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Friend asked for money for freezing eggs/IVF. I feel strange/lost.

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fjordsnights · 18/01/2025 11:02

Hi all,

Was hoping for some advice/insight. In recent times, things haven't been going well. My partner died - albeit not so recently - but almost two years ago. It's been a nightmare though in terms of settling the estate - not due to anyone contesting the will or anything, but rather in terms of admin as we are dual citizens/tax etc... so the grief as well as the admin still feels very raw.

In terms of my career, things have been going well, so there's that. No, I'm not on LinkedIn or FB or Instagram. I don't post career 'wins' on the internet or apps or anything like that. However, my new role has meant a lot of travel to the US. (I am a dual citizen of the UK/US).

My friend initially thought the travel was due to my partner's estate/admin related - and she wasn't wrong. However, in the past 5 months, it's been due to work too given my new role. She then took this to mean I was a 'high flyer'. I am not. Far far far from it.

Anyway, she's looking to get married/have kids. This is great for her and I hope she finds that. She recently said she doesn't think it's going to happen for her and she's worried she's not going to find someone in good time (she's single at the moment). She asked if I would give her money for egg freezing - and potentially IVF treatment (down the line). I didn't know what to say as I was so taken aback. She asked me over FaceTime as I was abroad.

I suspect it's because she feels like I've received money as a result of my partner's passing and/or because of my new role at work. I was abroad when she asked me - but I am now back in the UK. I told her I'd be back yesterday.

She texted me last night saying: "Don't worry about it. I'm taking the money out of my savings. But IVF might be a different story, so let's just wait and see."

AIBU to think it's not right to ask for money from a friend when you have savings? Also, does her message imply she'd ask again when undergoing IVF?

These past few months have been really bizarre in general - after a period of so much grief and loss. I don't know what to do/think about most things these days.

OP posts:
DuskyPink1984 · 18/01/2025 12:09

Please don’t do it.

shiverm · 18/01/2025 12:08

That is so, so...so weird. Speaking as a person going through ivf who was in your pal's shoes about 5 years ago (although I wasn't aware of egg freezing at the time) I would never, ever have considered asking someone else to fund treatment. Let alone earmarking my bereaved friend's money for my future. It's such a strange request that makes me think she must be going through an extremely self involved part of her life. It's just so strange she thinks she has the right to your money. I mean unless you're a billionaire. Even then, I'd be so embarrassed to ask for something in case you thought I was only friends with you to use you.

The only context I can imagine someone asking is if you were both quite drunk and she blurted it out.

I've discovered through hard times that a friend I loved was actually no friend at all. It was extremely hurtful, and I'm sorry if this is to happen to you.

Probablyshouldntsay · 18/01/2025 12:07

She’s a vulture

Nazzywish · 18/01/2025 12:07

So why are YOU not putting boundaries in place OP? This is down to you and your lack ilof response. You need to shut this down now via text or chat and explain you can't help and didn't want to give the impression you could so she wasn't banking on you in the future.she has seen a chance and is trying to take advantage so grow some courage and be direct.

This is a complete non issue if you had just replied and still can reply that sorry no my money is tied up or I don't have any.

Autumnalmists · 18/01/2025 12:07

So sorry for you loss.

What your financial situation is, does not mean you are there to give money to other people! And you have not only lost your partner but with that all of their future earnings, pension etc. any money you have is for your future.

How rude and entitled this person is. Nobody is entitled to children either.
how old is she? Many people conceive, even if it takes some time, at age 40!
if she is that concerned she could but donor sperm and start the journey to being a solo parent!

I hope you can surround yourself supportive people.

katepilar · 18/01/2025 12:07

Its not ok to ask friends to GIVE you money. Full stop. Savings or not.

LAMPS1 · 18/01/2025 12:05

Savings or not, she is very unreasonable to ask.

Let her know as soon as you can that you won’t be doing this. Never ever talk to her about your finances. Her perceived path to motherhood is her personal affair as are your assets and income.

Hi friend, I was rather shocked by your assumption that I’m in a position to fund your egg freezing and IVF when this is something I won’t ever be in a position to do. I just wanted to get that clear between us and out of the way, before we meet up again so that it doesn’t spoil our friendship. See you next week at …..

WearyAuldWumman · 18/01/2025 12:03

VWT5 · 18/01/2025 11:42

Totally understand what you say Op, and feel for you, especially about all the admin afterwards, and this on top of everything else. (Been through the same).

I honestly feel sick at what your friend has asked of you, it’s abhorrent of her.

I wouldn't give it any consideration at all, plus find a way of permanently shutting it down (“modest funds were invested in a pension - accessible when I retire” as an example).

I had someone turn up “for coffee” with me about 3 weeks into being suddenly widowed - wanted money to start a beauty business…

Numb and shocked at the time - but now angry.

3 weeks?!

The behaviour was appalling…but trying to abuse your grief at the 3 week stage is inhuman. I’m so sorry.

3luckystars · 18/01/2025 12:02

Floralnomad · 18/01/2025 11:08

I’d send her a message roughly saying ‘ I have no idea why you think I’m in a position to help you out financially , I am not and please do not spoil our friendship by asking again ‘ . It may mean you lose her as a friend , which would probably be a win . Sorry for your loss 💐

I love this message.

FruminariaBandersnatchiosum · 18/01/2025 12:01

sueelleker · 18/01/2025 11:22

If she can't afford the freezing or IVF, how is she going to afford to raise a child? YANBU

This. She is going to be in for a shock if she actually gets pregnant or is she going to lean on all her other mates to pay for that too?

Is this person normally a bit of a CF OP?

toomuchfaff · 18/01/2025 12:01

Floralnomad · 18/01/2025 11:08

I’d send her a message roughly saying ‘ I have no idea why you think I’m in a position to help you out financially , I am not and please do not spoil our friendship by asking again ‘ . It may mean you lose her as a friend , which would probably be a win . Sorry for your loss 💐

This.

You need to make it absolutely clear to her that her recent ask is not acceptable to you.

So sorry for your loss, lose the "friend" too, they are not a friend when they see you and their perception of you as opportunity for themselves.

MissUltraViolet · 18/01/2025 12:00

It was cheeky to ask but to ask when she has her own money in savings makes it an absolute joke.

Wish her luck but make it clear you will not be funding any IVF for her now or in the future.

I wouldn’t worry about losing this ‘friendship’. It should be done for you at this point anyway, she has ruined it.

Marcosjob · 18/01/2025 12:00

Tell her no, your finances are none of her business so the assumption you can afford to give her £££ is CF territory. Very insensitive of her too.

Newfoundzestforlife · 18/01/2025 11:59

She put you in a really uncomfortable position at a difficult time in your life. Not ok.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/01/2025 11:59

AlbertCamusflage · 18/01/2025 11:31

I agree that your friend is being bizarre and unfair in asking you for money in this way. I think it would be fine for you to politely tell her that you don't want her to ask this of you again.

But my reply here is more motivated by your general sense of grief, loss and confusion. You are still deep in bereavement, and that plus the admin stresses you mention is an awful lot to deal with.

My own experience of a bad bereavement has left me with a very generalised sense of confusion and numbness. Everything feels out of kilter and strange, like coming into a film halfway through where everyone but you understands the plot.

I think you do have to take particular care of yourself. Probably without meaning to , your friend is at risk of getting something from you not as the result of an authentic choice on your part but as a result of the confusions of bereavement.

I hope that you have had some counselling already and/or that you are able to think about doing this in the future. If you do have any spare cash for healthcare/medical-style expenses it is your needs, not your friend's needs that the money should be spent on Flowers

EDIT: Just to add, I do think you sjhould be pretty direct with her, since she had overstepped so much. Something like "I wish you all the best with this [friend] but I don't really think it is appropriate for me to be helping you finance it. Please don't ask me again."

Edited

Yes, when you’re still raw from a major bereavement, you’re vulnerable and can make bad decisions.

OP should make it clear that she cannot fund her “friend”.

Getuptherenow · 18/01/2025 11:58

To echo what someone else said, she's not your friend. She's a user.

ListenDontJudge · 18/01/2025 11:58

Butthistimesticktoit · 18/01/2025 11:52

She’s no friend of yours, kick to the curb and never see her again.

AND, the fastest, most reliable way of getting rid of her and never seeing her for dust, would be to say ‘Mary, I really didn’t want to tell anyone this but I know I can confide in you. Derek didn’t leave any money, in fact he left his affairs in a highly secretive debt-laden mess, which is why I’ve been working so hard to try and get straight. But now that I know you have savings - do you think I could borrow some money from YOU?’

Tumbleweeeeeeed, the faint smell of scorched rubber tyres in the far distance.

Oh this is brilliant!

RobinEllacotStrike · 18/01/2025 11:57

What a brass neck she has.

If you continue with this friendship do prepare a snappy answer so you have it to hand for future requests for contributions towards IVF and surrogacy.

ChampagneLassie · 18/01/2025 11:57

Floralnomad · 18/01/2025 11:08

I’d send her a message roughly saying ‘ I have no idea why you think I’m in a position to help you out financially , I am not and please do not spoil our friendship by asking again ‘ . It may mean you lose her as a friend , which would probably be a win . Sorry for your loss 💐

This

Waterweight · 18/01/2025 11:57

Waterweight · 18/01/2025 11:23

Absolutely not!

Egg freezing = Maybe if necessary & for a limited time assuming it was something she was in the process of doing

IVF = no

Either way though you don't agree to anything "in advance" or indefinitely least of all somebody's £20k+ project

(Also sorry to hear about your husband but I just have very strict opinions on the actual question)

Also too add: if she freezes her eggs now & doesn't find a man who's wealthy enough or supportive enough to want to go through with it she won't need IVF

& If she chooses to go it alone then she'll have had however many years to save for it

(But I think it's quite difficult aswell to freeze eggs with no sperm as they don't last as well or as long)

BlondeMamaToBe · 18/01/2025 11:57

Shut it down right now. Tell her you won’t be giving money for anything.

ListenDontJudge · 18/01/2025 11:56

Floralnomad · 18/01/2025 11:08

I’d send her a message roughly saying ‘ I have no idea why you think I’m in a position to help you out financially , I am not and please do not spoil our friendship by asking again ‘ . It may mean you lose her as a friend , which would probably be a win . Sorry for your loss 💐

This. I don't think it would be a great loss, as she doesn't sound a great friend. You have no idea what is around the corner for you in terms of health or redundancy - or positive things like a house move or travel.

If she wants a baby, there are other ways. Hmm

DaringLion · 18/01/2025 11:53

What a cheek , you look after yourself.

Pickledpoppetpickle · 18/01/2025 11:53

I would tell her clearly that you don't have money for IVF and then I would back away from the friendship if there was any further attempts to discuss it with you, particularly if those attempts are about what you earn/what money you have in the bank as a result of your loss. And I am very sorry for your loss.

KimberleyClark · 18/01/2025 11:53

Absolutely don’t give her money. What a cheeky cow.

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