To believe my house is haunted?

I believe you OP our house has a presence - walking on the landing at night. Being woken by bottom of bed being shaken. Doors closing for no reason. It does not happen all the time but when it first used to happen I was scared to say the least. It’s nothing bad - but does like to wake you up at night. We have got used to it by now. Sometime’s I smudge the house with sage which helps make the house feel calmer.

You would rather believe it's ghosts than a medical condition?

Does it not make sense to rule out the most likely possibilities first?

You seem to think the suggestion it may be illness is somehow an attack on you. It's not.

It is simply far more likely that there is something medically wrong with you than it is that you are being haunted.

What's wrong with ruling out a medical reason before deciding it's ghosts?

Process of elimination. Rule out the most obvious things first.

I found out that my aunt and uncle instigated a seance in my house at a New Years Eve party as my aunt wanted to contact her dead sister who was quite unhinged and died young from alcoholism. They were too scared to do it in their own house, but for some reason thought they'd take the liberty of doing it in ours! I was a child so asleep in bed at the time, and only found out a few years later when I was 15. My mum didn't want to do it, but felt pushed into it and had had a few drinks so went along with it.

I always remember my childhood being happy and our house having a nice feeling, but when I entered my teen years my dad changed and started drinking heavily and having affairs, and my mum was very unhappy. I've always wondered if it was some kind of malevolent spirit caused by the seance, and still hold bad feeling towards my aunt and uncle today.

MN loves putting people in their place.

unloved in a haunted house. It was terrifying and got worse and worse. Luckily we were renting and we could move but for the 18months we were there it was awful.
believe me I tried to chalk it up to everything and a thing but when you exhaust all rational reasons it’s hard to simply be ok with it

@rainbowstardrops

I get so pissed when I read 'woo' posts and people say ghosts aren't real. Are you mental etc etc. You don't know any more than the next person! Just because you haven't experienced the same things, you simply have no way of knowing for sure.
Even scientists have only scratched the surface of what is possible and what isn't.
Fine if you don't want to believe but it's so incredibly bloody rude to suggest someone should go and get some mental health tests done, or the, 'Of course they don't exist', or 'Get a grip'.

Yes some of the replies on this thread are very rude and totally dismissive of how the OP is feeling. I would bet my hat on it that those jeering at the OP are not sat in a house where strange things are occurring, making them feel unnerved. I suppose anonymous forums bring out the worst in some people.

Anyway - I don’t know if ghosts exist - I suspect not personally but then again I’m not arrogant enough to be absolute about it because I’ve never had the misfortune of experiencing anything out of the ordinary. My parents have however & they are the most down-to-earth, logical and in-woo people I’ve ever known.

Prior to having the kids, they lived in a house which used to be a police station or a police HQ. A long time ago. They said it just had this really unpleasant energy about it & there was one room - a child’s nursery - that they would never use. My mum often said she saw a figure rushing across the balcony above the hallway. She was convinced it was a woman. My dad used to work late shifts to avoid coming back there alone if mum was out for whatever reason. They used to eat out a lot and called time on the place within six months (they were renting at the time.) And this from two people who are self confessed sceptics. But even they couldn’t explain some of the weird stuff that went down in that place.

What's not nice or kind is telling someone who is seeing and hearing things to get a priest or its definitely a ghost instead of telling them to see a doctor to rule out schizophrenia, epilepsy or a brain tumour etc.

When the physical has been safely ruled out then there no harm getting a priest in, burning sage or whatever. But medical attention should come first.

<Sings> All I Want For Christmas Is Woo.

People can believe people any old shit they like, some of the religions out there are insane but up to them. Some people pay bullshitters who claim they can talk to their dead relatives. If you like.

But people have the opposite right not to believe in any of it. But sure, Casper is living in the OP’s house and has nothing better to do with his time than slam doors etc 🤨

Also, OP have a look at Emma Loveheart

homehealer.co.uk

It wasn’t in Wales was it..?

I work with a guy who kept getting slapped around the face when there was no one there. I told him that whoever it was was trying to show their presence,he should go home that night and say out loud that he acknowledges they are there ,he wishes them no ill and he hopes they can coexist peacefully. He looked at me as if I was mad but did it anyway and hasn't been slapped since!

@ShirkingFromHome95 I don't claim to be an expert, but I've spent (far too much) time thinking about this sort of thing. I think most souls either go on to the next stage or are reincarnated, but some pass very suddenly and are confused or have something to resolve. Ants and slugs are simpler and don't stay around. Probably. Although some of the slugs around here have an ethereal look to them.

This killed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But I've always wondered about ghosts. Like, do you get ghosts of ants? Or a ghost slug? Or is only evolved monkeys like us that turn into ghosts?

Tbf, we've got no evidence that the Easter bunny doesn't exist. Things that aren't real don't leave evidence.

OP I was wondering, are you in touch with the previous tenant at all? Could you ask if they've had the same experiences? Fwiw I believe you, I don't understand these "believe nothing" types.

Religion doesn’t deal in evidence or fact. It deals purely in belief and hope.

Stating the soul is a religious concept is not proof it doesn’t exist.

There’s no evidence whatsoever that souls exist, though. ‘Soul’ is a religious concept, like ‘sin’.

But we have no evidence that ‘the soul’ doesn’t survive @Hanto so nobody can say either way with certainty

You should get better-informed scientist friends.

When we die, we know exactly what happens to our energy.

When we’re alive, our body produces energy via biochemical reactions. When we die, these processes stop. Energy is no longer produced, but dissipates as heat into the surroundings. This is how you can estimate time of death based on body temperature. If we cremate that body, it becomes transformed into light, heat, ash, smoke. If that body rots, decomposition releases that energy into other other organisms that feed on it.

You're talking about ‘consciousness’ or ‘soul’. We have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that consciousness, which arises from our biological being, survives the death of that biological being.

Caramac Dh is the same. Very dismissive and totally unbelieving. When we drove away from the house with the banging I said “ok then what on earth was it?”. We both were kept awake by it and searched the house for the source of it. His reply was “Christ knows no explanation except ghosts didn’t want to say at the time so as not to freak you out”.