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To feel abandoned by my Mum

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 11:02

DH and I have a 7mo LO. I work part time from home around baby, he works FT outside of the home. Both self employed running a company. He works away occasionally, a lot over next few months but nothing can be done about that. We have had a tough few months with work since LO was born and I've had to work a lot without childcare help. It has been v stressful, but we are on the up now.

I've always been close to my Mum but less so over the last few years as she has had some lifestyle changes that have affected her time - a new partner and new job that she works 6 days a week (neither new any more). We are an open and honest family and since before I became pregnant i had a couple of frank conversations with her about it being hard to maintain our relationship because of how busy she is etc. She doesn't even have time to speak on the phone most of the time. When I was pregnant and we had conversations about it and she promised that she would semi-retire in January (now) after getting her state pension in December and would be around more and able to offer help and support. She has reminded me of this willingly quite a few times since LO was born. It's not just for help that I want her to do it, she has no time to spend with people inc her partner, my sister, other grandchildren etc. She has no life.

At the moment whenever we do see her, it's about an hour once a week and it's on her terms if she finishes work early, which we don't find out about until on the day.

I have no other family who can offer practical support and my in laws live over an hour away so although they can help if we really need it, it's not a day to day thing.

Well it's January and there is no sign of her working less. I've brought it up a couple of times (as has her partner) and we just get brushed off. I just feel so sad about it. She helped loads with my sister's kids when they were little (and they have a lovely close relationship as a result) and I can't help but think if she really wanted to be around more, she would do it.

It's so upsetting and if I'm honest I find it embarrassing when my friends Mum's ask if I have any help and I have to say no (I know this bit is unreasonable and I'm lucky my Mum is around even if not helping, I'm just being honest). My friends all have villages and I'm a bit jealous. I just never in a million years thought I'd have to go through early motherhood without my Mum's help and support.

When I'm not sad, I'm mad and I've thought about being less accommodating of her drop-in visits, but I know that's just mean and I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my face.

AIBU to feel abandoned by her?

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Nothatgingerpirate · 19/01/2025 15:11

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 14:23

It's not only about the child though is it. If you read my post, I found the situation upsetting before I was even pregnant.

It's about the effort that goes into maintaining a relationship from both sides. It's not only romantic relationships that take work. Based on some of these comments many people on here seem to have no expectation to maintain a relationship with their parent / child beyond childhood, it's bizarre.

If I may grab at your last sentence, OP, it's very interesting.
I'm from another country, 45, and the examples I saw for myself as a kid helped me to make a decision not to have any children myself.
Largely people of my age and similar there, they resent their parents being still alive (roughly in their 80s for my generation) and there's very little effort to keep these relationships, as you said, in general.
It's because my parents' generation were, at the best, disgustingly emotionally abusive, worst cases physically.
My step sister is in a MH asylum, my cousin decided he didn't want to live anymore at 28.
Our parents were shit except few.
When rid, people are usually relieved (the 45 -55 age range).
Myself included.
Sorry - dire.

Winterskyfall · 19/01/2025 14:58

Wow, your mother is working almost every day in the week and you are complaining because she isn't looking after the child YOU chose to have. The world does not revolve around your choices. You are beyond self absorbed.

MagnoliaGirlie · 19/01/2025 14:32

MrsPositivity1 · 19/01/2025 13:59

@Lovelamp I'm really sorry this is happening. To me, it's naturally normal to want your mum with you, especially as you were very close.

I couldn't have done without my mum. She lived on the opposition of our city but came over every morning. I really needed her emotional support and advice - not childcare.

It's opposite now, my mum had dementia and it's my turn to support her.

I wish you all the best, motherhood is tough, I didn't take to it immediately and my mum helped me become the mum I am now.

This! To me, it is so natural to bring support to your family and your loved ones in times of need. I helped my mom plenty when she needed it, and my siblings, and vice versa. It's not about childcare, it's about care.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 14:26

dottymac · 19/01/2025 14:05

All I'm hearing is how she should be helping you and how her lifestyle affects you. God, how entitled 😬

@dottymac think you need your eyes tested

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 14:23

Nothatgingerpirate · 19/01/2025 14:04

Your mother is allowed to live her own life.
(lucky she got there, imo).
If you decided to have a child, it does come with vast, life-changing consequences.
I presumed adults were aware of this.

It's not only about the child though is it. If you read my post, I found the situation upsetting before I was even pregnant.

It's about the effort that goes into maintaining a relationship from both sides. It's not only romantic relationships that take work. Based on some of these comments many people on here seem to have no expectation to maintain a relationship with their parent / child beyond childhood, it's bizarre.

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 14:19

BlondeMamaToBe · 19/01/2025 14:16

It’s possible that she was able fo afford to work less when your sister had her kids. These days many are working all hours under the sun to keep their head above water. If she’s working 6 days then it’s unfair to expect her to run around for other people.

She was able to afford to work less then, and I have said I do not have expectations to get what my sister got.

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BlondeMamaToBe · 19/01/2025 14:16

It’s possible that she was able fo afford to work less when your sister had her kids. These days many are working all hours under the sun to keep their head above water. If she’s working 6 days then it’s unfair to expect her to run around for other people.

dottymac · 19/01/2025 14:05

All I'm hearing is how she should be helping you and how her lifestyle affects you. God, how entitled 😬

Nothatgingerpirate · 19/01/2025 14:04

Your mother is allowed to live her own life.
(lucky she got there, imo).
If you decided to have a child, it does come with vast, life-changing consequences.
I presumed adults were aware of this.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 14:02

MrsPositivity1 · 19/01/2025 13:59

@Lovelamp I'm really sorry this is happening. To me, it's naturally normal to want your mum with you, especially as you were very close.

I couldn't have done without my mum. She lived on the opposition of our city but came over every morning. I really needed her emotional support and advice - not childcare.

It's opposite now, my mum had dementia and it's my turn to support her.

I wish you all the best, motherhood is tough, I didn't take to it immediately and my mum helped me become the mum I am now.

Thank you.

I'm really sorry to hear about your Mum. Sending love ❤️

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commonsense61 · 19/01/2025 14:00

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MrsPositivity1 · 19/01/2025 13:59

@Lovelamp I'm really sorry this is happening. To me, it's naturally normal to want your mum with you, especially as you were very close.

I couldn't have done without my mum. She lived on the opposition of our city but came over every morning. I really needed her emotional support and advice - not childcare.

It's opposite now, my mum had dementia and it's my turn to support her.

I wish you all the best, motherhood is tough, I didn't take to it immediately and my mum helped me become the mum I am now.

PierceMorgansChin · 19/01/2025 13:58

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:53

Honestly. 😂

Don't know about your family @PierceMorgansChin but in mine we don't manipulate each other, we say what we mean and mean what we say.

Are you sure? Mu mum has never avoided me, but I've never tried to use her as a babysitter. I was attending gym daily, had my hair and nails done, paid for childcare or asked friends to have my baby and I would have theirs when they needed. You keep saying how honest and open your family is but your mum actively avoids you and you are posting on MN instead of talking to her. So much for that amazing communication

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:53

PierceMorgansChin · 19/01/2025 13:43

You say there's no expectation of childcare, but then you casually mention wanting to have your nails done. I bet your mum feels like I'd she comes for dinner she will be expected to engage with the baby rather than relax after 6 days of work. I, too, would rather go out drinking. She's had enough of babies. She is clearly not buying you 'missing her' that's why she makes sure your meetings are brief, and she has something to be right thereafter. Pay for childcare like everyone else, rather than analysing your mum's life, how much she drinks, how much she works, where she goes. Honestly.

Honestly. 😂

Don't know about your family @PierceMorgansChin but in mine we don't manipulate each other, we say what we mean and mean what we say.

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Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:52

@Nanny0gg I am hurt!

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Nanny0gg · 19/01/2025 13:47

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:29

I understand why you would say that but this isn't a concern.

But why doesn't she have much time for him either?

And I'd be hurt if my mum had preferred the pub to me and my family every time!

PierceMorgansChin · 19/01/2025 13:43

You say there's no expectation of childcare, but then you casually mention wanting to have your nails done. I bet your mum feels like I'd she comes for dinner she will be expected to engage with the baby rather than relax after 6 days of work. I, too, would rather go out drinking. She's had enough of babies. She is clearly not buying you 'missing her' that's why she makes sure your meetings are brief, and she has something to be right thereafter. Pay for childcare like everyone else, rather than analysing your mum's life, how much she drinks, how much she works, where she goes. Honestly.

Astrak · 19/01/2025 13:41

My son was in the British Army for many years. He was abroad for most of it. He married a woman from another country. I have met her once. They have three children. I met the eldest one as a baby, but not the other two. I get regular updates via the parents' Facebook pages, and it appears that they are all doing very well. I think that it's unlikely that I will ever see them in real life, but that's OK. They live 400+ miles away.

ClioMuse · 19/01/2025 13:40

Mel Robbins - Let them

BlondeMamaToBe · 19/01/2025 13:38

Yabu. Stop trying to control how she lives her life and pay for some childcare if you need it.

PassingStranger · 19/01/2025 13:38

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 12:10

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat thanks for your reply, I think I'm getting a hard time too, but I did post on Mumsnet so what did I expect 😂.

I do think she is afraid to retire / work less, but it's not only about money. It's so frustrating as she doesn't like the job, she works alone so it's not about friends there. She does often say she doesn't even have time to clean the house so you've hit the nail on the head there! If she loved her job or was out there living her best life as some PP's have referred to, I'd probably find it easier to be more understanding. She does just love being busy, which I do relate to as I'm the same.

I appreciate you sharing that it's hard being the mother of a daughter who has a baby. I will try and cut her more slack and be a bit more persistent in trying to book an appointment to see her properly! Thank you xx

Clean her house for her then.

ClioMuse · 19/01/2025 13:38

I get it OP and I do think you are getting a hard time here.

As it turned out my parents emigrated on retirement so weren't around at all for visits etc. when dd was born. DH and I don't have any family around and used nursery care for DD which was fine and we'd have done this anyway but having someone to call on for an emergency would have been nice whether a grandparent or aunt. But that's modern life for you.

My parents show no interest in my daughter and live very far away so I just get on with things.

As Mel Robbins says 'Let them' - you have to let people do as they please as you won't change them but you have a choice as to how to react to that.

In your position I'd let your Mum do as she wishes. The plus side is you can do as you wish too so build your life with friends and your nuclear family as your main focus.

I think the upset here is that you thought things would be different and I do feel for you.

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:34

So many helpful responses, thank you. A healthy number of judgemental responses as always too 😂 which have actually also been helpful on this occasion as it made me say how many people think it's all about childcare when it's not.

For once, I'm glad I posted here as I do feel I've got some different perspectives and it's made me think about the situation a bit differently. Despite the fact that I've turned down nearly every childcare offer she's given me since my child was born, I do think that my mum is perhaps anxious that when she reduces her hours, she will get lumbered with more childcare than she wants to do.

While I like to think that she knows me well enough for this to not be the case, she really did go above and beyond with my sister's children. It hasn't occurred to me that she might think this will be expected of her or even that she might expect it of herself (she does like to make us all equal!).

I genuinely do only want the best for her, and I'd like to see her drop her hours even if she did so without any intention to spend more time with us (although obviously that would be upsetting!).

I'm lucky to have a good relationship with her where we can talk openly and honestly. I'm going to bring it up with her again, from a different angle, and make sure she knows that there will be no significant childcare expectation on her if and when she decides to reduce her hours at work. I genuinely just want my mum around a bit more!

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Labrawindow · 19/01/2025 13:31

I hear you Op, it’s sad. I’ve got friends with doting grand parents, huge families with cousins, aunties, uncles falling over themselves to help. They go away on holidays together, some take the kids away for a week so the parents get a break!

My Mum hasn’t ever come to us, can’t be bothered and makes no effort at all. it’s been months since she called. It makes me so sad, but I won’t change her and have to make the most of my friend network, who do like to hang out with me!
But I know how sad it is.

PassingStranger · 19/01/2025 13:27

Lovelamp · 19/01/2025 13:21

I don't want her to give up work. I'd like her to reduce her hours. I want her to do it because she said she wanted to and also so she can live a fuller life, part of that fuller life being for me and her GC and her partner to spend more time with her. More than one thing can be true.

How do you know she will spend more time with you lol when she's retired.
She might take out a membership at the local gym or go travelling.