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How to make my peace with our lifestyle

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Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 07:58

Firstly, I know that this is a very first-world problem that I shouldn't be whining about. I'm sorry.

DH and I have very different approaches to consumption and finances. He loves nothing more than the buzz of buying and gifting, lavish meals and treats. The bank to be engaged with only on the second warning. I like the odd treat, the odd lavish meal, but mostly I like the idea of only buying what we need, make do and mend etc. I like to eat healthily, pay bills on time etc etc. All very boring.

Until now, we have never found ourselves in significant financial difficulty.

Which means that I have to let go of the idea that my approach is better than his.The fact that he took the children out shopping a few days after Christmas and got them both smartwatches? The fact that he buys expensive clothes and shoes online, they don't fit, and then he doesn't return them but leaves them laying around? His choice.

Me panicking because we have a big bill coming up and not entirely sure how we'll pay it? Me despairing at the carbon footprint of our family and my children’s materialism? Me wanting to save money for big bills or a rainy day? My choice.

What do I do?

And yes I have posted about this before. I have asked for help to change things. I'm now asking for help to accept them.

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Overthebs · 20/01/2025 06:18

Hello,

Me and husband are both sh*t with money so I understand his lifestyle, DH also has adhd annd would spend our last pound on crap if he could aha, I’m not quite thah level but I enjoy a good indulge. We find that transparency and accountability are the only thing that help keep us both on track.
I think whilst you accept the way he is doesn’t mean you can’t implement some changes which helps you all out, for example open conversation about how you both approach money differently, and explaining to him why you think it’s important to save.
We have ‘spends’ each month which is in our seperate person accounts, maybe you could budget your spends and then spends for your children’s things such as clothing, meals out etc.. everything else gets split between bills and savings (recommend an ISA he can’t get it out of easily) might be a good deterrent when he feels the need to overindulge!

shehasglasses48 · 19/01/2025 21:37

Does your income match is sending? X

Angelil · 19/01/2025 20:53

In the short term, start chucking his stuff on Vinted.

Pippyls67 · 19/01/2025 20:36

I couldn’t live with that. You’re a bloody saint to put up with it. Just give yourself lots of love and have lots of you time to recharge from the stress of it all. Make sure you do lots of whatever the stuff is that makes you happy. If he complains about it tell him why. It’s just maintaining your mental health.

Kag13 · 19/01/2025 19:44

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 09:25

This is brilliant... i would love to have a set-up like this and will suggest it to my husband. Thanks very much @3LemonsAndLime

I set up the same system after I suddenly lost my job about 30 years ago. (Company went bust- I was made redundant) In addition to those accounts I have one for ‘cars’ - £150 a month for two cars - insurance, MOT, tax, servicing and maintenance, new tyres etc all come out of that.
also ‘xmas and birthdays’. £150 a month for a family of 4 is ample - we could probably manage on less.
after a year on this system you will never worry about regular big bills or unexpected expenses again. Also you will never pay fees or interest on paying monthly.

Both our kids follow this system. My son says it was the best advice I ever gave him. They can spoil themselves with treats how they like or take holidays and know the basics are covered.

coffeeAndasandwich · 19/01/2025 19:37

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:11

This is what I'm thinking... I'll figure out the monthly expenses, weight it according to our salaries (he's the high earner) and then we put it in at the beginning of the month. Then he can spend his leftovers and I can save mine.

Edited

bingo, girl; this is how we always did it and thanks God he did not want shared banking, because now when I work, save it all to my name

coffeeAndasandwich · 19/01/2025 19:34

Depends who is the higher earner. You have separate finances? He has to take the mortgage and bills on his name only and pay them first and then have his fun money. You have to save all your salary because at the minute you are supporting his unhealthy lifestyle. Do you love him enough to stay

Toptops · 19/01/2025 19:29

Hello OP.
My DP and I also have different approaches to spending. Not radically different but he is more a spender and I more a saver.
Ages ago, we separated the household/bills/food account and we both pay into that equally. I save a proportion of what is left in my account and he does too, a bit, but feels anxious about money and poor.
I'm sorry that he feels that way because we certainly aren't poor but at least I am not impacted by his spending choices.
Also, since I do the food shopping, we are not wasting money on silly stuff. We have a shopping list on the fridge door and we both add to it depending on what we are planning to cook. Anything else, we'll buy ourselves.
Works well.

Sometimesright · 19/01/2025 19:18

Iamblossom · 18/01/2025 08:02

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking for advice about but it strikes me that there is a wild disparity between your approaches to finances but his is irresponsible and yours is not. Which means you shoulder the burden of managing your family finances and he gets to not care.

Why should you have to accept that and make peace with it? It's unequal and unfair. You should be managing your family finances together.

I manage our finances but I don’t hide anything. I love to save for things and I like the credit card paid in full monthly. But that’s me. I grew up without a pot to Pee in basically and I never want to be in that position again. My husband doesn’t care what I spend money on providing he gets to have the odd night out or weekend away. So it’s a win win far as I’m concerned. He can look when ever he wants and he does have access to the accounts in case I drop dead. But it has suited us for 40 years so we won’t change it anytime soon.

Julietta05 · 19/01/2025 18:31

My advice wpuld be to read a book ' psychology of money'. Attitude to money is significant aspect of our life and transpires to other aspects of it. It is crucial in any relationships otherwise causes tensions, stress... the author of the book had a podcast with steve barlett, it maybe easier to listen to it.

KatyaKat · 18/01/2025 23:23

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 09:25

This is brilliant... i would love to have a set-up like this and will suggest it to my husband. Thanks very much @3LemonsAndLime

The problem with that setup though @Meetinginthemiddle is that when you're married, you're legally financially tied, as well as any debt associated with your address is also linked to you. So you do need to be a bit careful about him being completely reckless

AlpacaMittens · 18/01/2025 19:25

tothelefttotheleft · 18/01/2025 17:23

What's funny about that?

The exaggeration for one thing. Despairing about your own climate footprint - are you a fucking coal powered factory?

As I've said previously in this thread, if people are GENUINELY THAT terrified about their carbon footprint, then don't have children. It's literally the one thing you can do to really, meaningfully reduce your carbon footprint. It's not obsessing about recycling certain types of plastic. It's not obsessing about letting your car idle for 2 minutes. It's not obsessing about ordering one little thing from temu. It's not obsessing about flying to Spain once a year. It's just not.

tothelefttotheleft · 18/01/2025 17:23

AlpacaMittens · 18/01/2025 08:51

"Me despairing at the carbon footprint of our family"

Howling!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

What's funny about that?

Daddydog · 18/01/2025 14:39

Has your husband shown any other unusual behaviours? There are a few mental health conditions which cause impulse purchasing and overspending. I used to do the exact same thing, chasing a dopamine hit from buying things I didn't need or would never use. I was completely and utterly unaware that my attitude to spending and buying things wasn't normal. I'm talking about going to a mall to buy shoes and coming home without shoes but a £20k watch I've worn 4 times... Then going back to same store and doing the same thing again 3 months later. I'm on medication now and honestly the difference is night and day. Just really wish I got help sooner.

Nsky62 · 18/01/2025 14:35

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:10

The thing is that we haven't been in financial trouble. So while his approach might seem reckless it's just responsible enough to keep us on track. Until we get sick or lose our jobs, of course, but he doesn't like thinking about that.

Not returning stuff, very wasteful in money and clothes

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/01/2025 14:32

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:11

This is what I'm thinking... I'll figure out the monthly expenses, weight it according to our salaries (he's the high earner) and then we put it in at the beginning of the month. Then he can spend his leftovers and I can save mine.

Edited

Yes it think you need to split finances up a little bit more than you are currently

ChateauMargaux · 18/01/2025 14:22

The environmental / consumption conversation is another topic to explore your own thoughts on and then discuss...

HopingForTheBest25 · 18/01/2025 13:25

I really disagree with the notion that because he earns it, it's his money. When you have children and joint commitments, that money belongs to the family, to ensure the stability and security of that family. Only single people with no responsibilities, have the luxury of blowing all their money.

Financial incompatibility is a relationship killer - it pits all the stress on one person to do the right things, make sensible choices and to keep the family safe. It's fundamentally unfair!

There are ways to mitigate the financial risk but the real problem here (apart from the practical) is that he is telling you that ultimately he doesn't care about your mental wellbeing, your stress over finances - he's going to do whatever the fuck he likes and you can just suck it up. That's no way to live in a marriage.

And the truth is that while you might have enough money coming in now, this can change in a heartbeat. My family's income has literally reduced by 4/5 in a month because my Dh has become ill. Luckily I have a bit of money saved and I've got a job (but no job security) but it's been massively stressful.
I'm a cautionary tale to not take continued high income for granted and to have some put by.

And if you're having bills come in that you cannot easily pay, while he's bringing home a decent amount, then he's definitely living beyond his means.

Refusal to change would be a divorce level event for me - I'd rather have less but be secure.

ChateauMargaux · 18/01/2025 13:17

I think it is worth exploring your thoughts about money, your short and long term goals.

We are influenced by our parents attitudes to money and what emotions we experienced about money in our childhood.

It can be helpful to map out what your needs are and what preparation you are doing for your future.

It is also helpful to have conversations with your partner. We go through ups and downs, and it can help to revisit saving and spending habits regularly.

StormingNorman · 18/01/2025 13:13

Meetinginthemiddle · 18/01/2025 08:42

It's not causing a problem as such... we need to invest more in the house to keep it in good condition, like repoint the walls, and we keep putting it off as we don't have the money. It'll cause a problem eventually.

Add house repairs/maintenance and savings into your monthly household expenses that go into your joint account.

justasking111 · 18/01/2025 12:53

MillyVannily · 18/01/2025 12:52

I have been with my partner 20+ years. My money is my money and his money is his. He works 80+ hours a week so he deserves what he earns. It would be incredibly selfish of me to declare his income as family money. But that's just how I think. I accept some women rely on their husbands money as family money and that's fine for sure.

Marriage to me doesn't mean shared money, it means shared responsibility and respect.

So who pays all the bills?

MillyVannily · 18/01/2025 12:52

JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 18/01/2025 09:22

Maybe I've been married for way too long but just because he earns more doesn't mean it's his money! It's all family money and should all be in the family pot.
I earn more than DH but everything is shared, and we each have the same spending money for ourselves.... to spend how we wish.

I have been with my partner 20+ years. My money is my money and his money is his. He works 80+ hours a week so he deserves what he earns. It would be incredibly selfish of me to declare his income as family money. But that's just how I think. I accept some women rely on their husbands money as family money and that's fine for sure.

Marriage to me doesn't mean shared money, it means shared responsibility and respect.

12purplepencils · 18/01/2025 12:48

justasking111 · 18/01/2025 11:10

My husband tracking our Octopus account on the other hand is a pain. We had guests at Christmas so more heating, hot water. He moaned about that 😁

I love watching my octopus account usage 🤣

User09678 · 18/01/2025 12:39

User09678 · 18/01/2025 08:02

Sounds so hard for you

Sorry. I want to apologise for this post. I was in a grumpy morning mood as read it as "no matter how recklessly my partner spends his money we are so rich with our unlimited supply that there are no consequences to him not doing what I want him to do". I've had my two coffees and I'm wise awake now and that's obviously not what's you meant.

Blondiebeachbabe · 18/01/2025 11:56

My DH is like this too. Never worries about big splurges. Buys things he already has (!) just a slightly different colour - even though it's an expensive item. The answer is separate finances for us. He is my 2nd DH, and we do not share children, which makes that easier. Also the house is mine.

The thing is, he never has much in savings, whereas I do. This means that I end up paying for a lot of extra stuff like meals out, because I know I have a lot of savings and he doesn't. It doesn't bother me overly, as he does some work for me in my business, so I figure it's payback for that in my head.

I really understand your frustrations though. At one point he had packages arriving almost every day, and I felt like I could burst into tears. It's not just the spending, it's the thought of where is all of this stuff going to live. I don't want more stuff, I want less.

I love him dearly and don't want to split up, but occasionally fantasise about getting a skip and throwing all his stuff in it 😂

We have just discovered the joys of Vinted, and I am going to encourage him to sell a lot.