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To feel a bit like everyone hates me when I'm a British tourist in Europe now

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Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 16:23

I try with the language, I try not to get in people's way, I tip and I don't complain.

But everything still feels much more hostile than it used to.

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BabbleBee · 17/01/2025 17:29

We holiday every year in many campsites across Austria, Germany, Italy and France. I have never been made to feel unwelcome, have always felt supported in my efforts to speak the language of the country I’m in and certainly when I was taken ill in France last year I was very well looked after by everyone who helped me and my family, including members of the local community.

vodkaredbullgirl · 17/01/2025 17:29

zzplex · 17/01/2025 16:31

Didn't someone else post the same topic a few weeks ago?

Ever week there's one.

Lorelielee · 17/01/2025 17:28

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 16:55

Absolutely everyone always knows I'm British before I open my mouth. I look so British I could be the face of the British tourist board (except that it wouldn't be very alluring to visitors)

What do you mean? Do you mean physically or fashion wise? Or something else that you think gives a British vibe?

Overtheatlantic · 17/01/2025 17:28

Try being American. I’ve been mocked and ignored. By Swedes!

BRL2 · 17/01/2025 17:28

Sorry @Partylikeits1985 I completely misread your post!

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KarminaBurana · 17/01/2025 17:25

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 17:23

Not a Brexit thread I doubt it's related. Think it's a general streams of ways thing.

What does that mean? I've never heard that phrase before - "general streams of ways thing"

RobinHood19 · 17/01/2025 17:25

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 17:23

Not a Brexit thread I doubt it's related. Think it's a general streams of ways thing.

You think all Europeans in the countries you mention have a shared, general way of treating the British rudely?

RobinHood19 · 17/01/2025 17:23

Dillydollydingdong · 17/01/2025 16:29

You're taking too much notice of what the newspapers say. And anyway, tourist areas rely and depend on what we spend. If we didn't go there and spend our money, these places wouldn't survive. I was watching a programme the other day about fishermen who were saying now there aren't as many visitors to eat the fish he catches, he can't sell it and his family are suffering.

First of all, thank you for single-handedly saving whole countries by going on a 2-week holiday there every year. That’s definitely the key to our survival, yes.

Secondly, perhaps the fisherman’s family isn’t suffering just because tourists aren’t eating his fish anymore. He’s likely suffering because the local government imports fish from [insert country of choice on the other side of the globe] for a tenth of what it would cost to actually pay him, a local worker.

These countries aren’t seeing a decline in wages etc, due to a decline in tourism. If the governments invested properly and chose to buy produce from local sources, you would not be seeing him in the documentary begging the tourists to come back. It is not as simple as a TV interview seems to portray.

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 17:23

Not a Brexit thread I doubt it's related. Think it's a general streams of ways thing.

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Partylikeits1985 · 17/01/2025 17:21

In the Spanish areas I visit, the British are viewed with pity and bewilderment that we would have done this to ourselves. In the more touristy areas of Spain, so many of the British they meet are the boorish types that you need to get beyond that expectation before they realise they are dealing with a pleasant Brit for a change. As for the French (I was born and brought up there), if you are polite, respect their culture and attempt to speak French they can be delightful but get on the wrong side of them, oh dear.

They sound like fun

ShanghaiDiva · 17/01/2025 17:18

Last year I visited nine European countries and didn’t encounter any hostility. I ordered my museum tickets in Spanish and the museum employee responded in English, but am sure this was done to my decidedly ropey Spanish rather than Hostility towards British tourists.

Sugarfish · 17/01/2025 17:18

I’ve not found this at all and I travel to Europe a lot, including Barcelona a few months ago.

One thing I’ve noticed though is the younger generation seem to prefer you to just speak English to them now. It’s the shared language and most of them are fluent. It’s easier than them trying to understand you, or replying in words you’d understand. Gives them a chance to practice it as well.

Sidebeforeself · 17/01/2025 17:18

Well I was treated rudely by a British restaurant manager in the UK yesterday and I’m white and British so I dont think it’s a conundrum..rude people are just ..er..rude!

User19876536484 · 17/01/2025 17:18

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 17:05

Spain, Portugal, France. Germany doesn't care and I'm sure is the same to everyone. Netherlands more pitying but fair enough.

Not in my experience.

Do people generally like you when you are in the UK?

RobinHood19 · 17/01/2025 17:18

You’ve never lived in Germany if you think there is no racism there…

Partylikeits1985 · 17/01/2025 17:16

BRL2 · 17/01/2025 17:05

Not another Brexit thread… I bet the OP was one of those people who photographed empty supermarket shelves.

The fact that Brexit has not bought about the collapse of society is probably quite disappointing to some.

zerogrey · 17/01/2025 17:14

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Copernicus321 · 17/01/2025 17:14

I think perhaps we are a little more self-conscious now that we've voted for Brexit. Possibly we subconsciously think that because we voted out that somehow we think all europeans are judging us? I spend quite a bit of time in Spain (our daughter is now resident there with her DP and his Spanish family). In the Spanish areas I visit, the British are viewed with pity and bewilderment that we would have done this to ourselves. In the more touristy areas of Spain, so many of the British they meet are the boorish types that you need to get beyond that expectation before they realise they are dealing with a pleasant Brit for a change. As for the French (I was born and brought up there), if you are polite, respect their culture and attempt to speak French they can be delightful but get on the wrong side of them, oh dear. However, this has always been the case and it's not just Brexit.

Upstartled · 17/01/2025 17:13

No, I have only had the same service as usual, and usual levels of friendliness. It seems a bit paranoid to me? Are suffering from an, 'everything about the UK is awful and everybody hates us' confirmation bias that has going around mn since Brexit?

YarkYark · 17/01/2025 17:13

Absolutely untrue in Berlin for the last few days. Lovely people.

cromwell44 · 17/01/2025 17:12

Did you say hola or bonjour to the shopkeeper? Culturally this is a thing in Europe and going directly to the transaction can be interpreted as a bit rude.

Dror · 17/01/2025 17:12

Is British a race?
Do you mean people are treating you hatefully and it's because of your skin, or because of what country they think you're from?

KarminaBurana · 17/01/2025 17:11

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 17:05

Spain, Portugal, France. Germany doesn't care and I'm sure is the same to everyone. Netherlands more pitying but fair enough.

I travel a lot in France and haven't found this at all. Portugal was wonderful, I found and the people without exception were warm and welcoming.
The Netherlands isn't "pitying". It's a fantastic country, and the museums are wonderful and staffed by the most knowledgeable and helpful people. Madrid is a lovely city and the locals really helpful with deciphering menus and giving directions.
Germany does care. They're custodians of a rich history and most welcoming to visitors.

Partylikeits1985 · 17/01/2025 17:09

But everything still feels much more hostile than it used to.

Yes, I’m sure.

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