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To be glad they are upping efforts to find this mother

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AtlasPine · 18/01/2025 08:01

£20,000 offered in search for parents of three abandoned babies https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg00m1mv3eo

It seems quite likely to me that she is in a position of vulnerability and in need of a lot of help. For three pregnancies with no ensuing baby to go unnoticed by everyone around her suggests she may be held against her will. Also, they need to be able to get the third baby into an adoption situation asap to give her as much security as possible. Really hope someone comes forward - perhaps the reward will help.

A dark blue reusable Boots carrier bag, with the Boots logo written on it in white lettering, lies on the concrete next to some dried grass and foliage

£20,000 reward offered as police search for parents of three abandoned babies

Police appeal for information relating to three babies abandoned by the same parents shortly after birth in east London. A reward of £20,000 is also being offered by Crimestoppers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg00m1mv3eo

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MamaLenny · 15/05/2025 21:44

This story has disturbed me for a while. I remember one of the babies was initially named Elsa because she was freezing cold when found, don't understand why anyone thought that would be a nice name to give her.

Supersimkin7 · 15/05/2025 21:40

Incest? LD? Alcohol? More likely than Fritzl.

No info on whether the babies were born withdrawing from drugs or whether they’re NT.

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:38

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:36

All three babies have the same mother and father.

And whoever leaves the baby is careful to avoid being seen and CCTV.

Thanks. I did not know that. But I will say again - if you are holding the mother hostage, why would you take the babies out to dispose of them?

It is so horrific. And it makes so little sense.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:36

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:31

Oh come on. If you are imprisoning a woman, do you go out and abandon your babies in public places?

Do we even know if all the babies have the same father?

I am guessing that the mother has SEN issues, and keeps getting pregnant without being able to deal with it.

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All three babies have the same mother and father.

And whoever leaves the baby is careful to avoid being seen and CCTV.

CapitalAtRisk · 15/05/2025 21:31

Oh come on. If you are imprisoning a woman, do you go out and abandon your babies in public places?

Do we even know if all the babies have the same father?

I am guessing that the mother has SEN issues, and keeps getting pregnant without being able to deal with it.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:27

JSMill · 15/05/2025 21:21

I don’t think it’s difficult. My ds got a kit from Costco a couple of years ago which showed the different ethnic background in his DNA. It was pretty much what you would expect knowing the family history but threw in a 1% Somali we didn’t know about! I am sure the police could access more expensive and accurate tests.

I don’t really see how it would assist in the search.

JSMill · 15/05/2025 21:21

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:00

They shared their photos so the children are black. But without knowing the parents their ethnicity is unknown.

I don’t think it’s difficult. My ds got a kit from Costco a couple of years ago which showed the different ethnic background in his DNA. It was pretty much what you would expect knowing the family history but threw in a 1% Somali we didn’t know about! I am sure the police could access more expensive and accurate tests.

Callie247 · 15/05/2025 21:17

I actually walked along the Greenway a couple of weeks before the last baby was found. It's a fairly busy area. Even after dark the track itself is well used.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:14

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 21:12

@JHoundI have presumed the father is abusive in some way so I’d guess he’s doing nothing to help, whether he knows about the babies or not. And easily believable that a woman can be pregnant and one one else know. Many women live isolated or restricted lives.
None of us can really know or understand what awful circumstances another person is in.

I genuinely don’t think it’s possible the father does not know. Three kids across multiple years?

Nope.

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 21:12

@JHoundI have presumed the father is abusive in some way so I’d guess he’s doing nothing to help, whether he knows about the babies or not. And easily believable that a woman can be pregnant and one one else know. Many women live isolated or restricted lives.
None of us can really know or understand what awful circumstances another person is in.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:04

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 20:18

I live very local to this case. I’m pleased it’s picking up wider attention.
It has been shared before that the babies are black, but as far as I know, no more specific than that.
I have also read that the siblings, all three, are fostered separately but the older two were having contact with each other. This was because they were fostered before it was known they were siblings.
Also from bits and pieces I’ve read previously, and putting two and two together, I believe it’s strongly suspected that it is the mother leaving the babies, so that leads me to think she is giving birth out of the home, leaving the babies and going off. The police being interviewed on this case today talked about a comparison to women who give birth in war zones and how that gives them the adrenaline to be able to walk away to safety to give birth.
This poor mother is clearly in a desperate and probably dangerous situation. I hope they find her soon for her own sake.

They apparently have the same mother and father though so if it is the mother what is rhe father doing?

And surely people would notice three pregnancies but never a baby to show for it?

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:02

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 15/05/2025 09:08

This story is back in the headlines - police say they've narrowed the area of the search to 400 dwellings. I wonder if this announcement could put the woman at heightened risk.

Terrible woman-blaming headline in the DM:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14714245/Hunt-mother-abandoned-three-babies-London.html#

It’s the Daily Heil. I would expect nothing less.

JHound · 15/05/2025 21:00

Ponoka7 · 18/01/2025 08:08

I don't understand why their ethnic background isn't being publicised. The child's adoption should be a priority.

They shared their photos so the children are black. But without knowing the parents their ethnicity is unknown.

JHound · 15/05/2025 20:59

I am very scared it’s a Josef Fritzl type situation with the unfortunate mother restrained somewhere.

arcticpandas · 15/05/2025 20:44

Ponoka7 · 18/01/2025 08:08

I don't understand why their ethnic background isn't being publicised. The child's adoption should be a priority.

They look very Black to me so African. I don't know if you can determine country though, I don't think so?

Libby360 · 15/05/2025 20:33

This was a well thought out thing where someone made sure the babies were abandoned somewhere where they themselves couldn't be traced on CCTV. I'm worried too that the father is carefully abandoning the babies and there is something terribly wrong going on with the mum.

OperationalSupport · 15/05/2025 20:19

What have benefits got to do with anything?
This woman appears to have had no prenatal care or medical attention over (at least) 3 pregnancies. I fear that she is in a terrible situation, and hope that the recent efforts to find her able her to get to a safe place.

paranoiaofpufflings · 15/05/2025 20:18

I live very local to this case. I’m pleased it’s picking up wider attention.
It has been shared before that the babies are black, but as far as I know, no more specific than that.
I have also read that the siblings, all three, are fostered separately but the older two were having contact with each other. This was because they were fostered before it was known they were siblings.
Also from bits and pieces I’ve read previously, and putting two and two together, I believe it’s strongly suspected that it is the mother leaving the babies, so that leads me to think she is giving birth out of the home, leaving the babies and going off. The police being interviewed on this case today talked about a comparison to women who give birth in war zones and how that gives them the adrenaline to be able to walk away to safety to give birth.
This poor mother is clearly in a desperate and probably dangerous situation. I hope they find her soon for her own sake.

BloodandGlitter · 15/05/2025 20:17

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Why are you bringing benefits into this? Did you mean to imply that only people claiming benefits are capable of abandoning a child?

GeorgianaM · 15/05/2025 20:14

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deeahgwitch · 15/05/2025 19:58

I too worry @theilltemperedqueenofspacetime
that the mother will now be at heightened risk.
Heartbreaking.

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 15/05/2025 09:08

This story is back in the headlines - police say they've narrowed the area of the search to 400 dwellings. I wonder if this announcement could put the woman at heightened risk.

Terrible woman-blaming headline in the DM:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14714245/Hunt-mother-abandoned-three-babies-London.html#

kellysjowls · 19/01/2025 14:24

The issue is if the father of the babies who is very likely holding the mother captive feels the police are getting closer, who knows what he may do.
Even if the police can't find him, what happens to the next baby? He may decide another abandoned baby isn't worth the risk of being caught and then there's a real danger of harm coming to the next new born Sad
I pray the mother is found quickly, the police hopefully do know the specific ethnicity (even if they don't release that info to the armchair detectives/true crime podcasters) and hopefully she'll be found soon. They need to up their game and find her. Presumably she's been trafficked and existing in god knows what conditions

Butchyrestingface · 18/01/2025 14:06

Could be a Joseph Fritzl type situation. Just awful. Hope the babies are being well taken care of.