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To feel abandoned by my Mum

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 11:02

DH and I have a 7mo LO. I work part time from home around baby, he works FT outside of the home. Both self employed running a company. He works away occasionally, a lot over next few months but nothing can be done about that. We have had a tough few months with work since LO was born and I've had to work a lot without childcare help. It has been v stressful, but we are on the up now.

I've always been close to my Mum but less so over the last few years as she has had some lifestyle changes that have affected her time - a new partner and new job that she works 6 days a week (neither new any more). We are an open and honest family and since before I became pregnant i had a couple of frank conversations with her about it being hard to maintain our relationship because of how busy she is etc. She doesn't even have time to speak on the phone most of the time. When I was pregnant and we had conversations about it and she promised that she would semi-retire in January (now) after getting her state pension in December and would be around more and able to offer help and support. She has reminded me of this willingly quite a few times since LO was born. It's not just for help that I want her to do it, she has no time to spend with people inc her partner, my sister, other grandchildren etc. She has no life.

At the moment whenever we do see her, it's about an hour once a week and it's on her terms if she finishes work early, which we don't find out about until on the day.

I have no other family who can offer practical support and my in laws live over an hour away so although they can help if we really need it, it's not a day to day thing.

Well it's January and there is no sign of her working less. I've brought it up a couple of times (as has her partner) and we just get brushed off. I just feel so sad about it. She helped loads with my sister's kids when they were little (and they have a lovely close relationship as a result) and I can't help but think if she really wanted to be around more, she would do it.

It's so upsetting and if I'm honest I find it embarrassing when my friends Mum's ask if I have any help and I have to say no (I know this bit is unreasonable and I'm lucky my Mum is around even if not helping, I'm just being honest). My friends all have villages and I'm a bit jealous. I just never in a million years thought I'd have to go through early motherhood without my Mum's help and support.

When I'm not sad, I'm mad and I've thought about being less accommodating of her drop-in visits, but I know that's just mean and I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my face.

AIBU to feel abandoned by her?

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allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 19/01/2025 12:33

@Lovelamp you are actually sounding really entitled!! this is not about her having time to herself, it is about providing you with childcare!! you are a mum and you just have to adjust to it and do it yourself! even babies sleep sometimes!

Upstartled · 19/01/2025 12:32

She's probably just looking down the pipeline, rising utility, fuel and food costs and talk of undoing the state pension triple lock. It might feel like working if she still can is the safe bet.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:31

NormaleKartoffeln · 19/01/2025 12:24

@Lovelamp are you concerned about your mother's drinking? Not saying someone drinking on their day off is any actual reason for concern, but if she's choosing that as he main way to relax when she's off then it's not ideal. Not sure how you'd approach that one though.

I have been on occasion, but no I’m not worried. She definitely drinks more than she should, but I don't think she's an alcoholic, functional or otherwise. I'd say that a combination of her generation and demographic has led her to believe that alcohol is the only way to unwind and the main thing to do in your leisure time. She has no other interests!

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MsAnnFrope · 19/01/2025 12:29

The attitudes on here make it really clear why so many new parents struggle. Being an adult doesn’t mean never needing support, or wanting to be with the people you love. If that’s growing up then I’m a shit grown up.
if my mum had said she wanted to spend lots of time with DD and I and then didn’t do that I would have felt hurt too.
im really hearing that you feel disappointed and lonely OP and that makes me feel sad for you. I think maybe you just need to accept that your mum for whatever reasons isn’t going to be there as she said. I agree that meeting more people and building that “village” outside of family is important. Some on my closest friends now are from when DD was tiny, 12 years ago!

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:29

ChristmasFluff · 19/01/2025 12:28

If someone I knew had started working 6 days a week and not been available to even talk on the phone, both coinciding with a new partner, I'd be worried they were being abused, including financially abused.

I understand why you would say that but this isn't a concern.

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ChristmasFluff · 19/01/2025 12:28

If someone I knew had started working 6 days a week and not been available to even talk on the phone, both coinciding with a new partner, I'd be worried they were being abused, including financially abused.

NormaleKartoffeln · 19/01/2025 12:26

MagnoliaGirlie · 19/01/2025 12:25

Because it's a pretty existential change in someone's life, and specially postpartum is quite a vulnerable period. My mum came to visit me as often as she could and having her support, her care, her attention as a mum to me, as well as a grandma to my children, was priceless and really, really helped. When you're a mum, you tend to give so much of yourself caring for your children, having your own mum caring for you once in a while is really precious. I'm not talking about my mum treating me like a child at all, but she was/is really supportive, specially when I was really struggling and I needed a shoulder to cry on that wasn't my DP (some things, only another mum would understand them).

Support is needed, yes, not sure about mothering.

Ihopeyouhavent · 19/01/2025 12:25

She hasnt abandoned you, dont be silly. Her kids are grown and independent and she's living her life, which she has every to do.

You do sound a little resentful, but i can understand that, but theres nothing you can do. Have you spoken to her?

MagnoliaGirlie · 19/01/2025 12:25

NormaleKartoffeln · 19/01/2025 12:17

@MagnoliaGirlie why does OP need mothering?

Because it's a pretty existential change in someone's life, and specially postpartum is quite a vulnerable period. My mum came to visit me as often as she could and having her support, her care, her attention as a mum to me, as well as a grandma to my children, was priceless and really, really helped. When you're a mum, you tend to give so much of yourself caring for your children, having your own mum caring for you once in a while is really precious. I'm not talking about my mum treating me like a child at all, but she was/is really supportive, specially when I was really struggling and I needed a shoulder to cry on that wasn't my DP (some things, only another mum would understand them).

Normallynumb · 19/01/2025 12:24

I can understand you feeling disappointed she is not as available as you'd hoped, but abandoned no!
Kindly she is living her life as she wants
She may feel you just want childcare as you have mentioned it frequently in your post
Most people do not have, nor need a " village" to help bring up your child.
Your mistake is to compare your situation to friends who you perceive do have this.
Things are not always as they appear.
When I had my first DC, we were living with my seriously unwell DM and juggling caring for my child and her!
To others it must have looked like I had childcare on tap.
Make the best of your situation.. and create your own " village" which doesn't have to be family.

NormaleKartoffeln · 19/01/2025 12:24

@Lovelamp are you concerned about your mother's drinking? Not saying someone drinking on their day off is any actual reason for concern, but if she's choosing that as he main way to relax when she's off then it's not ideal. Not sure how you'd approach that one though.

Letstheriveranswer · 19/01/2025 12:23

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 11:43

@NormaleKartoffeln am I honestly coming across as that much of a bellend? Or are you twisting my words to make me sound like one?

No you aren't coming across as a bellend. You come across like you miss your mum and really want her around at this early motherhood time.

When my DGC was born, my DD was living abroad. I managed to spend 6 weeks with them across different visits in
DGC's first few months, partly staying with them and partly giving space but being around, because to me that was a time people need their mum's, or at least want to know they are around in case they do need them, and it's a chance to bond with DGC. We were always close.

Now, several years later, she never calls, doesn't even respond to texts for several days, never makes time to put DGC on the phone or for a video call. She is working hard, has lots of friends and a busy social life of which I see lots of pics on social media. I'm happy for her, but desperately miss my daughter. I don't think 'getting on and living your life' is meant to exclude making time for your family, except in our modern individualistic culture where people have come to see 'family' and 'living your life' as separate things.

However as some others have said, maybe she is struggling financially?

Have you openly told her that you miss her?

NormasArse · 19/01/2025 12:19

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 11:27

My sister is a lot older than me and I'm not resentful that she did it for her, life was different back then.

I'm really close to my Mum (or was until she stopped having time to even speak on the phone properly!) and I am really sad that my LO currently barely recognises her. It's just not how I imagined this part of my life would be.

Moving closer to in-laws not an option - it's not practical and it's not a place we would want to live. Plus we do have many friends etc where we live now.

Friends can be a village too. 💐

NormaleKartoffeln · 19/01/2025 12:17

@MagnoliaGirlie why does OP need mothering?

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:17

SallyWD · 19/01/2025 12:03

I think you need to change your perspective really. The tone of your post is all about you feeling hard done by. You want more of your mum's time and help, you're not happy she hasn't reduced her hours as she said. You're feeling hurt and from what you've said you've made this clear to your mum (several times).
I'd ask you to flip this round and see things from her perspective. She's presumably an older lady who's worried about her finances and can't afford to retire. She's working six days a week which is my idea of hell. She must be tired and seriously lacking in down time. She still makes time to see you each week even though she probably has loads to do and is tired - but can probably sense you're upset with her and want more from her.
If I was you, yes I'd feel sad that I couldn't have more time with my mum but I do think I'd be more empathetic and concerned for her. I wouldn't tell her off and tell her I struggled to maintain a relationship with her (that must have hurt!). I'd actually be thinking about how i could help her rather than what she could do for me.
I'd say this "Mum, I miss you. I wish we could have more time together but I know it's not possible at the moment. I worry you're working too hard. You raised a family and now you're working 6 days a week when you should be thinking about retirement. You must be exhausted! How about one night after work you come to our house. You can put your feet up with a glass of wine and we'll make you dinner. If you prefer I can take you out for lunch one weekend."

Thanks for your response, I appreciate what you're saying and how some of my posts have probably come across.

I have invited her for dinner on many occasions, she isn't interested - on a weeknight she is too tired (completely fair). I've offered to have her and her partner for Sunday lunch a lot too - again, she's not interested. She's kind of set in her ways and she'd rather go out drinking on her day off (again, fair, whatever she wants).

We've taken them out for Sunday lunch a couple of times but tbh shes more interested in getting rid of us so her they can go to pubs afterwards. I don't begrudge her this, but it would be lovely to see her once a month or so in a nice relaxed setting that isn't her calling in for an hour after work or squeezing us in at the start of other plans.

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LightDrizzle · 19/01/2025 12:13

Once a week is quite a lot and I’m surprised your 7 month old doesn’t recognise her. We saw my grandma much less frequently and while I can’t remember being a baby, my brother and I had a great relationship with her and it was special when we saw her.

It does sound like she’s doing a lot with work and social life and if I were her daughter I’d be hoping she eased off a bit but I don’t think you should really be aggrieved.

You probably know and do this already but if ever you do broach it, couching it in the positive about wanting to spend more time with her is much more positive than couching it in terms of her missing out on the baby. People tend to dodge guilt and you don’t what that dynamic at play. If every time she pops round she gets puppy dog eyes from you and suspects reproach behind tales of exhaustion then she may not be enjoying her time with you all.

I wonder if the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree too as I think from your post you haven’t really taken proper maternity leave and this is probably increasing the pressure on you. Was it financially impossible for you not to work during this time or was it at least in part a choice?

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/01/2025 12:13

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:10

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat thanks for your reply, I think I'm getting a hard time too, but I did post on Mumsnet so what did I expect 😂.

I do think she is afraid to retire / work less, but it's not only about money. It's so frustrating as she doesn't like the job, she works alone so it's not about friends there. She does often say she doesn't even have time to clean the house so you've hit the nail on the head there! If she loved her job or was out there living her best life as some PP's have referred to, I'd probably find it easier to be more understanding. She does just love being busy, which I do relate to as I'm the same.

I appreciate you sharing that it's hard being the mother of a daughter who has a baby. I will try and cut her more slack and be a bit more persistent in trying to book an appointment to see her properly! Thank you xx

Just to add too that she may not want to 'intrude' on your relationship, both with your DP and your baby. There's a world of difference between 'wanting' to come and see you and the baby and actually being able to, too.

I hope you work out some time to see your mum.

MagnoliaGirlie · 19/01/2025 12:13

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 11:31

I'm starting to think I've worded my OP wrong as honestly it's not really about childcare and that seems to be what everyone responding is fixating on.

Some childcare would be nice (an hour to go get my nails done etc) but mostly I just want her around a bit more, to be able to make plans in advance, to chat.

I know how you feel, and it's completely natural to need your mum when you become a mum yourself. You need mothering right now and your mum isn't available for that, and that hurts. My parents and my in-laws are all abroad so it's really hard as we don't see them regularly at all, which makes creating the bond with the grandkids difficult, tbh. And I'm not gonna lie, having the free, accessible childcare now and again so my partner and I could have some time together would be nice, but I've made peace with the fact that won't happen, and we'll need to wait for the kids to be older and pay for babysitters now and then.
It's OK to mourn the situation you wish you had. It's OK to feel jealous and angry that others have that on tap and not you. There's not much you can do but make peace with it, I'm afraid. You'll get through this and hopefully when your mum has more time, you'll have quality time with her.

Kitkatfiend31 · 19/01/2025 12:12

I think you are clearly feeling sorry for yourself at the moment as life is hard. However think about how this has come across on this thread and therefore how your honest conversations have maybe come across to your mum. Try to find some ways to solve your issues without it being your mum's fault/issue. Look for ways to support your mum and you may find your relationship improves. I wonder if you are really missing your partner during the week and missing your mum as fill in company. You have a relationship as well as her and maybe need to focus on finding ways for your DH to be around more.

LatteLady · 19/01/2025 12:11

Gordon Bennett! Having the baby is your responsibility, do you think your mum had lots of people around to help her when she was bringing you up? The early days of having a baby are tough for everyone, with or without help.

I know that I sound really harsh on you but very few mothers get the help that books and films seem to suggest that they might. You worry and push your way through it but you do come through it.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:10

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/01/2025 12:00

OP, I think you're having a hard time here. But I also think you need to think about your mum's point of view. Your mum is probably afraid to retire, because of the drop in income, maybe she feels guilty that she half-promised to spend more time with you but cannot bring herself to drop hours, she has friends (ok, maybe at work but she will enjoy being with them) and a partner and a house to clean and other stuff to do...

Being a mother of a daughter who has a baby can be complicated. Sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Make yourself more mum-friends, cut your mum some slack and try to see her whenever she's not working - (but you may need to make an appointment!).,

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat thanks for your reply, I think I'm getting a hard time too, but I did post on Mumsnet so what did I expect 😂.

I do think she is afraid to retire / work less, but it's not only about money. It's so frustrating as she doesn't like the job, she works alone so it's not about friends there. She does often say she doesn't even have time to clean the house so you've hit the nail on the head there! If she loved her job or was out there living her best life as some PP's have referred to, I'd probably find it easier to be more understanding. She does just love being busy, which I do relate to as I'm the same.

I appreciate you sharing that it's hard being the mother of a daughter who has a baby. I will try and cut her more slack and be a bit more persistent in trying to book an appointment to see her properly! Thank you xx

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SallyWD · 19/01/2025 12:03

I think you need to change your perspective really. The tone of your post is all about you feeling hard done by. You want more of your mum's time and help, you're not happy she hasn't reduced her hours as she said. You're feeling hurt and from what you've said you've made this clear to your mum (several times).
I'd ask you to flip this round and see things from her perspective. She's presumably an older lady who's worried about her finances and can't afford to retire. She's working six days a week which is my idea of hell. She must be tired and seriously lacking in down time. She still makes time to see you each week even though she probably has loads to do and is tired - but can probably sense you're upset with her and want more from her.
If I was you, yes I'd feel sad that I couldn't have more time with my mum but I do think I'd be more empathetic and concerned for her. I wouldn't tell her off and tell her I struggled to maintain a relationship with her (that must have hurt!). I'd actually be thinking about how i could help her rather than what she could do for me.
I'd say this "Mum, I miss you. I wish we could have more time together but I know it's not possible at the moment. I worry you're working too hard. You raised a family and now you're working 6 days a week when you should be thinking about retirement. You must be exhausted! How about one night after work you come to our house. You can put your feet up with a glass of wine and we'll make you dinner. If you prefer I can take you out for lunch one weekend."

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/01/2025 12:00

OP, I think you're having a hard time here. But I also think you need to think about your mum's point of view. Your mum is probably afraid to retire, because of the drop in income, maybe she feels guilty that she half-promised to spend more time with you but cannot bring herself to drop hours, she has friends (ok, maybe at work but she will enjoy being with them) and a partner and a house to clean and other stuff to do...

Being a mother of a daughter who has a baby can be complicated. Sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Make yourself more mum-friends, cut your mum some slack and try to see her whenever she's not working - (but you may need to make an appointment!).,

NormaleKartoffeln · 19/01/2025 11:58

@Lovelamp nobody is trying to 'make anything out'. Replies are based on what you've written. Do you have a good network of friends who might support/encourage you? A DH who helps with LO? A good childcare facility? You need to make a network instead of hoping your mum will change - much as it might hurt that she isn't more involved, it's her life.

spacepies · 19/01/2025 11:56

In the kindest way op grow up your a mum now this is what you wanted and you have responsibility now for the next 18 years your child comes first before you.
Just how it was for your mum.
Your mum has her own life now shes done her child raising years she is now living her life how she wants.
She not there to play mummy any more or to give you free child care.
You choose to have a baby and thats your responsibility not hers.