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How to make my peace with our lifestyle

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Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 07:58

Firstly, I know that this is a very first-world problem that I shouldn't be whining about. I'm sorry.

DH and I have very different approaches to consumption and finances. He loves nothing more than the buzz of buying and gifting, lavish meals and treats. The bank to be engaged with only on the second warning. I like the odd treat, the odd lavish meal, but mostly I like the idea of only buying what we need, make do and mend etc. I like to eat healthily, pay bills on time etc etc. All very boring.

Until now, we have never found ourselves in significant financial difficulty.

Which means that I have to let go of the idea that my approach is better than his.The fact that he took the children out shopping a few days after Christmas and got them both smartwatches? The fact that he buys expensive clothes and shoes online, they don't fit, and then he doesn't return them but leaves them laying around? His choice.

Me panicking because we have a big bill coming up and not entirely sure how we'll pay it? Me despairing at the carbon footprint of our family and my children’s materialism? Me wanting to save money for big bills or a rainy day? My choice.

What do I do?

And yes I have posted about this before. I have asked for help to change things. I'm now asking for help to accept them.

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dayslikethese1 · 18/01/2025 08:58

Doesn't he care that there'll be no spare money to help your kids at uni, with a deposit later etc.? If you're good earners this would be a possibility if he didn't fritter it all away. And what about retirement?

FoxInTheForest · 18/01/2025 08:57

Split leftover money (after bills, mortgage, food, childrens necessary clothes and clubs etc).
Then you both have the same amount for either spending or saving

DelilahA · 18/01/2025 08:57

Maybe you could go on a small campaign to be more ecologically aware as a household in 2025? You could gamify it - see who can make the biggest reduction in their carbon footprint.

My dh buys lots of pointless crap - not expensive, just unnecessary replacements for things we already have that are perfectly fine (in my opinion). But we have gradually found a way of gently cross-checking purchases with each other. He will have an occasional splurge (at Christmas) and he also does this thing of buying the wrong size, promising to return and then just taking it to the charity section at the dump. it is so annoying.

you can also create pressure from below via the kids. Talk to them about plastic and other pollution, palm oil, fast fashion, the billions of tons of waste and the fact our planet is dying. My dd has become a big fan of Vinted - she almost fainted when she went in a Hollister store after Covid and saw the “real” price of the clothes she wears. Teach your kids to budget and show them how far money goes … show them how much a house costs and work out how much they’d need to earn to have car, house etc

zzplex · 18/01/2025 08:56

I don't know how people are interpreting the voting options - I voted YABU because I think OP is unreasonable in wanting to accept her current situation. Which other posters seem to agree with but that's not reflected in the poll.

TiramisuThief · 18/01/2025 08:56

I really wouldn't like this either.

I do think it would be reasonable, if not fair to insist that a portion of yours and his wages goes into a long term savings/ investment vehicle and that IT IS NOT TOUCHED.

You're facing a really precarious retirement. That would worry me deeply.

It would also worry me that he is spending money that could go to your children for their future - house deposits etc.

LameBorzoi · 18/01/2025 08:54

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:11

This is what I'm thinking... I'll figure out the monthly expenses, weight it according to our salaries (he's the high earner) and then we put it in at the beginning of the month. Then he can spend his leftovers and I can save mine.

Edited

I had a family member who did this. Of course, he then ran off with another woman, and financial resources were split, after all her scrimping and saving.

FarmGirl78 · 18/01/2025 08:54

Like a previous poster I too think it's odd that you've labelled your want of security and having funds to pay next month's big bill as 'boring'. That's not boring, that's sensible, practical and very very normal.

If you're each giving a portion of your wages at the start of month to pay bills and essentials, and then he fritters away the rest so has nothing to save at the end of the month then why not up the essential amount each of you pays to include a chunk for saving? So that's being ring fenced at the start of month?

Maybe he feels it's nice to spend now on gubbins as it's for the children and he wants them to have it all. Could you pursuade him to save on the basis it'll be there for use in the futures or for a big purchase or family holiday etc....so he sees saving as still benefitting the kids?

AlpacaMittens · 18/01/2025 08:51

"Me despairing at the carbon footprint of our family"

Howling!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Oceangrey · 18/01/2025 08:50

You say you don't have financial difficulties but also that you wouldn't know how to pay a big bill, or deal with a job loss. That seems like a difficulty to me.

I think I'd insist on having an account where enough goes to pay the essentials, another account which is for savings to build up a buffer, and then anything left over goes into an account that you can both use for extras. If there's nothing left in that account, he can't spend it.

My family is very comfortably off and I have a lot of savings and I'd still be very annoyed by money wasted on things not returned to shops! It would feel disrespectful to the hard work we both put into our jobs.

Rachmorr57 · 18/01/2025 08:50

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Octavia64 · 18/01/2025 08:48

There's a spectrum here.

If you have never hit financial difficulty he's clearly not too far towards one end if it as many impulsive spenders do but financial difficulty.

Equally, if one is always saving and never does anything spontaneous or has any treats life can be a bit grey.

Look at your financial position overall. Long term assets - do you both work and have pensions? Are you in industries where if you lost your job you could get another one quite quickly?

Do you have life insurance?

A lot of the things people save for can also be sorted by buying insurance.

Do you rent or own your house? If you own with mortgage then downsizing/moving to a cheaper area can be an option in cases of financial difficulties.

The standard advice is to have about six months worth of normal spending in savings to give a cushion in case of job loss etc.

There's a balance here. If you own your own home, both have pensions and work in stable industries where you would get another job fairly easily then getting the kids smart watches after Christmas is neither here nor there.

If you are renting, on one income and that's in an insecure Industry I'd be a lot more wirried.

Pinkissmart · 18/01/2025 08:48

Approach to finances is a big, foundational issue. I wouldn’t like it.
I think it sounds like your husband has some deep issues around money. Is he ok with eroding the security of your family ?

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:47

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We don't have financial problems though. We're way more precarious than we should be, given our income, but we're okay.

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DustyLee123 · 18/01/2025 08:47

This issue is causing resentment, and you never get over that, it will eat away at you. But it won’t bother him.

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Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:45

TheFlis · 18/01/2025 08:40

She also said they have a big bill
coming and she doesn’t know how they will pay it, so there is trouble on the horizon.

But the point is, we will pay it. I'll dig into my savings, he'll go over his overdraft, we'll have a tight month or two and then it'll be done. I'd rather save beforehand than incur the stress and (in his case) fees of paying the way we do.

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Shoxfordian · 18/01/2025 08:43

It sounds like you're not really compatible in your approach to money or life. Have you always felt like this? Maybe some counselling would help

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:42

pointswinprizes · 18/01/2025 08:29

Is it actually causing a problem though? Like debt or not enough money for what is needed. Or is it just that it annoys you because it isn’t sensible?

It's not causing a problem as such... we need to invest more in the house to keep it in good condition, like repoint the walls, and we keep putting it off as we don't have the money. It'll cause a problem eventually.

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TheFlis · 18/01/2025 08:40

User09678 · 18/01/2025 08:15

I thought the OP says they don't have any financial difficulty

She also said they have a big bill
coming and she doesn’t know how they will pay it, so there is trouble on the horizon.

Cantbelieveit888 · 18/01/2025 08:39

How much do you guys earn and how much are your rough outgoings. Setting out the facts will let me understand if your feelings of acceptance should be the way to go?

Winterskyfall · 18/01/2025 08:32

Honestly that would stress me out a lot. I would request that a certain percentage of earnings gets saved as it comes in to an account he can't access and then let him know he is can go on spending sprees with the rest without me complaining about it. But my percentage would be pretty high. I heard something on a podcast this morning that said something like people who only plan ahead to the weekend spend a lot more than people who plan ahead by ten years. Maybe get a financial advisor to advise you both on the future, see if that will help change his perspective.

pointswinprizes · 18/01/2025 08:29

Is it actually causing a problem though? Like debt or not enough money for what is needed. Or is it just that it annoys you because it isn’t sensible?

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:27

zzplex · 18/01/2025 08:23

What do you mean by "keep us on track"? I assume that means he's not getting into debt, but is he leaving the family with near zero left over at the end of the month?

Do you have family savings, eg 6 months' worth of outgoings? Does he contribute? Because if your definition of "on track" is no debt but also no savings because of his spending, then that isn't acceptable.

We have few savings. We have our own bank accounts into which our salaries are paid and certain pre-agreed outgoings for each of us, then a joint account for other expenses. I save a bit each month but often need to use it to plug the shortfall or pay emergency bills (car, vet etc)

Ideally we'd have a year's mortgage set aside and some extra on top of that.

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Completelyjo · 18/01/2025 08:26

You need to sit down and agree a budget together. Figure out what gets spent on all the essentials each month, then what are joint wants, what is a reasonable amount to spend on the discretionary category balanced with what is a reasonable amount to spend.
Then he if wants to buy something it comes from the X amount you both have and when it runs out for the month it’s gone until the next.

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:24

AylesBuck · 18/01/2025 08:20

Similar situation here.
Husband eventually realised that having some savings is nice.
I relaxed a bit even if most of my stuff comes from charity/Vinted still.
Did you try and define a family budget? What does he say? Mine, at first, would run the moment I said “Excel spreadsheet”, still don’t like it but at least he now listens.

This is the thing, I do think he would enjoy saving if he got in the habit!

Maybe I just need to force it on him, a montly finance chat and bank deposit. It won't take away the buying of crap but maybe alleviate some issues.

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