Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Best response to MIL telling me to clean less?

137 replies

roses2 · 19/01/2025 12:32

MIL is a staying for 5 weeks (a whole other thread). I like a clean house. I will sweep the kitchen floor every day after dinner, and once per week hoover the hallway in between the weekly cleaner visit and wipe down kitchen counters.

Her house is dirty and cluttered. She’s asking me why do I clean so much, it’s pointless. Not to me it’s not. She’s just used to living in a house with 50 years of dust build up and cupboards full of items she never uses.

Her comments about me cleaning are driving me insane.

mumsnet people what is the best response without outright me telling her that her standards are filthy?

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
5128gap · 25/02/2025 22:59

People who don't clean much often think that those who do are wasting their lives doing something dull and unpleasant when they could be doing something more fun or worthwhile. It's far more likely when someone tells you to stop cleaning they think they're telling you to let it go, relax, live a little etc, rather than trying to sabotage your efforts to have a clean home out of jealousy because theirs is dirty. Next time just tell her "it's OK MiL. I enjoy it" and see if that stops the comments.

SnappyLineSwan1961 · 25/02/2025 22:39

Tell her I can't bear lazy people there is no need for clutter everywhere smile x

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 20/01/2025 09:09

roses2 · 19/01/2025 18:11

I did it once and only because I wanted a saucepan and couldn’t find one due to the clutter so I asked her why does she have three toastie machines and suggested we declutter.

why assume I did it repeatedly!

"she freaks out every time I try to empty her cupboards and ask why she needs 3 cheese toasie machines!"

That's why. "every time" means multiple times.

MzHz · 19/01/2025 22:15

roses2 · 19/01/2025 13:13

No, he takes after her!

Saying the same thing on repeat is probably the best approach. I might start decluttering too whilst she’s here as she freaks out every time I try to empty her cupboards and ask why she needs 3 cheese toasie machines!

she lives abroad and is visiting hence the 5 week stay.

But you’re just as rude! In her house she lives as she wants to. You’ve got no business emptying her cupboards ffs.

all the responses on here are a joke. There’s no need to be a bitch about this at all. Just say “you do you” and leave it there. Repeat as necessary

Elsvieta · 19/01/2025 21:53

HagsRule · 19/01/2025 21:38

Thanks @Elsvieta , you're totally right of course. Unfortunately MIL's a person who likes dishing it out but cannot take it back. V frustrating. I am dealing with it by just smiling nonchalantly and changing the subject. No reaction (externally anyway). Drives me nuts inside though. We hosted Christmas at ours and when everyone was relaxing with drinks etc I put dishes away in dish washer and sorted the carnage of the kitchen and she told me I was making her nervous and to just leave it until the next day.

It only took me about 10 minutes and also, I'd rather go to bed with things cleaned up and not trying to tackle dishes and work surfaces covered in caked in food the next day with a hangover. She does that though and it takes her AGES to clean it up, practically the whole morning. I clean as I go, the way my mum used to. It's the chef way! She uses every pot and pan, leaves food to stain or stick to work surfaces and to me that just adds more work later on. But that's my opinion, I prefer my way, she prefers hers but I think we just have very different standards and preferences. Which is fine, but I don't think it's necessary to try and keep making out that her way is better. It's just different.

What do you actually mean, though, by she "can't take it back"? If you give it back, what choice does would she have? What could she do? What's the worst that could happen? Why not be brave, and decide that you won't be bullied any more and that her feelings don't matter more than yours? (Especially in your own bloody house). The sky won't fall. She'll sulk a bit or whatever it is she does, and the world will keep turning. She has no power over you unless you give it.

FoxInTheForest · 19/01/2025 21:43

roses2 · 19/01/2025 13:13

No, he takes after her!

Saying the same thing on repeat is probably the best approach. I might start decluttering too whilst she’s here as she freaks out every time I try to empty her cupboards and ask why she needs 3 cheese toasie machines!

she lives abroad and is visiting hence the 5 week stay.

That's probably why she's making comments to you then, that's very intrusive and I wouldn't be happy with someone emptying my cupboards or questioning why I have things.
Its rude of you regardless of whether its common to have 3 toastie makers or not.

Loub1987 · 19/01/2025 21:42

Piss off

HagsRule · 19/01/2025 21:38

Thanks @Elsvieta , you're totally right of course. Unfortunately MIL's a person who likes dishing it out but cannot take it back. V frustrating. I am dealing with it by just smiling nonchalantly and changing the subject. No reaction (externally anyway). Drives me nuts inside though. We hosted Christmas at ours and when everyone was relaxing with drinks etc I put dishes away in dish washer and sorted the carnage of the kitchen and she told me I was making her nervous and to just leave it until the next day.

It only took me about 10 minutes and also, I'd rather go to bed with things cleaned up and not trying to tackle dishes and work surfaces covered in caked in food the next day with a hangover. She does that though and it takes her AGES to clean it up, practically the whole morning. I clean as I go, the way my mum used to. It's the chef way! She uses every pot and pan, leaves food to stain or stick to work surfaces and to me that just adds more work later on. But that's my opinion, I prefer my way, she prefers hers but I think we just have very different standards and preferences. Which is fine, but I don't think it's necessary to try and keep making out that her way is better. It's just different.

Elsvieta · 19/01/2025 20:59

HagsRule · 19/01/2025 17:47

Saving this thread as I'd like tips for managing my MIL about this too!

I like things clean, uncluttered and tidy and MIL is a hoarder and doesn't bother about dusting or things like that. Each to their own. Yet every time she can, she likes to bring up that I clean too much. I don't know how she manages to, but it always, always comes across as a dig at me.

For example we were all round at a family gathering the other weekend and the cousin's house we were in had just finished getting an extension done. The cousin was saying how much dust there was during the process and I sympathised and said I'd had that too on a much smaller scale with our radiators being replaced recently. MIL then piped up "I'm still finding dust in my house from when I first moved in (2 years she's been in, it was a new build) but unlike you, I don't care about dust, you obsess too much about cleaning."

Maybe I do, but regardless, I think what annoys me is that I would never, ever dream of criticising her house cleaning standards, and there's been a few times I've had to clean the toilet at her house before I used it, as it was totally rank!!!! DH helps her with IT stuff all the time and he said to me that behind his mum's TV was gross, with dust and crumbs and mouldy food things. Again, he didn't say anything as he knows she'd kick off and be all upset if he did say. Yet she gets to make out that I'm some sort of unhinged over-cleaner? I'm actually not, I'd say the OP actually cleans more than me, I hoover maybe fortnightly unless there's crumb carnage. I do use a dust and pan a lot after toddler dinner time. Anyway, my MIL's constant criticism is annoying. I want to just have a good response that shuts her up from now on.

How about "You don't clean enough"? Seems like a reasonable response to "You clean too much". Maybe followed by "DH saw mouldy food bits behind your TV" or similar? And then let her "kick off and be upset" all she wants, and stick to your guns. Why does that matter more than her upsetting you? If you want her to stop, she has to experience some consequences for what she's doing.

Elsvieta · 19/01/2025 20:53

"I'm not like you, I can't live in dirt".

soupfiend · 19/01/2025 20:20

roses2 · 19/01/2025 18:11

I did it once and only because I wanted a saucepan and couldn’t find one due to the clutter so I asked her why does she have three toastie machines and suggested we declutter.

why assume I did it repeatedly!

You said 'every time I try to empty her cupboards'

Which suggests some regularity, or at least not a one off event

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/01/2025 19:14

Thankyouforthrdayz · 19/01/2025 15:08

We are all different. You and MIL shouldn't judge each other. She's happy and healthy with her standards at her house, as you are with yours.
If you choose to spend time in each others houses you have to accept each others ways.
Just tell her "It's how I like it".

See, I totally disagree with this. If someone's standards (or lack of!) made me uncomfortable, I'd stop visiting. And indeed have, on many occasions.
People can absolutely choose to live how they want; just like I can choose not to be around it! 🤷‍♀️

RampantIvy · 19/01/2025 19:13

lljkk · 19/01/2025 18:53

You could just say "I like doing this. Cleaning is my happy space" ... why make this into a conflict?

I want to say, I would feel unwelcome and unrelaxed if the host was cleaning like that every day. I would feel I was being cleaned up after & resented. I have an issue a bit like that with my step-mum. exMIL could be the same. If someone is hovering to whisk away your dishes or vaccuum up after you, I just hate it. Makes me want to flee. Might be totally my terrible badness for being a total slob but I obviously (I'm old now) can't change so the seeming best action is to reduce contact since I can't help but be offensive to them by existing.

That's how it can feel as a guest if host is constantly cleaning around you,.

The OP writes "I will sweep the kitchen floor every day after dinner, and once per week hoover the hallway in between the weekly cleaner visit and wipe down kitchen counters."

That isn't excessive cleaning. If you think it is the problem is you. Don't most people clean the kitchen counters everyday, and sweep up crumbs from the floor?

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/01/2025 19:06

LuckySantangelo35 · 19/01/2025 16:18

@Chuchoter

why be so twatty to your MIL though?

I reckon it's pretty 'twatty' for OP's MIL to keep asking her why she's cleaning!

Whatever OP's response, if it causes an argument, so be it. Sometimes it's what's required for people to get the message about something.

lljkk · 19/01/2025 18:53

You could just say "I like doing this. Cleaning is my happy space" ... why make this into a conflict?

I want to say, I would feel unwelcome and unrelaxed if the host was cleaning like that every day. I would feel I was being cleaned up after & resented. I have an issue a bit like that with my step-mum. exMIL could be the same. If someone is hovering to whisk away your dishes or vaccuum up after you, I just hate it. Makes me want to flee. Might be totally my terrible badness for being a total slob but I obviously (I'm old now) can't change so the seeming best action is to reduce contact since I can't help but be offensive to them by existing.

That's how it can feel as a guest if host is constantly cleaning around you,.

saraclara · 19/01/2025 18:37

roses2 · 19/01/2025 18:11

I did it once and only because I wanted a saucepan and couldn’t find one due to the clutter so I asked her why does she have three toastie machines and suggested we declutter.

why assume I did it repeatedly!

Why assume that you did it repeatedly?

Because you said this:
"she freaks out every time I try to empty her cupboards"

nodramaplz · 19/01/2025 18:33

"I can't think straight in mess "

roses2 · 19/01/2025 18:11

saraclara · 19/01/2025 17:01

I'm going to guess that OP repeatedly emptying MIL's cupboards and challenging her on why she's got three of the same appliance, made MIL feel shit too.

It's interesting that OP hasn't been back since several of us have pointed out her poor behaviour at MIL's, prior to this visit.

Edited

I did it once and only because I wanted a saucepan and couldn’t find one due to the clutter so I asked her why does she have three toastie machines and suggested we declutter.

why assume I did it repeatedly!

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 19/01/2025 17:50

roses2 · 19/01/2025 13:13

No, he takes after her!

Saying the same thing on repeat is probably the best approach. I might start decluttering too whilst she’s here as she freaks out every time I try to empty her cupboards and ask why she needs 3 cheese toasie machines!

she lives abroad and is visiting hence the 5 week stay.

Why on earth do you try to declutter her cupboards? That’s totally out of order! Are you sure you’re not over invested in cleaning?

HagsRule · 19/01/2025 17:47

Saving this thread as I'd like tips for managing my MIL about this too!

I like things clean, uncluttered and tidy and MIL is a hoarder and doesn't bother about dusting or things like that. Each to their own. Yet every time she can, she likes to bring up that I clean too much. I don't know how she manages to, but it always, always comes across as a dig at me.

For example we were all round at a family gathering the other weekend and the cousin's house we were in had just finished getting an extension done. The cousin was saying how much dust there was during the process and I sympathised and said I'd had that too on a much smaller scale with our radiators being replaced recently. MIL then piped up "I'm still finding dust in my house from when I first moved in (2 years she's been in, it was a new build) but unlike you, I don't care about dust, you obsess too much about cleaning."

Maybe I do, but regardless, I think what annoys me is that I would never, ever dream of criticising her house cleaning standards, and there's been a few times I've had to clean the toilet at her house before I used it, as it was totally rank!!!! DH helps her with IT stuff all the time and he said to me that behind his mum's TV was gross, with dust and crumbs and mouldy food things. Again, he didn't say anything as he knows she'd kick off and be all upset if he did say. Yet she gets to make out that I'm some sort of unhinged over-cleaner? I'm actually not, I'd say the OP actually cleans more than me, I hoover maybe fortnightly unless there's crumb carnage. I do use a dust and pan a lot after toddler dinner time. Anyway, my MIL's constant criticism is annoying. I want to just have a good response that shuts her up from now on.

Theunamedcat · 19/01/2025 17:40

lto2019 · 19/01/2025 16:11

she needs a backup for the backup for toastie maker!

I've got two instant pots they are identical in my defense my youngest (very autistic) child went through a phase of twiddling my cooker knobs and as soon as I turned the cooker on at the wall the hobs would turn on and destroyed two instant pots and damaged a slow cooker (I occasionally leave them on top) because I used it so often at the time I bought a spare.....I hardly use it now

CheesePlantFeet · 19/01/2025 17:26

I'm so glad you noticed, I'd love it if you did the kitchen for me while I have a cuppa

saraclara · 19/01/2025 17:01

TheThreeMiracles · 19/01/2025 16:51

@Trifecta I'm glad you agree! I thought it would be funny ! If I had the guts my mil would have got a lot of comments like this
It's okay for mil to make their dil feel shit but not okay to have a whitty comment back xx

I'm going to guess that OP repeatedly emptying MIL's cupboards and challenging her on why she's got three of the same appliance, made MIL feel shit too.

It's interesting that OP hasn't been back since several of us have pointed out her poor behaviour at MIL's, prior to this visit.

TheThreeMiracles · 19/01/2025 16:51

@Trifecta I'm glad you agree! I thought it would be funny ! If I had the guts my mil would have got a lot of comments like this
It's okay for mil to make their dil feel shit but not okay to have a whitty comment back xx

Trifecta · 19/01/2025 16:46

Screamingabdabz · 19/01/2025 12:46

But if that were the case, he’d clean it himself. Unless this is one of those 1950s households? I don’t think this is cool answer you think it is. More trad-wife tragic imo.

Nope, it’s funny. Lighten up.