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Friend asked for money for freezing eggs/IVF. I feel strange/lost.

391 replies

fjordsnights · 18/01/2025 11:02

Hi all,

Was hoping for some advice/insight. In recent times, things haven't been going well. My partner died - albeit not so recently - but almost two years ago. It's been a nightmare though in terms of settling the estate - not due to anyone contesting the will or anything, but rather in terms of admin as we are dual citizens/tax etc... so the grief as well as the admin still feels very raw.

In terms of my career, things have been going well, so there's that. No, I'm not on LinkedIn or FB or Instagram. I don't post career 'wins' on the internet or apps or anything like that. However, my new role has meant a lot of travel to the US. (I am a dual citizen of the UK/US).

My friend initially thought the travel was due to my partner's estate/admin related - and she wasn't wrong. However, in the past 5 months, it's been due to work too given my new role. She then took this to mean I was a 'high flyer'. I am not. Far far far from it.

Anyway, she's looking to get married/have kids. This is great for her and I hope she finds that. She recently said she doesn't think it's going to happen for her and she's worried she's not going to find someone in good time (she's single at the moment). She asked if I would give her money for egg freezing - and potentially IVF treatment (down the line). I didn't know what to say as I was so taken aback. She asked me over FaceTime as I was abroad.

I suspect it's because she feels like I've received money as a result of my partner's passing and/or because of my new role at work. I was abroad when she asked me - but I am now back in the UK. I told her I'd be back yesterday.

She texted me last night saying: "Don't worry about it. I'm taking the money out of my savings. But IVF might be a different story, so let's just wait and see."

AIBU to think it's not right to ask for money from a friend when you have savings? Also, does her message imply she'd ask again when undergoing IVF?

These past few months have been really bizarre in general - after a period of so much grief and loss. I don't know what to do/think about most things these days.

OP posts:
enkelt2 · 18/01/2025 13:08

Tell her No. Don't even tell her why, because she will then be able to retort and manipulate you based on what you say.

Hwi · 18/01/2025 13:08

Please, don't!

HT2025 · 18/01/2025 13:08

"Don't worry about it. I'm taking the money out of my savings. But IVF might be a different story, so let's just wait and see."

"Let's just wait and see"???? What? Who does she think is "us"?

So she is prepping you to pay for IVF, but oh-so-kindly telling you not to worry yet.

She sounds mad.

Purplecatshopaholic · 18/01/2025 13:06

Bizarre and very cheeky. If she actually asks, just say no. And distance yourself from her, she’s a user.

Justsayit123 · 18/01/2025 13:06

What a cheeky cow! Just ignore her and don’t give her a penny.

mummytrex · 18/01/2025 12:59

Floralnomad · 18/01/2025 11:08

I’d send her a message roughly saying ‘ I have no idea why you think I’m in a position to help you out financially , I am not and please do not spoil our friendship by asking again ‘ . It may mean you lose her as a friend , which would probably be a win . Sorry for your loss 💐

She isn't your friend. She's a CF and she will ask again so I'd send this whilst phasing her out.

Volumedelachanel · 18/01/2025 12:59

Floralnomad · 18/01/2025 11:08

I’d send her a message roughly saying ‘ I have no idea why you think I’m in a position to help you out financially , I am not and please do not spoil our friendship by asking again ‘ . It may mean you lose her as a friend , which would probably be a win . Sorry for your loss 💐

💯 this. People never fail to shock you do they.

Banyon · 18/01/2025 12:59

You need to reply with something like this.

Dear friend,
I love for you that you are planning a family, and it’s a shame you are worrying about finances!

It’s lovely that you thought of me when you worried about money. I feel quite private about my situation, but can tell you that I do not have money to give away. I must be very clear - I cannot pay for your IVF.

I worry that this news is upsetting, I don’t want you to worry that your dreams cannot come true without me paying. You have time to plan, and I understand that there are loans and grants you might be able to use to fund your journey.

I am here to support you in friendship dnd live, always.
XOXO
OP

jumpintheline · 18/01/2025 12:58

This is crazy! How do you know her?

My DH and I went through IVF. We used some savings but also took out a loan which we have nearly paid off. We wouldn’t have asked family, let alone friends for the money. And my parents have cash to spare!

Nazzywish · 18/01/2025 12:56

MrsDefrost · 18/01/2025 12:10

Don't have a go at Op. Not fair or kind.

Not trying to have a go just giving a direct reply re why she hasn't put in boundries- is there a history in the friendship re taking of her etc.

GRCP · 18/01/2025 12:56

I'd be tempted to say sorry I can't help - I'm actually completely broke since my bereavement. Actually, I was hoping you would help me with £5k I need, and seeing as you have savings...

See how cheeky she finds it.

ABunchOfBadBitches · 18/01/2025 12:51

She’s mad. Make sure you make it very clear that it’s a no from the very beginning OP!

LegoBingo · 18/01/2025 12:51

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 18/01/2025 11:11

Dear Cheeky,
I am very happy for you that you can afford this treatment. However I am not now nor ever will be in a position to help you financially. I hope that makes things clear

This. Absolutely this. She's a right sort.

CactusSammy · 18/01/2025 12:50

She's going to ask you for money again at some point, absolutely.

I would nip that in the bud right now, and reply to her text saying that after all you have been through in the last couple of years, you are not, and will not be in the future, in a position to give her any money.

Look after yourself op x

poemsandwine · 18/01/2025 12:48

Ecclesfreckles · 18/01/2025 12:44

Her message reads that she would ask you again to fund her ivf.

This person is not a friend, but a cheeky f**er. I'm not one to cut friends out easily buy my god, I would not want someone like this in my life. To take your grief and loss and turn it into an opportunity for herself, is callous, entitled and selfish. She may have been a good friend before but you can see her true colours in times of crisis and also as her life turns out differently to yours.

I would actually be honest and tell her how inappropriate her request is, and then just ignore her and cut her out of your life. When people show you who they are, believe them, and don't let past history colour judgement on who she is now.

All of this.

Starsandall · 18/01/2025 12:45

In asking you she was completely thinking of herself without understanding what you have been through. She has savings or could get a bank loan herself I would tell her that! Your money is for your future not hers.

VonHally · 18/01/2025 12:45

It's easy, if she approaches you again, say you'll pay for a psychiatric evaluation and a therapy session as she is coming across as quite unhinged.

Anyway, if you maintain the friendship, just forget about the IVF issue. Drop into the conversation every now and then as to how awful it has been that estate taxes were taken in both UK and US (or wherever) and you have been left with very little at the end of the day. Then ask her for something to tide you over. Hmmm.

Or you could say that the estate was left in trust and you cannot access it unless it is verifiably for your own use and the trustees will require proof of that and will pay for those things on your behalf. So nothing can go to her.

I wouldn't get mad I'd just ignore TBH.

MummyJ36 · 18/01/2025 12:44

NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/01/2025 12:30

Part of me thinks sending her 'Where would I get this money from?' and waiting for her to respond and actually put it into words would result in a suitably cathartic experience. 'But I don't earn that sort of money, so where would I get it from?'... 'You want MY dead fiance to pay for YOU to have a baby?'.

But it might be better for you emotionally to message (when she remembers you exist again) with 'Don't ever contact me again'.

I agree with this! Get her to say where she thinks this money is coming from. Either her or block her. She’s absolutely shameless.

Ecclesfreckles · 18/01/2025 12:44

Her message reads that she would ask you again to fund her ivf.

This person is not a friend, but a cheeky f**er. I'm not one to cut friends out easily buy my god, I would not want someone like this in my life. To take your grief and loss and turn it into an opportunity for herself, is callous, entitled and selfish. She may have been a good friend before but you can see her true colours in times of crisis and also as her life turns out differently to yours.

I would actually be honest and tell her how inappropriate her request is, and then just ignore her and cut her out of your life. When people show you who they are, believe them, and don't let past history colour judgement on who she is now.

poemsandwine · 18/01/2025 12:42

She texted me last night saying: "Don't worry about it. I'm taking the money out of my savings. But IVF might be a different story, so let's just wait and see."

I'd take a massive step back from this woman. Unbelievable.

IVFmumoftwo · 18/01/2025 12:42

adviceneeded1990 · 18/01/2025 12:26

Not sure I get the logic of this. Lots of people can afford to raise a child month to month but don’t have £5-10k in one go for IVF. That said the OPs friend was cheeky to ask when she has savings!

I agree. I am saving £3k for a frozen cycle which is a real slog to save for but the actual child is more affordable!

Butchyrestingface · 18/01/2025 12:40

She texted me last night saying: "Don't worry about it. I'm taking the money out of my savings. But IVF might be a different story, so let's just wait and see."

She must keep the local B&Q busy with all the oil she buys to lubricate her brass neck.

poemsandwine · 18/01/2025 12:39

Well, she's as unreasonable as they come. How utterly bizarre. I'm sorry for your loss and grief.

oldernotwiserffs · 18/01/2025 12:39

This is absolute madness. I cannot believe the audacity of her!

YourHappyJadeEagle · 18/01/2025 12:38

I’m sorry for your loss. And 2 years is no time in terms of grieving.
I think you’re right, your friend thought you’d come into some money, are making mega money so she’d tap you for money.
A previous thread gave a great response to people “ let me know how you get on with that” or you could use “ wish you luck with that”
As far as money goes, don’t get involved. Ignore any requests for loans, gifts etc.

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