clear. But this time the news cycle has moved on, so he's anti-trans, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-Mexican.

What’s naive is drawing such a preposterous false equivalence… Love him or hate him, but Trump is the most pro-Israel president in a line of pro-Israel presidents, and Musk is one of his biggest supporters.

It’s this kind of crap that has driven people to Trump over the last 8 years.

Yes, they really must be allowed to keep their slaves.

Say what you like about Trump, the man knows how to put on a show. It is going to be a wild ride for the next few years.

Quite so.

At least we shall have no more of the knee-bending nonsense.

I’m not a fan of Musk, but this talk of him doing a Nazi salute is nonsense…

1. He put his hand over his heart.
2. He then threw his hand out to the audience as a gesture of love for voting Trump while saying thank you.

That’s it. Over-interpreting what’s clearly an exuberant act of a socially awkward individual to reinforce the demonisation of the “other side” is totally counterproductive.

Donald Trump reinstates Winston Churchill bust in Oval Office.

That will wind up old knee-bender, Starmer.

Many horrified but there are some excusing it with some ridiculous excuses . Wish he would do that in Germany so he could get tossed in jail !!!

@izimbra

Which just shows how much their hatred of transgender women has fcked with their value system, that so many of them have raised their voices in support of the fascist, openly misogynist adjudicated rapist Trump, because of the Republicans enthusiasm for persecuting transgender people.*

(Referring to GC feminists) - so true. They say, though, they only support him for this one thing but not anything else, plus they don't live in the US so what does it matter? It matters. The UK - and other countries - are seeing a slide to the Right. This is engineered via all forms of media, primarily social media. Support DT/the Right on this, and the Left everywhere becomes the enemy. We've seen this.

I went to the rally grounds at Nuremberg a couple of years ago and felt sick to my stomach, as did everyone else in our party. It was eerie and sobering.

That's how today feels, too. Sickening.

So how come hundreds of thousands of people saw it?

Don't you find a man convicted of sexual abuse to be creepy?