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To feel abandoned by my Mum

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 11:02

DH and I have a 7mo LO. I work part time from home around baby, he works FT outside of the home. Both self employed running a company. He works away occasionally, a lot over next few months but nothing can be done about that. We have had a tough few months with work since LO was born and I've had to work a lot without childcare help. It has been v stressful, but we are on the up now.

I've always been close to my Mum but less so over the last few years as she has had some lifestyle changes that have affected her time - a new partner and new job that she works 6 days a week (neither new any more). We are an open and honest family and since before I became pregnant i had a couple of frank conversations with her about it being hard to maintain our relationship because of how busy she is etc. She doesn't even have time to speak on the phone most of the time. When I was pregnant and we had conversations about it and she promised that she would semi-retire in January (now) after getting her state pension in December and would be around more and able to offer help and support. She has reminded me of this willingly quite a few times since LO was born. It's not just for help that I want her to do it, she has no time to spend with people inc her partner, my sister, other grandchildren etc. She has no life.

At the moment whenever we do see her, it's about an hour once a week and it's on her terms if she finishes work early, which we don't find out about until on the day.

I have no other family who can offer practical support and my in laws live over an hour away so although they can help if we really need it, it's not a day to day thing.

Well it's January and there is no sign of her working less. I've brought it up a couple of times (as has her partner) and we just get brushed off. I just feel so sad about it. She helped loads with my sister's kids when they were little (and they have a lovely close relationship as a result) and I can't help but think if she really wanted to be around more, she would do it.

It's so upsetting and if I'm honest I find it embarrassing when my friends Mum's ask if I have any help and I have to say no (I know this bit is unreasonable and I'm lucky my Mum is around even if not helping, I'm just being honest). My friends all have villages and I'm a bit jealous. I just never in a million years thought I'd have to go through early motherhood without my Mum's help and support.

When I'm not sad, I'm mad and I've thought about being less accommodating of her drop-in visits, but I know that's just mean and I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my face.

AIBU to feel abandoned by her?

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Margorett · 19/01/2025 13:26

Yes, you are being unreasonable. It's her life, not yours! You sound so immature, grow up and sort you're on child care out and if you want more of a relationship, fit in with her busy life. I hope she is able to retire soon and enjoy life with her partner, rather than having to be at your beck and call !

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:24

beAsensible1 · 19/01/2025 13:19

So many older people don’t want other to know when they’re retired or on reduced hours as there just becomes this HUGE expectation for childcare and errands and hospital appointments.

especially women. Family members making continuous plans for your free time.

I have no huge expectations of childcare or other help. I've been self sufficient from my parents for the majority of my adult life and have no plans to change that.

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:22

Shetlands · 19/01/2025 13:05

I feel so sorry for you as you sound like you really love your Mum and you're missing her. I don't know what the answer is other than to keep up the communication, even if it is one-sided, and be open to her fleeting visits.

Meanwhile, others are right to encourage you to build your 'village' with friends. My own mother wasn't great with young children so I developed strong friendships with people my own age and we helped each other through hard times and enjoyed the good times. My two best friends (of over 40 years now) didn't have close relationships with their mothers so we were well suited.

Look after yourself and don't feel guilty for wanting more of your Mum's company or involvement.

Thanks for your understanding. I'll take yours and others advice about building a village. X

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:21

beAsensible1 · 19/01/2025 13:17

But you don’t want her to give up work to have time for herself. You want her have time for you and LO. So when you come to her about it, regardless of wether you mean to it just looks self serving.

maybe she doesn’t feel ready to retire no that it’s here, or doesn’t want to have less money etc. it’s a big step, let her get there in her own time.

I think you might need to organise some paid childcare even one day a week. Stop waiting on your mum to retire , be proactive.

I don't want her to give up work. I'd like her to reduce her hours. I want her to do it because she said she wanted to and also so she can live a fuller life, part of that fuller life being for me and her GC and her partner to spend more time with her. More than one thing can be true.

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beAsensible1 · 19/01/2025 13:19

So many older people don’t want other to know when they’re retired or on reduced hours as there just becomes this HUGE expectation for childcare and errands and hospital appointments.

especially women. Family members making continuous plans for your free time.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:17

OriginalUsername2 · 19/01/2025 13:14

I imagine she’s keeping the job as it means she has control over her own life. If she leaves then she has to be at everyone’s beck and call as Mum and Grandma.

Sometimes you get to a point where you’re exhausted from being needed for decades and just want to be a person in your own right, if that makes sense?

Yes that makes sense and I think you're right. It's a shame if she does feel that way, if much rather she work a bit less and just draw clear boundaries about what she does / doesn't want to do in terms of helping or hanging out with us. I want her to have a full life too. For so many years we were her life, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing!!

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beAsensible1 · 19/01/2025 13:17

But you don’t want her to give up work to have time for herself. You want her have time for you and LO. So when you come to her about it, regardless of wether you mean to it just looks self serving.

maybe she doesn’t feel ready to retire no that it’s here, or doesn’t want to have less money etc. it’s a big step, let her get there in her own time.

I think you might need to organise some paid childcare even one day a week. Stop waiting on your mum to retire , be proactive.

OriginalUsername2 · 19/01/2025 13:14

I imagine she’s keeping the job as it means she has control over her own life. If she leaves then she has to be at everyone’s beck and call as Mum and Grandma.

Sometimes you get to a point where you’re exhausted from being needed for decades and just want to be a person in your own right, if that makes sense?

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:05

@Babymamamama @sandrapinchedmysandwich I am not pressuring her. I did not proactively bring it up between my LO being born and this month. She brought it up quite a few times. I have mentioned it to her once or twice this month as in "are you still planning on dropping your hours at work". I'm actually not bringing it up because I don't want her to feel pressured.

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Shetlands · 19/01/2025 13:05

I feel so sorry for you as you sound like you really love your Mum and you're missing her. I don't know what the answer is other than to keep up the communication, even if it is one-sided, and be open to her fleeting visits.

Meanwhile, others are right to encourage you to build your 'village' with friends. My own mother wasn't great with young children so I developed strong friendships with people my own age and we helped each other through hard times and enjoyed the good times. My two best friends (of over 40 years now) didn't have close relationships with their mothers so we were well suited.

Look after yourself and don't feel guilty for wanting more of your Mum's company or involvement.

HoppingPavlova · 19/01/2025 13:04

To be fair if my kids expect DH/I to retire before we medically need to (like everyone our age, we could, but why???), I’d think they were one roll short of the dozen. If it’s so we could help with kids etc I’d be less than impressed. We never had help as no relatives closer than several hours drive away and most a flight. We just pulled up the big people pants and got on with it, including some kids with SEN and physical disabilities. Hard but doable. When we retire it will be because we are no longer physically or mentally capable of working as we have that work ethic.

I’m sure there will be a brigade arriving saying hope you never need help/expect anyone to visit you later in life then. Personally, I think that’s quite ingenious in a way. Making sure kids have exactly what they need educationally/pastorally including paying private school fees if that was what a child needed, paying for expensive sports/hobbies throughout childhood/teenage/uni years, paying to put them through uni, paying privately for reduced waiting times for required surgeries, supporting them to get on the ladder in a tough housing market etc. Somehow it would all count for nothing should you not quit your job and commit yourself to assisting your grown children look after their children. Tis the way Mumsnet works.

EllieQ · 19/01/2025 13:04

LightDrizzle · 19/01/2025 12:13

Once a week is quite a lot and I’m surprised your 7 month old doesn’t recognise her. We saw my grandma much less frequently and while I can’t remember being a baby, my brother and I had a great relationship with her and it was special when we saw her.

It does sound like she’s doing a lot with work and social life and if I were her daughter I’d be hoping she eased off a bit but I don’t think you should really be aggrieved.

You probably know and do this already but if ever you do broach it, couching it in the positive about wanting to spend more time with her is much more positive than couching it in terms of her missing out on the baby. People tend to dodge guilt and you don’t what that dynamic at play. If every time she pops round she gets puppy dog eyes from you and suspects reproach behind tales of exhaustion then she may not be enjoying her time with you all.

I wonder if the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree too as I think from your post you haven’t really taken proper maternity leave and this is probably increasing the pressure on you. Was it financially impossible for you not to work during this time or was it at least in part a choice?

Very good point in the final paragraph here. @Lovelamp you’ve also said that you’re not using formal childcare, which as others have pointed out is not ideal as you’re not doing either role (work/ childcare) fully. This will be adding to your stress, especially as you say in another post that your DP is away Monday-Friday.

Another thing to mention is that if your sister is several years older than you, your mum probably had more energy at that point for helping with childcare/ babysitting. Combine that with how much she’s working, and it’s not surprising that she doesn’t have much time to spend with you, as disappointing as that may be.

Suzuki76 · 19/01/2025 13:04

PassingStranger · 19/01/2025 12:59

What do ppl do who ha ent got a mum they just get on with it.

Yes, but unless the reason they haven't got a mum is that she's a nightmare and they're no contact, they would be entitled to be sad about it.
I don't think having a mum who makes noises about spending time with you and then pretends she didn't say it is that much better.

ilovesooty · 19/01/2025 13:01

Perhaps she likes working. It's not for you to put pressure on her to make different choices.

ASimpleLampoon · 19/01/2025 13:00

This is your husband problem to help with and not your mum's

PassingStranger · 19/01/2025 12:59

What do ppl do who ha ent got a mum they just get on with it.

MagnoliaGirlie · 19/01/2025 12:54

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:51

Yes I do think we have workaholic tendencies in the family tbh.

No I don't think her partner is controlling.

Can I ask why you think formal childcare is necessary?

I agree with the formal childcare too. Me.and my partner worked full time while my 1st was at nursery part time and the days she was home with us when we were wfh, trying to split the day between us, were really, really, really rough. Always feeling like you're failing at everything f because you can't give your all to anything, always needing to catch up for lost hours in the evening and in the weekend, very little time left for freetime. It was quite miserable.

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 19/01/2025 12:54

Babymamamama · 19/01/2025 11:12

She’s allowed to work if she wants to. Maybe she needs the money? She doesn’t owe you anything and I don’t think you should be pressuring her to retire surely that’s a personal decision.

This. You are imposing your own expectations on her based around your need for support. Of course she doesn't have lots of time to chat on the phone if she works 6 days a week.

Perhaps she enjoys her work and this is part of her identity. She should retire when she wants to and you need to stop banging on about it.

Boomer55 · 19/01/2025 12:52

She has got a life - she’s living the life she wants to 🤷‍♀️

Shes done all the child rearing, doesn’t want to get involved, and now she wants life to be more about her.

Perfectly normal. 🙂

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:51

unmemorableusername · 19/01/2025 12:43

She sounds like a workaholic?

Why is she working 6 days a week at 66 in receipt of her state pension?

Could she be being domestically abused by a controlling partner?

Re your situation you need formal childcare both for you & LO.

Yes I do think we have workaholic tendencies in the family tbh.

No I don't think her partner is controlling.

Can I ask why you think formal childcare is necessary?

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:46

user8432176409 · 19/01/2025 12:35

My MIL raised 3 kids, and then had her daughters children regularly and for weeks on end during school holidays etc.
By the time me and DH and BIL and SIL had kids, she was having none of it, just had enough of little children I think!
It’s a shame as she’s not as close to the younger kids, but it is what it is, poor woman was just exhausted I think!
If she’s not just bored of babies, maybe your mum enjoys working more than you think? Or maybe needs to work financially more than you realise.

Oh it's been no secret in the family that I wouldn't get the same level of help my sister got. I don't have a problem with that at all.

She's so lovely with my LO when she's here, and she's delighted I've finally had a child (or at least she says so!). On reflection I think she really loves me and my LO and she's offered to be around to help because she thinks she should, but deep down she doesn't actually want to.

When she's here she always offers to take baby out for a walk and give me time alone - but I usually refuse as that's not what I want, I want to spend time with her. All that said maybe subconsciously she is worried that if she's available more she's going to get lumbered with a lot of childcare, as she did with my sister. I think she likes the excuse to get away / offer / pop in at her will.

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unmemorableusername · 19/01/2025 12:43

She sounds like a workaholic?

Why is she working 6 days a week at 66 in receipt of her state pension?

Could she be being domestically abused by a controlling partner?

Re your situation you need formal childcare both for you & LO.

user8432176409 · 19/01/2025 12:35

My MIL raised 3 kids, and then had her daughters children regularly and for weeks on end during school holidays etc.
By the time me and DH and BIL and SIL had kids, she was having none of it, just had enough of little children I think!
It’s a shame as she’s not as close to the younger kids, but it is what it is, poor woman was just exhausted I think!
If she’s not just bored of babies, maybe your mum enjoys working more than you think? Or maybe needs to work financially more than you realise.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:35

MsAnnFrope · 19/01/2025 12:29

The attitudes on here make it really clear why so many new parents struggle. Being an adult doesn’t mean never needing support, or wanting to be with the people you love. If that’s growing up then I’m a shit grown up.
if my mum had said she wanted to spend lots of time with DD and I and then didn’t do that I would have felt hurt too.
im really hearing that you feel disappointed and lonely OP and that makes me feel sad for you. I think maybe you just need to accept that your mum for whatever reasons isn’t going to be there as she said. I agree that meeting more people and building that “village” outside of family is important. Some on my closest friends now are from when DD was tiny, 12 years ago!

❤️ thanks for your understanding. I think you're right and I'll continue trying to build my village outside of my immediate family.

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:34

Upstartled · 19/01/2025 12:32

She's probably just looking down the pipeline, rising utility, fuel and food costs and talk of undoing the state pension triple lock. It might feel like working if she still can is the safe bet.

She 100% does not know what the triple lock is

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