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To change their surname to mine?

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Timeisaheala · 17/01/2025 08:22

Long story short but without drip feeding, I have 2 children with my ex boyfriend. We never married, we’ve split 5 years ago and in that time he has married the other woman and has 2 children with her. My children have his surname, as does his wife and his two children with her. It hurts me that she shares the same surname as my children but I never will.

aibu to use my surname for my children? For context dad is not in the picture anymore and has very very limited contact.

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JanuaryJasmine · 12/01/2026 13:39

SpeedyMcNobhead · 17/01/2025 12:48

You do not have to change their name legally at this stage. Just use a “known as” name for the GPs and school. When they are 16 change by deed poll and catch everything up then.
I did this with my DD who was born just after the law change in 2003 which meant I couldn’t change it legally without Dickhead’s permission. The only thing she had to put up with was her passport has to be in legal name but she was okay with that. We did deed poll on her 16th birthday and applied for bank accounts, driving license and everything else after with no issues and her latest passport has her new name too.

This is the easiest and simplest way to do it.

this seems like the best option (after asking him first, obviously him agreeing is the easiest option & he might surprise you, he might be fine with it).

Lockdownsceptic · 12/01/2026 12:59

TheWorminLabyrinth · 19/01/2025 03:20

Just change it.

I've never understood this archaic practice of giving children mens' surnames. Why?

Define archaic. It was almost universal until about 30 years ago.

Lockdownsceptic · 12/01/2026 12:56

If your ex doesn’t have parental responsibility then you can do as you like. Personally I wouldn’t be changing it because of how I felt about it. Only change it if it’s something the children themselves would like.

ARichtGoodDram · 14/07/2025 20:41

Timeisaheala · 17/01/2025 15:06

I’ve already socially changed their names as in they use my name themselves and for activities, non legal registrations and things. It’s more just legally I suppose. I definitely wouldn’t want to change my name to his and hers, it’s a small enough community and I think it would make me look silly to be honest given he married her but wouldn’t didn’t marry me

Just be aware that they don't end up with different names on things that need to line up.

My DN had a brief mare when he was scouted for a sport and his club records & registration were in his stepdads name whereas his birth certificate and ID were in his birth name.

If you take it to court they'd likely allow you to double barrel the surnames.

CantHoldMeDown · 14/07/2025 17:56

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Fedupmumofadultsons · 14/07/2025 17:53

Ottersmith · 17/01/2025 09:18

Why are you even asking? Change change change.shouldnt have had his name in the first place.

That's really a bit harsh lots of unmarried folk give children there fathers name without problems. And if married it's generally there fathers family name. came from olden times if you didn't have your fathers name you generally got nothing .so done to protect family line .

ObliviousCoalmine · 19/01/2025 07:26

@Reugny My name first, hyphenated.

InkHeart2024 · 19/01/2025 05:46

TheWorminLabyrinth · 19/01/2025 03:21

Me either. I'll never get it. Why?! <insert anecdote about how his name is easier to spell>

Oh but his name is so interesting and mine is so boring! His name just sounds better with my first name! 🙄

TheWorminLabyrinth · 19/01/2025 03:21

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Me either. I'll never get it. Why?! <insert anecdote about how his name is easier to spell>

TheWorminLabyrinth · 19/01/2025 03:20

Just change it.

I've never understood this archaic practice of giving children mens' surnames. Why?

HollyKnight · 19/01/2025 03:06

I think in your position I would change my surname to theirs. You would just be taking your children's name, not your ex's.

Willyoujustbequiet · 19/01/2025 03:02

Ohnonotmeagain · 17/01/2025 18:24

changing names won’t avoid it though.

people with different surnames experience what you have, but so do people with the same name. Like I said friends with same name were nearly prevented from boarding as they couldn’t provide birth certificates and letter of consent as they’d assumed it was only for those with different names.

It is more likely you were stopped as a single adult with children. Parental abduction is increasingly common so checks are made to ensure you’re not taking the child without the other parent’s consent. It’s not a name thing.

One of the reasons to get a CAO on divorce then you don't need their consent.

Willyoujustbequiet · 19/01/2025 03:00

ReachingOut8 · 17/01/2025 16:10

You need his permission my daughter has mine and her father’s surname and I can’t even get rid of his despite having mine too! Need permission. He would never give it so stuck with it till 16.

Family court will happily add yours. It's a common application.

Willyoujustbequiet · 19/01/2025 02:58

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This

Kids should always have their mother's name given the vast majority of single parents are women doing the vast majority of the work. Far more practical.

JHound · 19/01/2025 02:13

KhakiShaker · 17/01/2025 15:28

It really does baffle me the amount of women on here who think the ‘right’ thing to do is give the child the mother’s name. Why? The father is an equal parent and if both parents are on the birth certificate then the fair thing to do is double-barrel.

This man clearly isn’t an equal parent.

JHound · 19/01/2025 02:12

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Ok.

NattyBeaker · 17/01/2025 19:15

KhakiShaker · 17/01/2025 15:28

It really does baffle me the amount of women on here who think the ‘right’ thing to do is give the child the mother’s name. Why? The father is an equal parent and if both parents are on the birth certificate then the fair thing to do is double-barrel.

Babies were historically always given their mother's name on birth. It's just that traditionally the mother had already taken the man's name. Somewhere along the line we stopped taking the man's name, but kept giving it to our babies.
In the hospital they are automatically "baby mother's surname" and if you want them to have your husbands name, you need to change it to that. It should become the norm we just give them our name.
In fact men can take our name too. They've had long enough.

Genevieva · 17/01/2025 18:42

Timeisaheala · 17/01/2025 15:06

I’ve already socially changed their names as in they use my name themselves and for activities, non legal registrations and things. It’s more just legally I suppose. I definitely wouldn’t want to change my name to his and hers, it’s a small enough community and I think it would make me look silly to be honest given he married her but wouldn’t didn’t marry me

I would keep doing this for now. Make sure it is the surname they use at school too. Then, when they are both at secondary school, I’d sort out the legal change of name by deed poll so that their passports and exam certificates match their everyday use. That way they are old enough to express an opinion. If it’s what they want, an absent father won’t have much traction.

Ohnonotmeagain · 17/01/2025 18:24

aLittleWhiteHorse · 17/01/2025 18:19

Re the travel with different surnames issue, we have been stopped and questioned quite vigorously several times. Child even commented that that they had travelled alone aged 14 through the same airport the week before and no one batted an eyelid, but travelling with me as a parent with different legal surname raised flags. Understandably looking out for trafficked children but still unpleasant for me as their sole care giver.

Maybe I should have changed my name upon marriage to avoid this but I didn’t want to. ExH had a conniption when I suggested using my surname for our child. Also understandable given convention. He still walked away from us a year after birth on the grounds that he was no longer getting enough attention.

changing names won’t avoid it though.

people with different surnames experience what you have, but so do people with the same name. Like I said friends with same name were nearly prevented from boarding as they couldn’t provide birth certificates and letter of consent as they’d assumed it was only for those with different names.

It is more likely you were stopped as a single adult with children. Parental abduction is increasingly common so checks are made to ensure you’re not taking the child without the other parent’s consent. It’s not a name thing.

aLittleWhiteHorse · 17/01/2025 18:19

Re the travel with different surnames issue, we have been stopped and questioned quite vigorously several times. Child even commented that that they had travelled alone aged 14 through the same airport the week before and no one batted an eyelid, but travelling with me as a parent with different legal surname raised flags. Understandably looking out for trafficked children but still unpleasant for me as their sole care giver.

Maybe I should have changed my name upon marriage to avoid this but I didn’t want to. ExH had a conniption when I suggested using my surname for our child. Also understandable given convention. He still walked away from us a year after birth on the grounds that he was no longer getting enough attention.

ARichtGoodDram · 17/01/2025 16:51

I’ve been stopped more travelling with my younger children - who I share a name with - than I ever was with my older children who don't

It’s simply more common to have questions asked when travelling now. Child safety is taken much more seriously. It’s not about names

SpeedyMcNobhead · 17/01/2025 16:26

I have, travelled with my DH and DC’s. As explained upthread DD had her bio father’s surname on her passport. I was still on my maiden name on my passport and DH and the other DC’s had the same name. DD and I were questioned at the French border coming back home about parentage. So yes it does happen although not often.

ReachingOut8 · 17/01/2025 16:10

You need his permission my daughter has mine and her father’s surname and I can’t even get rid of his despite having mine too! Need permission. He would never give it so stuck with it till 16.

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mothers do have the right to choose their child’s name though.

you can make the case for it being the mothers name all you like, the bottom line is those mothers are choosing to give their children dad’s name.

every woman her could have given their children their name. Nothing stopping them.

so your argument is moot. Until women stop with the name changing and “proud to be a Mrs” stuff.

it seems insane to me that women say having the same name as their children is so important to them, yet they still take on men’s names, give their children different names or whatever.

if having the same name is so important keep your name and give it to your kids. If being married and taking his name is important to you, do that. But have the courage of your convictions and don’t be changing the kids names when you get divorced or dad leaves.